• SBBS

    From -= Havok =-@77:77/10 to Netsurge on Sun Mar 22 20:14:00 2020
    Re: Re: ForHonour 1.2-DEV vs
    By: Netsurge to Argos on Wed Feb 19 2020 11:22 pm

    M
    I have a request, I see a echo for Mystic and sure I read every post.

    But my request is a echo for SBBS also, any chance on getting that also or a vote on the request?


    Thank you...

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  • From Netsurge@77:1/100 to -= Havok =- on Sun Mar 22 20:54:56 2020
    But my request is a echo for SBBS also, any chance on getting that also
    or a vote on the request?

    I have no problem adding one but unlike the fact that g00r00 the authour of Mystic is a member of SciNet and can use the Mystic echo for bug reports and announcements, Digital Man the author of Synchronet isn't a member of SciNet. We do have people who regularly contribute to the SBBS code base like
    echicken.

    If the masses want one, they shall have one.

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  • From alterego@77:3/101 to Netsurge on Mon Mar 23 12:19:24 2020
    Re: Re: SBBS
    By: Netsurge to -= Havok =- on Sun Mar 22 2020 08:54 pm

    If the masses want one, they shall have one.

    I think it is great for folks who are wanting to reach out to another user for help/guidance, etc...

    I also think it would be great if we could "join" a few networks together - so that there werent so many echos on the same topic - could lead to a wider net for help. (But could also lead to other problems though.)

    BTW: "join" might not be the right word - maybe cross FTN zone routing might be a better way to describe it. As an example, if you and Avon joined at the top, so that Scinet echos could be collected in FSXnet and visa versa.

    Just throwing out ideas...
    ...deon


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  • From echicken@77:1/120 to -= Havok =- on Mon Mar 23 00:11:32 2020
    Re: SBBS
    By: -= Havok =- to Netsurge on Sun Mar 22 2020 20:14:00

    But my request is a echo for SBBS also, any chance on getting that also or a
    vote on the request?

    The Synchronet subs on DOVE-Net are the best place for SBBS support on a message net. DM is there, as are a ton of Synchronet sysops. Is there a reason you don't want to go there?

    Do you want an echo that's exclusive to this network, or do you want the DOVE-Net Synchronet subs gated here? (As they're already gated to FidoNet and USENET.)

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  • From echicken@77:1/120 to Netsurge on Mon Mar 23 00:37:04 2020
    Re: Re: SBBS
    By: Netsurge to -= Havok =- on Sun Mar 22 2020 20:54:56

    We do have people who regularly contribute to the SBBS code base like

    There are people here who could answer some questions, but in a lot of cases only DM readily has the answer. It might not be the best place for support, but if someone wants to avoid the official support forums, it'd be better for them than nothing.

    Or it might make sense to gate the DOVE-Net Synchronet subs here for people who are on SciNet but not FidoNet, USENET, or DOVE-Net. You could just pull in alt.bbs.synchronet.

    Take this as a cautionary tale or me going off on a tangent:

    There was a Yahoo! Group (may still exist as a listserv) that we couldn't kill because the owner was unreachable. Though DM responded to messages there, it was still a sucky way to get support. For the last five years he and I were the only support providers following it. You either got an answer from one of us, or nothing at all.

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  • From Netsurge@77:1/100 to echicken on Mon Mar 23 01:50:50 2020
    There are people here who could answer some questions, but in a lot of cases onl y DM readily has the answer. It might not be the best place
    for support, but if someone wants to avoid the official support forums, it'd be better for them than nothing.

    Hence why I started the paragraph with "DM isn't here right now".

    I am not opposed to gating Dove-Net's Sync echo here but maybe we should all congregate in the SCIBBS echo, that is what it is for, BBS questions. The
    only reason I have a Mystic dedicated echo is because g00r00 is a member of
    the network, but I don't want to exclude or leave out a dedicated echo for
    any other BBS package users and/or sysops might want.

    I'll reach out to Rob and see what he says.

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  • From Vk3jed@77:3/106 to echicken on Mon Mar 23 17:00:00 2020
    On 03-23-20 00:11, echicken wrote to -= Havok =- <=-

    Re: SBBS
    By: -= Havok =- to Netsurge on Sun Mar 22 2020 20:14:00

    But my request is a echo for SBBS also, any chance on getting that also or

    a
    vote on the request?

    The Synchronet subs on DOVE-Net are the best place for SBBS support on
    a message net. DM is there, as are a ton of Synchronet sysops. Is there
    a reason you don't want to go there?

    I second that, they are an excellent resource for Synchronet support, and DM is very active in them, helping sysops. And it's easy to add DOVE to your system, if your system supports QWK networking, or link your Fidonet system to the two gated echos.

    Do you want an echo that's exclusive to this network, or do you want
    the DOVE-Net Synchronet subs gated here? (As they're already gated to FidoNet and USENET.)

    That sounds like unnecessary redundancy to me.


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  • From -= Havok =-@77:77/10 to Netsurge on Mon Mar 23 07:44:00 2020
    Re: Re: SBBS
    By: Netsurge to -= Havok =- on Sun Mar 22 2020 08:54 pm


    I have no problem adding one but unlike the fact that g00r00 the authour of Mystic is a member of SciNet and can use the Mystic echo for bug reports and announcements, Digital Man the author of Synchronet isn't a member of SciNet. We do have people who regularly contribute to the SBBS code base like echicken.

    Sounds good being I run both software packages the same as you!

    Also echicken is one of the smart guys and anything he would add
    I'm sure would be helpful.

    -= Havok =-

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  • From -= Havok =-@77:77/10 to echicken on Mon Mar 23 07:47:00 2020
    Re: SBBS
    By: echicken to -= Havok =- on Mon Mar 23 2020 12:11 am

    Do you want an echo that's exclusive to this network, or do you want the DOVE-Net Synchronet subs gated here? (As they're already gated to FidoNet and USENET.)

    I'll soon have fido here and would like to join USENET, but one thing at
    a time. With you being here I figure would be enough and if more came that
    run SBBS all the better.



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  • From echicken@77:1/120 to Vk3jed on Mon Mar 23 10:33:16 2020
    Re: Re: SBBS
    By: Vk3jed to echicken on Mon Mar 23 2020 17:00:00

    Do you want an echo that's exclusive to this network, or do you want
    the DOVE-Net Synchronet subs gated here? (As they're already gated to

    That sounds like unnecessary redundancy to me.

    Somewhat, yeah. I can understand not wanting to be on DOVE-Net, but it wouldn't be hard to join and then just subscribe to the few relevant subs. Make them sysop-only if you want to make it invisible to hypothetical users.

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  • From echicken@77:1/120 to -= Havok =- on Mon Mar 23 10:38:34 2020
    Re: SBBS
    By: -= Havok =- to echicken on Mon Mar 23 2020 07:47:00

    I'll soon have fido here and would like to join USENET, but one thing at
    a time. With you being here I figure would be enough and if more came that run SBBS all the better.

    You have greater faith in my knowledge than I do, but at least there are others here as well.

    I've run into some people who, for various reasons, prefer not to ask DM for help. That's fair enough, I guess. Just understand that you might not always get the answer you're looking for. (There are some features of SBBS that I never use, for example, and can't offer much help with.)

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  • From Dumas Walker@77:1/115 to -= HAVOK =- on Mon Mar 23 16:55:00 2020
    But my request is a echo for SBBS also, any chance on getting that also
    or a vote on the request?

    As netsurge pointed out, Digital Man is not on scinet. Have you tried
    carrying dovenet? Also, if you are on fido, some of the dovenet synchronet support echos are bridged over to fido. DM hosts dovenet and is good about answering questions there, even when they are asked by the money man.


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  • From Vk3jed@77:3/106 to echicken on Tue Mar 24 11:00:00 2020
    On 03-23-20 10:33, echicken wrote to Vk3jed <=-

    Re: Re: SBBS
    By: Vk3jed to echicken on Mon Mar 23 2020 17:00:00

    Do you want an echo that's exclusive to this network, or do you want
    the DOVE-Net Synchronet subs gated here? (As they're already gated to

    That sounds like unnecessary redundancy to me.

    Somewhat, yeah. I can understand not wanting to be on DOVE-Net, but it wouldn't be hard to join and then just subscribe to the few relevant
    subs. Make them sysop-only if you want to make it invisible to hypothetical users.

    Yes, it's trivial to join DOVE-Net, if you have QWK networking capability. The alternative is to inconvenience a lot of sysops who are already carrying those echos (I have 2 copies as it is), if we gate them to this net. For various reasins, I tend to carry complete feeds of all nets I carry, except Fidonet.


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  • From -= Havok =-@77:77/10 to Dumas Walker on Tue Mar 24 07:44:00 2020
    Re: Re: SBBS
    By: Dumas Walker to -= HAVOK =- on Mon Mar 23 2020 04:55 pm

    As netsurge pointed out, Digital Man is not on scinet. Have you tried carrying dovenet? Also, if you are on fido, some of the dovenet synchronet support echos are bridged over to fido. DM hosts dovenet and is good about answering questions there, even when they are asked by the money man.

    I'll stick with fidonet then as soon as I find a feed.

    Thanks...



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  • From -= Havok =-@77:77/10 to echicken on Tue Mar 24 08:00:00 2020
    Re: SBBS
    By: echicken to -= Havok =- on Mon Mar 23 2020 12:11 am


    The Synchronet subs on DOVE-Net are the best place for SBBS support on a message net. DM is there, as are a ton of Synchronet sysops. Is there a reason you don't want to go there?

    I'll go there through fidonet...


    Do you want an echo that's exclusive to this network, or do you want the DOVE-Net Synchronet subs gated here? (As they're already gated to FidoNet and USENET.)

    USENET have not hooked up with that network yet and never have in the past.
    but that would be very interesting.

    -= Havok =-

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  • From -= Havok =-@77:77/10 to echicken on Tue Mar 24 08:03:00 2020
    Re: SBBS
    By: echicken to -= Havok =- on Mon Mar 23 2020 10:38 am


    You have greater faith in my knowledge than I do, but at least there are others here as well.

    (laughing) Your too funny!

    Faith in you, I use your web4 interface and it's outstanding!!!

    So yes I have faith in you and your work....



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  • From Dumas Walker@77:1/115 to -= HAVOK =- on Tue Mar 24 15:32:00 2020
    As netsurge pointed out, Digital Man is not on scinet. Have you tried
    carrying dovenet? Also, if you are on fido, some of the dovenet synchronet >DW> support echos are bridged over to fido. DM hosts dovenet and is good about >DW> answering questions there, even when they are asked by the money man.

    I'll stick with fidonet then as soon as I find a feed.

    Do you have a net/node number already? I would be glad to feed you echos.


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  • From -= Havok =-@77:77/10 to Dumas Walker on Tue Mar 24 19:55:00 2020
    Re: Re: SBBS
    By: Dumas Walker to -= HAVOK =- on Tue Mar 24 2020 03:32 pm


    Do you have a net/node number already? I would be glad to feed you echos.

    Thanks you for the offer, right now no, set in SBBS config for right now is: /9999

    And whenever thank you for the offer I'll take you up on that!


    Thanks...

    -= Havok =-

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  • From Dumas Walker@77:1/115 to -= HAVOK =- on Wed Mar 25 17:00:00 2020
    Do you have a net/node number already? I would be glad to feed you echos.

    Thanks you for the offer, right now no, set in SBBS config for right now is: /9999

    And whenever thank you for the offer I'll take you up on that!

    That would be a small problem in the sense that my local is also MIA (and
    is actually my regional) so I cannot assign a net/node number that would actually get anyone set up in the official nodelist.


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  • From -= Havok =-@77:77/10 to Dumas Walker on Thu Mar 26 20:39:00 2020
    Re: Re: SBBS
    By: Dumas Walker to -= HAVOK =- on Wed Mar 25 2020 05:00 pm


    That would be a small problem in the sense that my local is also MIA (and is actually my regional) so I cannot assign a net/node number that would actually get anyone set up in the official nodelist.

    Well I guess I'll sit back and wait....

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  • From Vk3jed@77:3/106 to -= Havok =- on Tue Mar 31 22:11:00 2020
    On 03-23-20 07:47, -= Havok =- wrote to echicken <=-

    Re: SBBS
    By: echicken to -= Havok =- on Mon Mar 23 2020 12:11 am

    Do you want an echo that's exclusive to this network, or do you want the DOVE-Net Synchronet subs gated here? (As they're already gated to FidoNet and USENET.)

    I'll soon have fido here and would like to join USENET, but one thing
    at
    a time. With you being here I figure would be enough and if more came that
    run SBBS all the better.

    I run SBBS, but I'm also on DOVE-Net and Fidonet, so I get my Synchronet support echos that way. ;)


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  • From Vk3jed@77:3/106 to -= Havok =- on Sat Apr 18 21:41:00 2020
    On 03-22-20 20:14, -= Havok =- wrote to Netsurge <=-

    Re: Re: ForHonour 1.2-DEV vs
    By: Netsurge to Argos on Wed Feb 19 2020 11:22 pm

    M
    I have a request, I see a echo for Mystic and sure I read every post.

    But my request is a echo for SBBS also, any chance on getting that also or a vote on the request?


    Hmm, someone burped up some old messages? ;)


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