Hi g00r00,

Would you consider adding support for netmail pings/traces into Mystic?


Jay

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A47 2021/06/07 (Raspberry Pi/32)
* Origin: Northern Realms (77:1/156)

Hi g00r00,

Would you consider adding support for netmail pings/traces into Mystic?

The reason I didn't want to support it in the past was because it means that no user with the handle "Ping" will ever be able
to use Fidonet-style netmail. I felt like it was a pretty poorly thought out idea to respond to "Ping"...

It should have been something like "NetMail Ping Request" or something.

Do you know if its documented somewhere?

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A47 2021/06/14 (Windows/32)
* Origin: Sector 7 | Mystic WHQ (77:1/138)

On 15 Jun 2021, g00r00 said the following...

The reason I didn't want to support it in the past was because it means that no user with the handle "Ping" will ever be able
to use Fidonet-style netmail. I felt like it was a pretty poorly
thought out idea to respond to "Ping"...

That seems reasonable.

If pursued, I wonder if this should be something that could be switched on instead of enabled by default? If enabled a check could be executed to see if a "ping" user already exists on the system, if it doesn't "ping" could then automatically added to trashcan.dat.

Do you know if its documented somewhere?

Looks like it:

http://ftsc.org/docs/fts-5001.006

5.10. Robot flags
-----------------

PING
----

Specified as exactly "PING" with no arguments. Nodes flying this
flag will adhere to the following functionality:

1) PING-function:

If a message destined to "PING" arrives at its final destination
and this final destination flies the "PING"-flag, then the
receiving node will bounce the message back to the original sender
clearly quoting all the original via-lines.

If a message destined to "PING" arrives at its final destination
but this final destination does _not_ fly the "PING"-flag then the
message may be deleted from the inbound-queue without further
follow-up.

2) TRACE-function:

If a message destined to "PING" arrives at a node which flies the
PING-flag but is merely passing-through to another destination
then the in-transit node will notify the sender of this occurrence
and will forward the original mail unaltered towards its final
destination.

WARNING: the sender's name (in either direction) must *NEVER* be
"PING".


That last line would seem to justify your concerns.


Jay

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A47 2021/06/07 (Raspberry Pi/32)
* Origin: Northern Realms (77:1/156)

If pursued, I wonder if this should be something that could be switched
on instead of enabled by default? If enabled a check could be executed
to see if a "ping" user already exists on the system, if it doesn't
"ping" could then automatically added to trashcan.dat.

I was thinking more about this and I am going to put it on the TO DO list. I don't know when I might get around to it to be honest. It will probably depend on the amount of work it might take to get it working. If its not too in-depth of a code revamp then I will probably add it in the next time I go on a massive coding binge, otherwise it could be a bit longer.

Thanks for posting the specs I appreciate it. I've exported them to save for a rainy day to see what I can do!

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A47 2021/06/14 (Windows/32)
* Origin: Sector 7 | Mystic WHQ (77:1/138)

http://ftsc.org/docs/fts-5001.006

PING
----

You may be interested in this little nugget that will be in the next prealpha:

+ MUTIL mail processor now supports Netmail PING and pass-through tracing. If
a netmail addressed to PING is sent to the system or passes through the
system, Mystic will generate a notification to the origin system. Example:

Your PING request reached its final destination:

Address: 215:1/3.1
BBS Name: Test BBS 4
SysOp: Sysop Name Here

No additional route was found for this request.

Routing VIA Trace:

Via 215:1/2 @20210619.041119.UTC Mystic 1.12 A47
Via 215:1/3 @20210619.041126.UTC Mystic 1.12 A47
Via 215:1/3.1 @20210619.041132.UTC Mystic 1.12 A47

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A47 2021/06/19 (Windows/32)
* Origin: Sector 7 | Mystic WHQ (77:1/138)

On 19 Jun 2021, g00r00 said the following...

You may be interested in this little nugget that will be in the next prealpha:

+ MUTIL mail processor now supports Netmail PING and pass-through tracing.

Awesome! Thank you so much! :)

Will this be a new stanza or part of ImportEchoMail and/or ExportEchoMail?


Jay

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A47 2021/06/18 (Raspberry Pi/32)
* Origin: Northern Realms (77:1/156)

On 19 Jun 2021, Warpslide said the following...

Awesome! Thank you so much! :)

Will this be a new stanza or part of ImportEchoMail and/or
ExportEchoMail?

Just installed another copy to try it out & it works as expected:

From : Mystic BBS (99:99/1)
To : Jason Harris (99:99/2)
Subj : PING response from 99:99/1
Stat : Echo Priv Read
_____________________________________________________
Your PING request reached its final destination:

Address: 99:99/1
BBS Name: Northern Realms
SysOp: Warpslide

No additional route was found for this request.

Route VIA Trace:

Via 99:99/1 @20210619.091244.UTC Mystic 1.12 A47


Jay

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A47 2021/06/18 (Raspberry Pi/32)
* Origin: Northern Realms (77:1/156)

Awesome! Thank you so much! :)

Will this be a new stanza or part of ImportEchoMail and/or
ExportEchoMail?

It just happens automatically as part of the import/export functions

... Kids: They're not sleeping, they're recharging!

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A47 2021/06/19 (Windows/32)
* Origin: Sector 7 | Mystic WHQ (77:1/138)

On 19 Jun 2021, g00r00 said the following...

It just happens automatically as part of the import/export functions

Cool, thanks!

... Kids: They're not sleeping, they're recharging!

This part as me excited! ;)


Jay

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A47 2021/06/18 (Raspberry Pi/32)
* Origin: Northern Realms (77:1/156)

On 19 Jun 2021, Warpslide said the following...

... Kids: They're not sleeping, they're recharging!

This part as me excited! ;)

Woo Hoo! Looks like the June 20th build has taglines added!

Thanks g00r00! :D


Jay

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--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A47 2021/06/20 (Raspberry Pi/32)
* Origin: Northern Realms (77:1/156)

... Kids: They're not sleeping, they're recharging!

This part as me excited! ;)

Woo Hoo! Looks like the June 20th build has taglines added!

Yeah its a system I had been working on finishing for a while now, so I spent the weekend getting the final touches put in since there seemed to be some interest here for it!

Let me know if you have any issues! I'm pretty happy with how it turned out.

... The only place I want data loss is on my credit card!

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A47 2021/06/20 (Windows/32)
* Origin: Sector 7 * Mystic WHQ (77:1/138)

On 20 Jun 2021, g00r00 said the following...

Woo Hoo! Looks like the June 20th build has taglines added!

Yeah its a system I had been working on finishing for a while now, so I spent the weekend getting the final touches put in since there seemed to be some interest here for it!

Let me know if you have any issues! I'm pretty happy with how it turned

So far so good. The global & personal databases are a nice touch.


Jay

... The earth is a hollow shell and we live on the inside.

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A47 2021/06/20 (Raspberry Pi/32)
* Origin: Northern Realms (77:1/156)

This part as me excited! ;)

Same here!

Mark
TheMadGamerMan

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A47 2021/06/08 (Windows/64)
* Origin: P.O.N.R. BBS (77:1/151)

Yeah its a system I had been working on finishing for a while now, so I spent the weekend getting the final touches put in since there seemed to be some interest here for it!

Thanks.

Mark
TheMadGamerMan

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A47 2021/06/08 (Windows/64)
* Origin: P.O.N.R. BBS (77:1/151)