• To many Variables?

    From HusTler@77:77/10 to All on Sun Oct 18 13:38:20 2020
    Are there too many variables to have everyone view a BBS message the same? There are individual BBS settings. How messages are transfered between BBS networks. I've always enjoyed the ANSI graphics part of the BBS scene but now I'm seeing many BBSers either don't like them or just prefer to block them or strip the ansi codes out. That said does that mean ascii is going to be the BBS standard? Is Ansi obsolete?HusTler Havens BBS
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  • From g00r00@77:1/138 to HusTler on Sun Oct 18 18:17:08 2020
    Are there too many variables to have everyone view a BBS message the same? There are individual BBS settings. How messages are transfered between BBS networks. I've always enjoyed the ANSI graphics part of the BBS scene but now I'm seeing many BBSers either don't like them or just prefer to block them or strip the ansi codes out. That said does that
    mean ascii is going to be the BBS standard? Is Ansi obsolete?HusTler

    Its not really any different than it always has been. If anything the ANSI/BBS modding scene is much more intertwined with the
    "PD" BBS scene these days. Back in the day there was always animosity from some "PD" BBS users towards the ANSI art scene and in turn the art scene would filter out problematic people. We were called "elitests" because if you were a grumpy disrespectful asshole chances are you'd get blacklisted, and those grumpy people didn't like that outcome.

    You'd think we would have evolved past that, but there are still some people who have that animosity just like they did in 1994.

    As far as ANSI in messages specifically, there aren't a lot of softwares (maybe just Enigma?) that supports ANSI in messages and file descriptions in the same way that Mystic does, where you can incorporate ANSI art directly in your messages when you are creating them. Some software can't display messages properly with ANSI embedded into them, and some of those softwares are used by those grumpy people. Grumpy people get grumpy when their software can't read ANSI and you post messages with ANSI!

    TLDR: Some people are just not happy unless they're angry and miserable. ;)

    ANSI isn't going anywhere, although ASCII art is cool too!

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  • From Dumas Walker@77:1/115 to HUSTLER on Sun Oct 18 16:36:00 2020
    Are there too many variables to have everyone view a BBS message the same? Th
    e are individual BBS settings. How messages are transfered between BBS network
    I've always enjoyed the ANSI graphics part of the BBS scene but now I'm seein
    many BBSers either don't like them or just prefer to block them or strip the a
    i codes out. That said does that mean ascii is going to be the BBS standard? I
    Ansi obsolete?HusTler Havens BBS

    I don't know about obsolete, but it seems to me that FTN networks have
    mostly always been "ascii unless the echo allows it," i.e. you would post
    ascii in a general chat echo or a sysop echo, and save the ansi for the BBS
    ads or the ansi art echos.


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  • From HusTler@77:77/10 to g00r00 on Mon Oct 19 10:22:58 2020
    Re: Re: To many Variables?
    By: g00r00 to HusTler on Sun Oct 18 2020 06:17 pm

    messages when you are creating them. Some software can't display messages > properly with ANSI embedded into them, and some of those softwares are used > those grumpy people. Grumpy people get grumpy when their software can't read > ANSI and you post messages with ANSI! > TLDR: Some people are just not happy unless they're angry and miserable. ;)LOL! Did you hear that Grumpy people?? Well to solve my problem I could either block the grumpy people or just eliminate any ansi codes from my messages. The later seems to be my best bet. Thanks for your reply. HusTler Havens BBS
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  • From g00r00@77:1/138 to HusTler on Mon Oct 19 17:40:20 2020
    you hear that Grumpy people?? Well to solve my problem I could either block the grumpy people or just eliminate any ansi codes from my
    messages. The later seems to be my best bet. Thanks for your reply.

    Yep makes the most sense to follow your network's rules. If they allow it, do what you want. If they don't, then don't!

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