• Re: Who WON??

    From Andeddu@VERT/AMSTRAD to Dumas Walker on Wed Nov 25 10:11:46 2020
    Re: Re: Who WON??
    By: Dumas Walker to ANDEDDU on Tue Nov 24 2020 05:02 pm

    Something I don't think that Europeans realize about the United States is that it, too, has areas that are culturally and at least recent-historically distinct.

    Those distinctions may not necessarly follow state boundaries, but they do follow regional ones. TV and the Internet may have made that less so, but it is so. The only time the US seems to have the same aims is when we are at war with someone. Let too much time without a war pass and we start fighting with each other.


    Yes, I agree that the US is diverse enough and is large enough to from a geographic perspective to produce culturally distinct regions. It's obviously deeper in Europe though as the Slavonic states have their own languages and a completely seperate culture (literature, entertainment, cuisine...etc,) which is no where near as Americanised as our own.

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Andeddu on Wed Nov 25 14:49:16 2020
    Re: Re: Who WON??
    By: Andeddu to Dumas Walker on Wed Nov 25 2020 10:11 am

    obviously deeper in Europe though as the Slavonic states have their own languages and a completely seperate culture (literature, entertainment, cuisine...etc,) which is no where near as Americanised as our own.


    usa has separate cutures. usa was a melting pot.
    a lot of immigrants dont leave behind their culture.

    on my mom's side those fuckers are american gypsies. you wouldnt be understand their language and some of them pretty much exist out of normal society.

    the usa is probably the most diverse country on the planet.
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  • From Andeddu@VERT/AMSTRAD to MRO on Thu Nov 26 11:13:20 2020
    Re: Re: Who WON??
    By: MRO to Andeddu on Wed Nov 25 2020 02:49 pm

    obviously deeper in Europe though as the Slavonic states have their own languages and a completely seperate culture (literature, entertainment, cuisine...etc,) which is no where near as Americanised as our own.

    usa has separate cutures. usa was a melting pot.
    a lot of immigrants dont leave behind their culture.

    on my mom's side those fuckers are american gypsies. you wouldnt be understand their language and some of them pretty much exist out of normal society.

    the usa is probably the most diverse country on the planet.

    I would agree that the USA is the most diverse nation on the planet in relation to being a cultural melting pot. There are not many groups that are not represented in the US populous.

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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to ANDEDDU on Thu Nov 26 09:48:00 2020
    Yes, I agree that the US is diverse enough and is large enough to from a geographic perspective to produce culturally distinct regions. It's obviously deeper in Europe though as the Slavonic states have their own languages and a completely seperate culture (literature, entertainment, cuisine...etc,) which is no where near as Americanised as our own.

    That is true. We only have pockets of distinctions as deep as that,
    and many of them are disappearing/have disappeared in the information age.


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  • From Andeddu@VERT/AMSTRAD to Dumas Walker on Fri Nov 27 15:42:42 2020
    Re: Re: Who WON??
    By: Dumas Walker to ANDEDDU on Thu Nov 26 2020 09:48 am

    That is true. We only have pockets of distinctions as deep as that,
    and many of them are disappearing/have disappeared in the information age.

    We in the UK are much more culturally aligned with our American cousins than we are with Eastern Europeans. I really don't think there's much that seperates us over here than with yourselves.

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Andeddu on Fri Nov 27 16:22:19 2020
    Re: Re: Who WON??
    By: Andeddu to Dumas Walker on Fri Nov 27 2020 03:42 pm

    We in the UK are much more culturally aligned with our American cousins than we are with Eastern Europeans. I really don't think there's much that seperates us over here than with yourselves.


    we arent cousins and we arent that same.
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  • From Andeddu@VERT/AMSTRAD to MRO on Tue Dec 1 01:59:24 2020
    Re: Re: Who WON??
    By: MRO to Andeddu on Fri Nov 27 2020 04:22 pm

    we arent cousins and we arent that same.

    The social kindship between the Americans and the British has existed through most of the duration of US history, and was remarked upon by some of the Founders of the United States soon after the Revolutionary War - particularly the first US Ambassador to the United Kingdom, John Adams.

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Andeddu on Mon Nov 30 22:53:22 2020
    Re: Re: Who WON??
    By: Andeddu to MRO on Tue Dec 01 2020 01:59 am

    Re: Re: Who WON??
    By: MRO to Andeddu on Fri Nov 27 2020 04:22 pm

    we arent cousins and we arent that same.

    The social kindship between the Americans and the British has existed through most of the duration of US history, and was remarked upon by some of the Founders of the United States soon after the Revolutionary War - particularly the first US Ambassador to the United Kingdom, John Adams.


    is that what wikipedia told you
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  • From Gamgee@VERT/PALANT to Andeddu on Tue Dec 1 11:46:00 2020
    Andeddu wrote to MRO <=-

    we arent cousins and we arent that same.

    The social kindship between the Americans and the British has
    existed through most of the duration of US history, and was
    remarked upon by some of the Founders of the United States soon
    after the Revolutionary War - particularly the first US
    Ambassador to the United Kingdom, John Adams.

    Right. Then maybe you'll understand this:

    Bugger off, mate.



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  • From Andeddu@VERT/AMSTRAD to Gamgee on Wed Dec 2 01:55:32 2020
    Re: Re: Who WON??
    By: Gamgee to Andeddu on Tue Dec 01 2020 11:46 am

    Right. Then maybe you'll understand this:

    Bugger off, mate.

    Ohh, here he is in another one of my posts. I have an angry man following me around the internet again...

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  • From HusTler@VERT/HAVENS to Anduddu on Thu Dec 3 07:46:52 2020
    Re: Re: Who WON??
    By: Gamgee to Andeddu on Tue Dec 01 2020 11:46 am

    The social kindship between the Americans and the British has
    existed through most of the duration of US history, and was
    remarked upon by some of the Founders of the United States soon
    after the Revolutionary War - particularly the first US
    Ambassador to the United Kingdom, John Adams.

    The "duration of US history" implies the future. I personally don't like British people and feel no kindship what so ever.

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  • From Andeddu@VERT/AMSTRAD to HusTler on Thu Dec 3 17:58:14 2020
    Re: Re: Who WON??
    By: HusTler to Anduddu on Thu Dec 03 2020 07:46 am

    The "duration of US history" implies the future. I personally don't like British people and feel no kindship what so ever.


    That's you though. Past Presidents and Prime Ministers have spoken of our 'special relationship'... I believe even Trump echoed similar sentiments.

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Andeddu on Thu Dec 3 19:55:54 2020
    Re: Re: Who WON??
    By: Andeddu to HusTler on Thu Dec 03 2020 05:58 pm

    Re: Re: Who WON??
    By: HusTler to Anduddu on Thu Dec 03 2020 07:46 am

    The "duration of US history" implies the future. I personally don't
    like British people and feel no kindship what so ever.


    That's you though. Past Presidents and Prime Ministers have spoken of our 'special relationship'... I believe even Trump echoed similar sentiment

    well the UK is the usa's bitch. so if you want to call it a special relationship, go ahead. more like special as in mentally retarded.
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  • From Dennisk@VERT/EOTLBBS to MRO on Sat Nov 21 13:12:00 2020
    MRO wrote to Andeddu <=-

    Re: Re: Who WON??
    By: Andeddu to HusTler on Thu Dec 03 2020 05:58 pm

    Re: Re: Who WON??
    By: HusTler to Anduddu on Thu Dec 03 2020 07:46 am

    The "duration of US history" implies the future. I personally don't
    like British people and feel no kindship what so ever.


    That's you though. Past Presidents and Prime Ministers have spoken of our 'special relationship'... I believe even Trump echoed similar sentiment

    well the UK is the usa's bitch. so if you want to call it a special relationship, go ahead. more like special as in mentally retarded.

    The UK is just a bitch. Period. Imagine a country run by those shrill Politically Correct, nanny-state loving, admonishing control freak
    teachers, and you have England.



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  • From Andeddu@VERT/AMSTRAD to MRO on Fri Dec 4 08:38:18 2020
    Re: Re: Who WON??
    By: MRO to Andeddu on Thu Dec 03 2020 07:55 pm

    The "duration of US history" implies the future. I personally don't
    like British people and feel no kindship what so ever.


    That's you though. Past Presidents and Prime Ministers have spoken of our 'special relationship'... I believe even Trump echoed similar sentiment

    well the UK is the usa's bitch. so if you want to call it a special relationship, go ahead. more like special as in mentally retarded.

    That's partially true and it's a big criticism I have of the UK's gutless government. Given our history, we should never be kowtowing to the US. Tony Blair, in particular, has a lot to answer for as he was the first PM to show true subservience in the face of international diplomacy.

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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to ANDEDDU on Fri Dec 4 11:31:00 2020
    That's you though. Past Presidents and Prime Ministers have spoken of our 'special relationship'... I believe even Trump echoed similar sentiments.

    I believe you are correct re: Trump.


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  • From Andeddu@VERT/AMSTRAD to Dumas Walker on Sat Dec 5 13:31:44 2020
    Re: US (hearts) UK (or not!)
    By: Dumas Walker to ANDEDDU on Fri Dec 04 2020 11:31 am

    I believe you are correct re: Trump.

    Trump's mother is British which is why he has such a soft spot for my country. When Obama said we'd be at the back of the queue re Brexit, Trump said we'd be at the front.

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Andeddu on Sat Dec 5 17:45:28 2020
    Re: US (hearts) UK (or not!)
    By: Andeddu to Dumas Walker on Sat Dec 05 2020 01:31 pm

    Re: US (hearts) UK (or not!)
    By: Dumas Walker to ANDEDDU on Fri Dec 04 2020 11:31 am

    I believe you are correct re: Trump.

    Trump's mother is British which is why he has such a soft spot for my country. When Obama said we'd be at the back of the queue re Brexit, Trump said we'd be at the front.

    i dont think trump has a soft spot for the uk.
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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to ANDEDDU on Sun Dec 6 09:50:00 2020
    I believe you are correct re: Trump.

    Trump's mother is British which is why he has such a soft spot for my country. >When Obama said we'd be at the back of the queue re Brexit, Trump said we'd be >at the front.

    Winston Churchill's mother was also an American, IIRC.

    Obama was very soft on the EU. They could ask or do what they wanted to
    and he'd go along with it. "Take on a bigger burden re: pollution so that other countries like China can skate a while longer? Sure thing!" It will be interesting to see how our relationship with Britain goes with Biden
    (or Harris) at the helm. I fear that you all might be back at the back of the queue again.


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  • From Andeddu@VERT/AMSTRAD to MRO on Sun Dec 6 16:13:25 2020
    Re: US (hearts) UK (or not!)
    By: MRO to Andeddu on Sat Dec 05 2020 05:45 pm

    i dont think trump has a soft spot for the uk.

    He was very nice to begin with and did gratiate us with compliments, however he has become rather cross with many of our politicans over the last couple of years.

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Andeddu on Sun Dec 6 17:41:25 2020
    Re: US (hearts) UK (or not!)
    By: Andeddu to MRO on Sun Dec 06 2020 04:13 pm

    Re: US (hearts) UK (or not!)
    By: MRO to Andeddu on Sat Dec 05 2020 05:45 pm

    i dont think trump has a soft spot for the uk.

    He was very nice to begin with and did gratiate us with compliments, however he has become rather cross with many of our politicans over the last couple of years.

    here's how trump works.
    he makes friends from enemies.

    he invites them over and they have a great weekend together. this is what everyone says about him. he makes friends with them. when they are friends they are less likely to make shitty comments and do shitty things.

    it's a great tactic regardless of his motives.
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  • From Andeddu@VERT/AMSTRAD to Dumas Walker on Mon Dec 7 12:21:32 2020
    Re: US (hearts) UK (or not!)
    By: Dumas Walker to ANDEDDU on Sun Dec 06 2020 09:50 am

    Winston Churchill's mother was also an American, IIRC.

    Obama was very soft on the EU. They could ask or do what they wanted to
    and he'd go along with it. "Take on a bigger burden re: pollution so that other countries like China can skate a while longer? Sure thing!" It will be interesting to see how our relationship with Britain goes with Biden
    (or Harris) at the helm. I fear that you all might be back at the back of the queue again.

    I would agree however our Conservative politicans were glad Biden won the election. Brexit is a total farce, I am not even convinced it'll happen anymore as there's next to no political will to get it over the line. The politicians we have appear to be pro-EU and the only reason they're carrying out any discussion is due to the will of the people as per the '16 referendum. I think Johnson has more in common with Biden than Trump. All of a sudden he's talking about his Ten Point Plan for a Green Industrial Revolution which is identical to The Green New Deal proposed by Biden and his cohorts. He used to talk like Trump in regards to rebuilding a manufacturing base but it is now all about climate change and sustainable development.

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  • From Andeddu@VERT/AMSTRAD to MRO on Mon Dec 7 12:48:12 2020
    Re: US (hearts) UK (or not!)
    By: MRO to Andeddu on Sun Dec 06 2020 05:41 pm

    here's how trump works.
    he makes friends from enemies.

    he invites them over and they have a great weekend together. this is what everyone says about him. he makes friends with them. when they are friends they are less likely to make shitty comments and do shitty things.

    it's a great tactic regardless of his motives.

    Yeh, he's a schmoozer. He no doubt behaved that way in business. It was nice to see an unorthodox non-establishment figure take the helm for a Presidentical term.

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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to ANDEDDU on Tue Dec 8 11:15:00 2020
    I would agree however our Conservative politicans were glad Biden won the election. Brexit is a total farce, I am not even convinced it'll happen anymor
    as there's next to no political will to get it over the line. The politicians we have appear to be pro-EU and the only reason they're carrying out any discussion is due to the will of the people as per the '16 referendum. I think
    Johnson has more in common with Biden than Trump. All of a sudden he's talking
    about his Ten Point Plan for a Green Industrial Revolution which is identical to The Green New Deal proposed by Biden and his cohorts. He used to talk like Trump in regards to rebuilding a manufacturing base but it is now all about climate change and sustainable development.

    Sounds like you all need to start learning Mandarin like our young people
    do.


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