• Toshiba Libretto

    From Shaggy@21:1/135 to All on Sat Nov 4 22:48:54 2023
    I've recently purchased and retro-modded a Toshiba Libretto from eBay. It was listed as non-working, untetested. I added a IDE to CF card adapter, a fresh install of w98, added a $3 PCMCIA wireless card, with a hot spot running from my phone. Even the battery that was made back in the mid to late 90's is holding a charge. I've owned countless phones in the last decade that can't say
    that.

    I'm thoroughly enjoying reliving my retro years telneting around experincing BBS nostalgia from my couch and micro-laptop. I've had to dust off learnings from a few decades ago working with such an old os, but somehow I find it both relaxing and fun.

    Here's to the late 90's.

    Shaggy


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  • From Bob Worm@21:1/205 to Shaggy on Sun Nov 5 22:21:35 2023
    Re: Toshiba Libretto
    By: Shaggy to All on Sat Nov 04 2023 22:48:54

    Hi, Shaggy.

    I've recently purchased and retro-modded a Toshiba Libretto from eBay.
    It was listed as non-working, untetested. I added a IDE to CF card adapter, a fresh install of w98, added a $3 PCMCIA wireless card, with a hot spot running from my phone.

    Ooh, nice :) Sounds like you got a bargain, there. A good friend of mine regularly laments that he had "a few" Librettos and eBayed them all off while they weren't worth what they are now!

    Even the battery that was made back in the mid to late 90's is holding a charge. I've owned countless phones in the last decade that can't say that.

    Ah, yes. Seems like the more toxic the chemicals they're made of, the better they last...

    I'm thoroughly enjoying reliving my retro years telneting around experincing BBS nostalgia from my couch and micro-laptop. I've had to dust off learnings from a few decades ago working with such an old os, but somehow I find it both relaxing and fun.

    This lovely image made me go up into the loft and get my little Dell laptop down. It's not quite as old as I thought, though, with a Pentium 233 processor, and the hard drive seems to have died. Better order myself another CF to 40 pin IDE adaptor, I think!

    Here's to the late 90's.

    Enjoy!

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  • From Shaggy@21:1/135 to Bob Worm on Sun Nov 5 20:00:40 2023
    BY: Bob Worm (21:1/205)


    This lovely image made me go up into the loft and get my little Dell
    laptop down. It's not quite as old as I thought, though, with a Pentium
    233 processor, and the hard drive seems to have died. Better order
    myself another CF to 40 pin IDE adaptor, I think!

    Here's to the late 90's.

    Enjoy!

    BobW

    Nice. Took me a while to get my PCMCIA wireless card working. Now that I have that figured out, looking for a DOS style BBS client. mTelnet works until it crashes whenever I try to post a message. An older version of Putty works,2~ but doesn't have ZModem support...

    Hope you get it running...

    Shaggy

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  • From Bob Worm@21:1/205 to Shaggy on Mon Nov 6 06:32:39 2023
    Re: Re: Toshiba Libretto
    By: Shaggy to Bob Worm on Sun Nov 05 2023 20:00:40

    Hi, Shaggy.

    Nice. Took me a while to get my PCMCIA wireless card working. Now that I have that figured out, looking for a DOS style BBS client. mTelnet works until it crashes whenever I try to post a message. An older version of Putty works,2~ but doesn't have ZModem support...

    A pretty authentic 90s online experience, then :) Takes me back to '95, having to swap between two "known good" copies of WINSOCK.DLL depending on what I was trying to do that day...

    Serial to WiFi adaptor out of the question? Would probably double the footprint of a Libretto, though!

    Hope you get it running...

    Yeah, I'll probably just cheat and install Linux on it. I have a couple of PCMCIA WiFi cards around here somewhere, I just can't lay my hands on one right now - I'm not sure USB1.1 would really work for WiFi.

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  • From Tiny@21:1/222 to Bob Worm on Mon Nov 6 06:18:18 2023
    A pretty authentic 90s online experience, then :) Takes me back to
    '95, having to swap between two "known good" copies of WINSOCK.DLL
    depending on what I was trying to do that day...

    Laugh, I remember doing that as well! I switched to OS/2 right around
    that time because it worked better.

    Shawn


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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@21:4/122 to Shaggy on Mon Nov 6 06:34:00 2023
    Shaggy wrote to All <=-

    I've recently purchased and retro-modded a Toshiba Libretto from eBay.
    It was listed as non-working, untetested. I added a IDE to CF card adapter, a fresh install of w98, added a $3 PCMCIA wireless card, with
    a hot spot running from my phone. Even the battery that was made back
    in the mid to late 90's is holding a charge. I've owned countless
    phones in the last decade that can't say that.


    Nice! My company's CEO had one back in 1998 or so, loved getting to
    configure/fix it for him. About that same time, I got an IBM workpad
    Z50, a little 2/3s form factor thinkpad that ran Windows CE. Another
    person in the company had a HP 200LX. Good times for small computers.



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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@21:4/122 to Bob Worm on Mon Nov 6 06:36:00 2023
    Bob Worm wrote to Shaggy <=-

    Serial to WiFi adaptor out of the question? Would probably double the footprint of a Libretto, though!

    Xircom used to make a parallel to Ethernet adapter - was a good fraction
    of the size of the Libretto! They finally came out with a CF card that
    worked with it, my user was much happier.



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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@21:4/122 to Tiny on Mon Nov 6 06:40:00 2023
    Tiny wrote to Bob Worm <=-

    Laugh, I remember doing that as well! I switched to OS/2 right around that time because it worked better.

    In retrospect, I think I spent as much time tweaking OS/2 config.sys
    files trying to get drivers to load correctly as I did running memmaker
    trying to eke out a little more RAM out of DOS.

    I did love OS/2, though. I started out running OS/2 1.3 on IBM PS/2s,
    and could run a modem session, MS LAN Manager networking, Novell
    networking, connect to a AS/400 over twinax, and run Word and Excel on
    a system with a 386 and 8 MB of RAM.



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  • From Bob Worm@21:1/205 to poindexter FORTRAN on Tue Nov 7 07:14:23 2023
    Re: Re: Toshiba Libretto
    By: poindexter FORTRAN to Bob Worm on Mon Nov 06 2023 06:36:00

    Hi, Poindexter.

    Xircom used to make a parallel to Ethernet adapter - was a good fraction
    of the size of the Libretto! They finally came out with a CF card that worked with it, my user was much happier.

    I have a Xircom parallel to Ethernet up in my loft, somewhere. I imagine the rubber tank track thingie for tightening / loosening the screws is probably not in great shape after all this time.

    Great, now I have to go and find that, too...

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  • From Shaggy@21:1/135 to Bob Worm on Mon Nov 6 23:41:25 2023
    BY: Bob Worm (21:1/205)


    A pretty authentic 90s online experience, then :) Takes me back to '95, having to swap between two "known good" copies of WINSOCK.DLL depending
    on what I was trying to do that day...

    Ha. - I got an SMC PCMCIA adapter working so I'm at least portable with it while the battery lasts. Need to find a FSE that works on linux for my WWIV BBS though... have to use a crappy HyperTerminal to post as MTelnet crashes when I launch the internal FSE.


    Yeah, I'll probably just cheat and install Linux on it. I have a couple
    of PCMCIA WiFi cards around here somewhere, I just can't lay my hands on one right now - I'm not sure USB1.1 would really work for WiFi.

    I received a second Libretto today, so that might be the next thing to keep me out of trouble. At least for a little while.


    Too fun...

    Shaggy

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  • From Shaggy@21:1/135 to Poindexter Fortran on Mon Nov 6 23:45:44 2023
    BY: poindexter FORTRAN (21:4/122)


    Nice! My company's CEO had one back in 1998 or so, loved getting to
    configure/fix it for him. About that same time, I got an IBM workpad
    Z50, a little 2/3s form factor thinkpad that ran Windows CE. Another
    person in the company had a HP 200LX. Good times for small computers.

    I had a HP CE device, but was never impressed by how it was pokey slow and hard to type on. If there was a device back then with CE and the PSION keyboard, that would've been better.

    I think I might walk into my next meeting with the CIO and whip out my Libretto. See what his reaction is. :)

    Shaggy

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  • From Shaggy@21:1/135 to Poindexter Fortran on Mon Nov 6 23:47:40 2023
    BY: poindexter FORTRAN (21:4/122)


    I did love OS/2, though. I started out running OS/2 1.3 on IBM PS/2s,
    and could run a modem session, MS LAN Manager networking, Novell
    networking, connect to a AS/400 over twinax, and run Word and Excel on
    a system with a 386 and 8 MB of RAM.

    I ran OS/2 for years when I was in software support. Loved it. Wonder if I could get that running on the Libretto. Don't know if I have <that> much time!


    Shaggy

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  • From Bob Worm@21:1/205 to Shaggy on Tue Nov 7 09:37:52 2023
    Re: Re: Toshiba Libretto
    By: Shaggy to Poindexter Fortran on Mon Nov 06 2023 23:45:44

    Hi, Shaggy.

    If there was a device back then with CE and the PSION
    keyboard, that would've been better.

    I have a series 5 up in the loft (this loft is starting to sound like an Alladin's cave) but, as they often do, the display has stopped working on it. I may revive it one day but I gather that's quite an expensive thing to do - I wonder if there's an IPS screen replacement for those? That would be lovely :)

    I really liked Psion's OS, as well. It's a shame they're not around any more :(

    I think I might walk into my next meeting with the CIO and whip out my Libretto. See what his reaction is. :)

    I was thinking of taking my Acorn A3020 with me to the datacentre the next time I'm there. I imagine it might attract some odd looks sat on a crash trolley, especially if I started inserting 3.5" floppies into it. In truth, I work on telecoms / networking kit so anything with a 9600 baud serial port is perfectly fine.

    In fact that's how I found out the Psion was dead - I thought it would be ideal as an ultra-portable serial terminal and got it out for that purpose.

    Speaking of professional computing, another one of my permanently shelved projects was to take my son's old Leapfrog Clickstart "My First Computer" and decode the IR coming out of the keyboard and mouse so that it could be used as an input device on a "real" computer.

    For those unfamiliar:

    https://static01.nyt.com/images/2007/06/27/technology/28computer.600.jpg

    I got some way into that project using a logic analyser but never got to a working prototype. Anyway, I thought it would be pretty amazing to use as a daily runner, or at least to take into the office and to pretend to use it as a daily runner...

    We are an interesting group...

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  • From Bob Worm@21:1/205 to Shaggy on Tue Nov 7 09:47:38 2023
    Re: Re: Toshiba Libretto
    By: Shaggy to Bob Worm on Mon Nov 06 2023 23:41:25

    Hi, Shaggy.

    Need to find a FSE that works on linux for my WWIV BBS though...

    I had to Google that... I assume you mean "Full Screen Editor", rather than "Furry Search Engine", which is the first hit when you search for "FSE BBS"?

    Or at least it is when I search for it... not sure what Google is trying to tell me, there!

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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@21:4/122 to Shaggy on Tue Nov 7 06:40:00 2023
    Shaggy wrote to Poindexter Fortran <=-

    I had a HP CE device, but was never impressed by how it was pokey slow
    and hard to type on. If there was a device back then with CE and the PSION keyboard, that would've been better.

    Before Wifi, I used a Wordpad Z50 on my hourlong commute. I took a
    ferry from Oakland to San Francisco, and had a nice working area with
    tables and comfy seats. I'd use the sync tool to synchronize my
    documents from my desktop to the Wordpad and write on my way in, it
    worked nicely, since it was auto-on. Laptops back then took a while to
    boot. Get to my desk, plug in, sync and go.

    They had a version of Outlook on it, but I think it used IMAP instead
    of native Exchange protocols.

    I wouldn't mind finding one nowadays, they apparently run NetBSD just
    fine.

    I think I might walk into my next meeting with the CIO and whip out my Libretto. See what his reaction is. :)


    That would be awesome, especially if you plugged it into a desktop
    projector and pulled out a powerpoint. It's got VGA out somewhere, doesn't
    it? Maybe on the dock?





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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@21:4/122 to Bob Worm on Tue Nov 7 07:45:00 2023
    Bob Worm wrote to Shaggy <=-

    Re: Re: Toshiba Libretto
    By: Shaggy to Poindexter Fortran on Mon Nov 06 2023 23:45:44

    Hi, Shaggy.

    If there was a device back then with CE and the PSION
    keyboard, that would've been better.

    I have a series 5 up in the loft (this loft is starting to sound like
    an Alladin's cave) but, as they often do, the display has stopped
    working on it. I may revive it one day but I gather that's quite an expensive thing to do - I wonder if there's an IPS screen replacement
    for those? That would be lovely :)

    I really liked Psion's OS, as well. It's a shame they're not around any more :(

    I think I might walk into my next meeting with the CIO and whip out my Libretto. See what his reaction is. :)

    I was thinking of taking my Acorn A3020 with me to the datacentre the
    next time I'm there. I imagine it might attract some odd looks sat on a crash trolley, especially if I started inserting 3.5" floppies into it.
    In truth, I work on telecoms / networking kit so anything with a 9600
    baud serial port is perfectly fine.

    In fact that's how I found out the Psion was dead - I thought it would
    be ideal as an ultra-portable serial terminal and got it out for that purpose.

    Speaking of professional computing, another one of my permanently
    shelved projects was to take my son's old Leapfrog Clickstart "My First Computer" and decode the IR coming out of the keyboard and mouse so
    that it could be used as an input device on a "real" computer.

    For those unfamiliar:

    https://static01.nyt.com/images/2007/06/27/technology/28computer.600.jpg


    I got some way into that project using a logic analyser but never got
    to a working prototype. Anyway, I thought it would be pretty amazing to use as a daily runner, or at least to take into the office and to
    pretend to use it as a daily runner...

    We are an interesting group...

    BobW
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  • From Spectre@21:3/101 to Bob Worm on Wed Nov 8 01:16:00 2023
    Need to find a FSE that works on linux for my WWIV BBS though...

    I had to Google that... I assume you mean "Full Screen Editor", rather than "Furry Search Engine", which is the first hit when you search for

    Not the Fluffy Sex Exhibition? :P

    Spec


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  • From Bob Worm@21:1/205 to poindexter FORTRAN on Tue Nov 7 19:32:21 2023
    Re: Re: Toshiba Libretto
    By: poindexter FORTRAN to Bob Worm on Tue Nov 07 2023 07:45:00

    Hi, Poindexter.

    Bob Worm wrote to Shaggy <=-
    [...]
    BobW

    I'm not sure if it's my end or yours but I couldn't see any of your words in that reply, just a quote from the previous message?

    Cheers,

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  • From Shaggy@21:1/135 to Bob Worm on Tue Nov 7 13:31:44 2023
    BY: Bob Worm (21:1/205)


    I really liked Psion's OS, as well. It's a shame they're not around any more :(



    They are not around, but their keyboard technology is. Planet Computers acquired it and has produced three smart-device-phone variants. I have the original device called the Gemini, and picked up the latest Astro-Slide earlier this year. (Yes I giggle a little bit every time I say Astro-Slide). The tech is great, but it can't compete or keep up with the fruit or the droids. I use it as a backup phone, and a hotspot currently.

    I would love to see your leap frog project come to life. Definately would put that on the desk at work if I were you. :)

    Shaggy

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  • From Shaggy@21:1/135 to Bob Worm on Tue Nov 7 13:33:51 2023
    BY: Bob Worm (21:1/205)


    I had to Google that... I assume you mean "Full Screen Editor", rather
    than "Furry Search Engine", which is the first hit when you search for
    "FSE BBS"?

    Or at least it is when I search for it... not sure what Google is trying
    to tell me, there!


    YES! Although a furry search engine has its own issues, as well as entertainment value.

    Shaggy

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  • From Shaggy@21:1/135 to Poindexter Fortran on Tue Nov 7 13:38:23 2023
    BY: poindexter FORTRAN (21:4/122)


    I think I might walk into my next meeting with the CIO and whip out
    my
    Libretto. See what his reaction is. :)


    That would be awesome, especially if you plugged it into a desktop
    projector and pulled out a powerpoint. It's got VGA out somewhere,
    doesn't
    it? Maybe on the dock?

    It has a VGA out on the dock. Sadly it wouldn't run PP. I do have an old version of VNC, that could run it from another PC on net. Could run virtually anything I would think.


    Shaggy

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  • From Shaggy@21:1/135 to Poindexter Fortran on Tue Nov 7 13:39:48 2023
    BY: poindexter FORTRAN (21:4/122)

    BTW - I want to see this loft! Seems like a treasure trove of nastalgic technology.


    Shaggy

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  • From Bob Worm@21:1/205 to Shaggy on Wed Nov 8 09:24:47 2023
    Re: Re: Toshiba Libretto
    By: Shaggy to Poindexter Fortran on Tue Nov 07 2023 13:39:48

    Hi, Shaggy.

    BTW - I want to see this loft! Seems like a treasure trove of nastalgic technology.

    I don't actually have that much in there - to date I don't think I've bought a single piece of retro tech in its retro phase, I just hoarded everything I ever owned from when it was current (except, inexplicably, a pair of Pentium II PCs with Voodoo cards which I did all my gaming on). More by luck than judgement, I seem to have accumulated a few things with solid nostalgia value.

    There was some good stuff at my parents' house, including a Wyse dumb terminal, a bunch of mainframe tape spools, an Atari 800XL... which got tossed at some point. Presumably so they could have room to store that roll of carpet they kept from their first house in 1975...

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  • From Ogg@21:4/106.21 to Nightfox on Wed Nov 8 20:28:00 2023
    Hello Nightfox!

    ** On Wednesday 08.11.23 - 09:06, Nightfox wrote to poindexter FORTRAN:

    It's funny to think of Windows XP as nostalgia now. I remember using
    XP when it was brand new and thinking it was pretty cool.

    You're not alone. I remember when we had to phase Windows XP out, and we
    had holdouts who preferred it to Windows 7.

    I wasn't an XP holdout, as I liked WIndows 7 as well. But I think Windows XP was one of the best versions of Windows they produced.

    XP is operating quite nicely here on two laptops. The laptops
    each have a maximum of 3GB ram, but everything I need runs
    quite fine.

    I recently upgraded one of my XP laptops (Thinkpad T60) from a
    230GB HDD to a 1TB SSD with the help of a friend who walked me
    through a byte-by-byte transition using a linux tool for one of
    my two partitions that wasn't cooperating with the usual
    cloning process.

    All is quite good with XP.

    My other systems are Win7.

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  • From unc0nnected@21:1/199 to Ogg on Thu Nov 9 22:04:25 2023
    It's funny to think of Windows XP as nostalgia now. I remember usi
    XP when it was brand new and thinking it was pretty cool.
    You're not alone. I remember when we had to phase Windows XP out, an
    had holdouts who preferred it to Windows 7.
    I wasn't an XP holdout, as I liked WIndows 7 as well. But I think Win XP was one of the best versions of Windows they produced.

    For me I was a windows 2000 holdout, I just couldn't get past how bubbly and dumbed down XP felt after being with 2000 for a couple of years so I stuck with that until Windows 7. Although compared to Windows ME, XP was a dream come true.

    Same thing happened with Windows 7, liked it so much I stuck with that until Windows 10 and now I'm stuck on that :) Windows releases are like Star Trek movies, every other one is noticeably better.

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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@21:4/122 to unc0nnected on Fri Nov 10 07:22:00 2023
    unc0nnected wrote to Ogg <=-


    For me I was a windows 2000 holdout, I just couldn't get past how
    bubbly and dumbed down XP felt after being with 2000 for a couple of
    years so I stuck with that until Windows 7. Although compared to
    Windows ME, XP was a dream come true.

    This message thread made me think about how I didn't mind Vista all
    that much. It was a bit faster than 7, but the hardware at the time was
    crap. I remember core 2 duos with 3 GB of RAM being high-end for home
    use, and Vista could have used more - did more than XP did. Vista on a
    SSD would have been a different story.



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  • From esc@21:4/173 to poindexter FORTRAN on Fri Nov 10 14:57:59 2023
    This message thread made me think about how I didn't mind Vista all
    that much. It was a bit faster than 7, but the hardware at the time was
    crap. I remember core 2 duos with 3 GB of RAM being high-end for home
    use, and Vista could have used more - did more than XP did. Vista on a
    SSD would have been a different story.

    Really? I found Win7 to be remarkably faster than Vista.

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  • From Tiny@21:1/222 to poindexter FORTRAN on Mon Nov 13 06:20:01 2023
    In retrospect, I think I spent as much time tweaking OS/2 config.sys
    files trying to get drivers to load correctly as I did running
    trying to eke out a little more RAM out of DOS.

    Probably but it was more fun. LOL

    I don't run it now, but i miss it.

    Shawn

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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@21:4/122 to Tiny on Mon Nov 13 06:23:00 2023
    Tiny wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-

    In retrospect, I think I spent as much time tweaking OS/2 config.sys
    files trying to get drivers to load correctly as I did running
    trying to eke out a little more RAM out of DOS.

    Probably but it was more fun. LOL

    When compared to Windows at the time, it was amazing - once you got it
    up and running. I ran Maximus and Frontdoor on my desktop and barely
    noticed it running in the background. It took years for Windows to catch
    up to that.


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  • From Tiny@21:1/222 to poindexter FORTRAN on Tue Nov 14 06:24:06 2023
    When compared to Windows at the time, it was amazing - once you got it
    up and running. I ran Maximus and Frontdoor on my desktop and barely
    noticed it running in the background. It took years for Windows to
    catch up to that.

    True. I think Windows XP SP2 is around where it caught up enough that
    you could run a BBS in the background without really noticing it. At
    least it was the first version of Windows I could use to run a BBS.

    Shawn

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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@21:4/122 to Tiny on Tue Nov 14 05:50:00 2023
    Tiny wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-

    True. I think Windows XP SP2 is around where it caught up enough that
    you could run a BBS in the background without really noticing it. At least it was the first version of Windows I could use to run a BBS.

    As the dial-up scene wound down, it became feasible to shut down my
    standalone BBS box and run everything off of my desktop. I ran Windows
    95 with a DOS tamer program and winfossil, and it ran OK. I was probably running a Pentium Pro 200 CPU I'd scavenged from work, guessing I had 64
    mb of RAM at the time. Oh, how far we've come...




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