Just chatting, that's all... yeah I'm good thanks, been kinda busy. Figure
I'd post and say hey :)

Oh who's that? Hello there :)

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Just chatting, that's all... yeah I'm good thanks, been kinda busy.
Figure I'd post and say hey :)

Oh who's that? Hello there :)

Well, that is one way of getting the ball rolling.

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Just chatting, that's all... yeah I'm good thanks, been kinda busy. Figure I'd post and say hey :)

Oh who's that? Hello there :)

Hello Avon! Talk to yourself often?

I am about to get a new next-door neighbor at work. I hope they are used
to people who talk to themselves... or that they wear headphones a lot! :0

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On 12 Sep 2019 at 12:47p, Netsurge pondered and said...

Well, that is one way of getting the ball rolling.

I try :)

I like this wall colour it looks good :)

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On 12 Sep 2019 at 06:44p, Dumas Walker pondered and said...

Hello Avon! Talk to yourself often?
I am about to get a new next-door neighbor at work. I hope they are used to people who talk to themselves... or that they wear headphones a lot!

Just so long as they look up before they cross the road :)

Yeah I mutter to myself sometimes and sometimes my wife reminds me... but in echomail no one can hear you scream .. or should that be space?

Anywhoo.. hello... yeah just thought I'd type some characters into this
screen editor thingy and have a chat, thankfully not just with myself :)

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I like this wall colour it looks good :)

I only had to paint it 3 different colours one weekend. My wife didn't like
the first two "shades". I really don't think she likes the 3rd either, but
she knew she was going to far having me paint it a 4th time.

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On 13 Sep 2019 at 01:15p, Netsurge pondered and said...

I only had to paint it 3 different colours one weekend. My wife didn't like the first two "shades". I really don't think she likes the 3rd either, but she knew she was going to far having me paint it a 4th time.

This man speaks the truth :)

We are painting (slowly) the various rooms in our house at the moment. My
wife is leading the charge. I have been 'helping' but for the most part it's her hard work that has led to two rooms and our hallway so far being updated.

Colour... oh my, yes, so many to choose from, and then tints etc. does my
head it. She loves it, but she also quilts and does things with fabrics etc.. so in her zone :)

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Colour... oh my, yes, so many to choose from, and then tints etc. does my head it. She loves it, but she also quilts and does things with fabrics etc.. so in her zone :)

In this household, I don't pick the paint, I just to it on the walls. If it
was up to me, everything would be white.

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On 13 Sep 2019 at 03:54p, Netsurge pondered and said...

In this household, I don't pick the paint, I just to it on the walls. If it was up to me, everything would be white.

Better than lime green... we had a run it with that colour a few years ago... only just got rid of it :)

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On 2019-09-13 21:50:01 +0000, Avon said:

On 13 Sep 2019 at 03:54p, Netsurge pondered and said...

In this household, I don't pick the paint, I just to it on the walls. If it was up to me, everything would be white.

Better than lime green... we had a run it with that colour a few years ago... only just got rid of it :)

My 3 paint job adventure was all based around a grey colour. If you ask
me, all of them looked exactly the same but apparently they were not.

I see things in RGBWB. Red, Green, Blue, White and Black. Nothing else matters, lol.
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Dumas Walker wrote to AVON <=-

I am about to get a new next-door neighbor at work. I hope they are
used to people who talk to themselves... or that they wear headphones a lot! :0

I hope we finally agree that open-office floorplans failed miserably. I work in a small-ish office of about 30 people, and we're all open office. I should be able to walk over and have a short conversation with someone, but instead everyone's wearing headphones and slacking each other.

Call me old-school, but if you can walk over and have a face-to-face conversation with someone, why rely on something as frought with holes as chat? I guess it's the manager in me showing. One of my direct reports once bought me an Initech mug and stack of TPS report cover sheets. Meant in the best way possible, of course.

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Netsurge wrote to Avon <=-

I only had to paint it 3 different colours one weekend. My wife didn't like the first two "shades". I really don't think she likes the 3rd either, but she knew she was going to far having me paint it a 4th
time.

My wife and I differ on paint. I find a color and go with it, she puts on
the first coat, second guesses the final color when it's only partially covered, then gets the next can remixed a little darker/lighter/&tc.

Then, puts on a new coat, doesn't like it and goes back to the original
color. Consistently.

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Avon wrote to Netsurge <=-

Better than lime green... we had a run it with that colour a few years ago... only just got rid of it :)

That's a pain the ass to cover.

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Re: Re: Chatting
By: Poindexter Fortran to Dumas Walker on Sat Sep 14 2019 20:31:00

I hope we finally agree that open-office floorplans failed miserably. I work
in a small-ish office of about 30 people, and we're all open office. I

I work in an open office with eight other people, plus three who have offices but leave their doors open to be annoying (so I can hear their music and phone calls). There are dividers that provide a bit of privacy but do nothing to block all of the lovely smells and sounds. We're seated so we're closest to the people we might need to talk to most frequently. The office was set up to promote conversation and frequent exchange of information. Nobody talks.

I work from home occasionally and it's wonderful. Those are my most productive days.

instead everyone's wearing headphones and slacking each other.

I don't like wearing headphones all day, but I do it because otherwise I'm too distracted by the noise around me. The music from the guy who doesn't use headphones. The clinking of cutlery on mason jars from the woman who sits opposite me. The extra clicky keyboard of the guy across the room. The local side of phone conversations.

As mentioned previously, nobody talks. People chat with each other on Teams (we used to use Slack, but that's a whole other gripe-fest) within the office because it's less disruptive. The person you're bugging can answer at their leisure rather than being interrupted by you walking up, and the rest of the
office doesn't need to hear the conversation.

Call me old-school, but if you can walk over and have a face-to-face conversation with someone, why rely on something as frought with holes as chat? I guess it's the manager in me showing. One of my direct reports once

You're old-school. You're not wrong, but there are also reasons (see above) for using chat instead.

My office is a waste of space, and it's a waste of money and energy for me to go there every day. There is nothing about my job that I can't do from off site, and my being physically present in the office makes no difference. When people want to contact me, they use chat or email. They never come over to my desk.

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I hope we finally agree that open-office floorplans failed miserably. I work in a small-ish office of about 30 people, and we're all open office. I should be able to walk over and have a short conversation with someone, but instead everyone's wearing headphones and slacking each other.

Verbal communication is the quickest and most efficient way, although
services like Slack and Zulip (we use Zulip at work) comes in really handy
when people are spread out across multiples offices or if people are on the road a a lot.

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My wife and I differ on paint. I find a color and go with it, she puts
on the first coat, second guesses the final color when it's only
partially covered, then gets the next can remixed a little darker/lighter/&tc.

Then, puts on a new coat, doesn't like it and goes back to the original color. Consistently.

I wish they would make their minds up from the onset. Multiple colour changes just because the shade is slightly off it a time sink.

I've told my wife, let me paint a test strip and let it dry then you can decide. Nooooope, has to be the whole room before she decides she doesn't
like it.

Shoot me.

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I hope we finally agree that open-office floorplans failed miserably. I work in a small-ish office of about 30 people, and we're all open office. I should be able to walk over and have a short conversation with someone, but instead everyone's wearing headphones and slacking each other.

I wish we all would agree to that. Each time the organization I work for sets up a new office area, the cube walls get smaller. I believe they only reason they've kept cubes at all is to hold up the modular furnature. That is all
the walls do now. If you are more than 6 ft tall, you can see over them
when seated.

Funny, when I started my career (with a company that was nearly 100 years
old), we had a pretty-much completely open office area. As I moved up in
my career, to different organizations, that seemed to be a thing of the
past, not the future. It is coming back now for sure. :(

Call me old-school, but if you can walk over and have a face-to-face conversation with someone, why rely on something as frought with holes as chat? I guess it's the manager in me showing. One of my direct reports once bought me an Initech mug and stack of TPS report cover sheets. Meant in the best way possible, of course.

I would normally rather do that, too, unless it is someone I really don't
want to get stuck in a conversation with, i.e. people who don't stay on
topic. It is easier to side-step that in a chat window. :)

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I work from home occasionally and it's wonderful. Those are my most productive
days.

We don't get to work from home much, but Fridays can be productive as
people flex-off or leave early.

I don't like wearing headphones all day, but I do it because otherwise I'm too >distracted by the noise around me. The music from the guy who doesn't use >headphones. The clinking of cutlery on mason jars from the woman who sits >opposite me. The extra clicky keyboard of the guy across the room. The local >side of phone conversations.

I have started wearing earbuds & listening to music. I sit near the coffee machine but don't drink the stuff. If the coffee drinkers are not in
meetings, they congregate around it and talk loudly.

As mentioned previously, nobody talks. People chat with each other on Teams (we used to use Slack, but that's a whole other gripe-fest) within the office because it's less disruptive. The person you're bugging can answer at their leisure rather than being interrupted by you walking up, and the rest of the
office doesn't need to hear the conversation.

We use skype. I usually keep mine turned off because > 75% of what my
office uses it for is not work related and I like to stay out of the office gossip / cat-fighting that goes on there.

My office is a waste of space, and it's a waste of money and energy for me to >go there every day. There is nothing about my job that I can't do from off >site, and my being physically present in the office makes no difference. When >people want to contact me, they use chat or email. They never come over to my >desk.

There have been times I could say this also. We are about to start a big project, so that will probably not be the case again until I retire in 5+ years. :)

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I've told my wife, let me paint a test strip and let it dry then you can decide. Nooooope, has to be the whole room before she decides she doesn't like it.

That'd be when I let her paint it herself. She will either enjoy it, or
she will start letting you paint the test strips. :)

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Just chatting, that's all... yeah I'm good thanks, been kinda busy.
Figure
I'd post and say hey :)

Oh who's that? Hello there :)

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Colour... oh my, yes, so many to choose from, and then tints etc. does my

head it. She loves it, but she also quilts and does things with fabrics
etc.. so in her zone :)

In this household, I don't pick the paint, I just to it on the walls.
If it
was up to me, everything would be white.

Yeah. Paint is just fine. That was actually my reply when the missus came home with rolls of wallpaper yesterday suggesting we (as in I) should put it up this coming weekend.

Not sure I can fake my own death in a credible way with such short notice.

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Not sure I can fake my own death in a credible way with such short
notice.

My dad use to tell me growing up "Don't do everything perfectly all the time, screw up every now and then. If you do things right all the time then people always expect that of you. If you screw up every now and then please won't expect perfection all the time".

Saying that, lay one or two strips of wallpaper and make sure that they don't line up or have gaps in them. Then ask the wife what she thinks. I bet you
will be relived of your duties, lol.

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