• QWKnet and MagiNet

    From apam@21:1/125 to All on Fri Dec 21 11:28:32 2018
    Hi

    So I'm wondering about the qwknet and Maginet tools in magicka.

    The config files as they are don't lend themselves to configuring
    specific types of message base per area. I could easily configure a
    format for all the areas, but to do so on a per area basis would require
    a bit of reworking of the config files.

    Are people likely to want different message base formats within the same network? Or would it be ok for a user to be able to specify that he wants
    to use JAM or SQ3 for ALL the areas in that network.

    Andrew

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  • From Avon@21:1/101 to apam on Fri Dec 21 14:47:56 2018
    On 12/21/18, apam pondered and said...

    Are people likely to want different message base formats within the same network? Or would it be ok for a user to be able to specify that he wants to use JAM or SQ3 for ALL the areas in that network.

    I would keep it simple and do the latter..

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  • From Black Panther@21:1/186 to apam on Thu Dec 20 22:02:44 2018
    On 12/21/18, apam said the following...

    Are people likely to want different message base formats within the same network? Or would it be ok for a user to be able to specify that he wants to use JAM or SQ3 for ALL the areas in that network.

    My personal opinion, would be to keep all of the areas the same within the network. I could see wanted to experiment with running both, but having them all the same would be the more efficient way to run them.


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  • From vk3jed@21:1/50 to apam on Fri Dec 21 04:13:00 2018
    On 21-Dec-2018 22:28, apam wrote to All <=-

    Hi

    So I'm wondering about the qwknet and Maginet tools in magicka.

    The config files as they are don't lend themselves to configuring
    specific types of message base per area. I could easily configure a
    format for all the areas, but to do so on a per area basis would
    require a bit of reworking of the config files.

    Are people likely to want different message base formats within the
    same network? Or would it be ok for a user to be able to specify that
    he wants to use JAM or SQ3 for ALL the areas in that network.

    For me, on a practical level - no, but on a logical level, messagebase format should be a property of the message area. Your call. :)


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  • From Tiny@21:1/130.4 to apam on Fri Dec 21 23:35:22 2018
    Quoting apam to All <=-

    Are people likely to want different message base formats within the
    same network? Or would it be ok for a user to be able to specify that

    No. At least I sure wouldn't.

    he wants to use JAM or SQ3 for ALL the areas in that network.

    This would work.

    Shawn

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  • From Blue White@21:1/50 to apam on Fri Dec 21 16:50:06 2018
    Are people likely to want different message base formats within the
    same network? Or would it be ok for a user to be able to specify that
    he wants to use JAM or SQ3 for ALL the areas in that network.

    Aside from testing the new, and maybe adapting it later, I actually can't
    see any benefit to running multiple msg base types on the same BBS. I may
    not be savvy enough to, though. :)


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  • From apam@21:1/125 to Blue White on Sat Dec 22 10:57:47 2018
    Are people likely to want different message base formats within t
    same network? Or would it be ok for a user to be able to specify
    he wants to use JAM or SQ3 for ALL the areas in that network.

    Aside from testing the new, and maybe adapting it later, I actually
    can't see any benefit to running multiple msg base types on the same
    BBS. I may not be savvy enough to, though. :)

    Yeah, there's not really much point. In fact I don't imagine sqlite3
    message bases will see much use as most of us are already using JAM. It's
    there though, it might be a little easier to extend on for those who want
    to.

    I still have to add Maginet support, and that wont likely get done for a
    while as my family are arriving today from interstate to spend some time
    for christmas, so will not likely be doing any programming :)

    Andrew

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  • From apam@21:1/125 to Tiny on Sat Dec 22 10:59:11 2018
    Quoting apam to All <=-

    Are people likely to want different message base formats within t
    same network? Or would it be ok for a user to be able to specify

    No. At least I sure wouldn't.

    he wants to use JAM or SQ3 for ALL the areas in that network.

    This would work.

    Yep, I went for that with QWKnet, magimail you can specify SQ3 for
    individual message bases, but qwk net you can't and maginet you wont be
    able to.

    Andrew

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  • From vk3jed@21:1/50 to Tiny on Sat Dec 22 07:47:47 2018
    On 22-Dec-2018 10:35, Tiny wrote to apam <=-

    he wants to use JAM or SQ3 for ALL the areas in that network.

    This would work.

    I can live with that. :)

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    Haha one is too many for me. :P


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  • From vk3jed@21:1/50 to Blue White on Sat Dec 22 07:55:14 2018
    On 22-Dec-2018 03:50, Blue White wrote to apam <=-

    Are people likely to want different message base formats within the
    same network? Or would it be ok for a user to be able to specify that
    he wants to use JAM or SQ3 for ALL the areas in that network.

    Aside from testing the new, and maybe adapting it later, I actually
    can't see any benefit to running multiple msg base types on the same
    BBS. I may not be savvy enough to, though. :)


    I used to do it out of necessity in the RA days for a couple of reasons:

    1. I started with a Hudson messagebase on RA 1.1, and when I upgraded to RA 2.x, I made all new areas JAM, and progressively migrated old ones from Hudson to JAM, to relieve pressure on the Hudson messagebase.

    2. Some early tossers for RA with JAM capability couldn't use JAM for netmail.

    As netmail was low volume, I just left it in the Hudson messagebase for the life of the BBS. Just about everything other than a number of `low volume echos ended up getting migrated. to JAM eventually.

    These days, a similar situation could arise, because I started with JAM, but might want to use other messagebase formats for newer nets.

    And therein lies a question for apam - would it be possible to have a migration

    utility, so I could migrate existing areas from JAM to another supported format.


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  • From vk3jed@21:1/50 to apam on Sat Dec 22 08:41:15 2018
    On 22-Dec-2018 21:57, apam wrote to Blue White <=-

    I still have to add Maginet support, and that wont likely get done for
    a while as my family are arriving today from interstate to spend some
    time for christmas, so will not likely be doing any programming :)

    Take your time, you've done some great work on Magicka. You deserve some time off to do the Christmas stuff. Enjoy! :)


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  • From apam@21:1/125 to vk3jed on Sat Dec 22 20:51:39 2018
    And therein lies a question for apam - would it be possible to have a migration utility, so I could migrate existing areas from JAM to anoth supported format.

    Yeah it would be a good thing to have.

    Andrew

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  • From apam@21:1/125 to vk3jed on Sat Dec 22 21:13:38 2018
    On 22-Dec-2018 21:57, apam wrote to Blue White <=-

    I still have to add Maginet support, and that wont likely get don
    a while as my family are arriving today from interstate to spend
    time for christmas, so will not likely be doing any programming :

    Take your time, you've done some great work on Magicka. You deserve
    some time off to do the Christmas stuff. Enjoy! :)

    Hehe thanks will do. Though I just found a bug while showing the fat
    sandwich to my brother in law (You know I made this bbs package and this
    is how you send an email with the console, now we can read the email on
    the web.... 404. oops.)

    It's fixed now :)

    Andrew

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  • From Tiny@21:1/130.4 to apam on Sat Dec 22 12:56:04 2018
    Quoting apam to Tiny <=-

    Yep, I went for that with QWKnet, magimail you can specify SQ3 for individual message bases, but qwk net you can't and maginet you wont
    be able to.

    Makes sense.

    Shawn

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  • From Tiny@21:1/130.4 to apam on Sat Dec 22 13:06:04 2018
    Quoting apam to vk3jed <=-

    It's fixed now :)

    That's always the way! I remember showing off my email client back in the
    day and it would /always/ fail when I was showing my mother or a friend in
    person who knew what it was. ;)

    Shawn

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  • From Blue White@21:1/50 to apam on Sat Dec 22 20:48:41 2018
    apam wrote to Blue White <=-

    I still have to add Maginet support, and that wont likely get done for
    a while as my family are arriving today from interstate to spend some
    time for christmas, so will not likely be doing any programming :)

    Merry Christmas!


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  • From apam@21:1/125 to Blue White on Sun Dec 23 15:36:47 2018
    apam wrote to Blue White <=-

    I still have to add Maginet support, and that wont likely get don
    a while as my family are arriving today from interstate to spend
    time for christmas, so will not likely be doing any programming :

    Merry Christmas!

    You too!



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  • From vk3jed@21:1/50 to Tiny on Sun Dec 23 08:05:21 2018
    On 23-Dec-2018 00:06, Tiny wrote to apam <=-

    Quoting apam to vk3jed <=-

    It's fixed now :)

    That's always the way! I remember showing off my email client back
    in the
    day and it would /always/ fail when I was showing my mother or a
    friend in
    person who knew what it was. ;)

    I've had it happen to me too! :D


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  • From vk3jed@21:1/50 to apam on Sun Dec 23 07:50:41 2018
    On 23-Dec-2018 08:13, apam wrote to vk3jed <=-

    Hehe thanks will do. Though I just found a bug while showing the fat sandwich to my brother in law (You know I made this bbs package and
    this is how you send an email with the console, now we can read the
    email on the web.... 404. oops.)

    Hahahaha oops! :D

    It's fixed now :)

    I bet. :)


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  • From vk3jed@21:1/50 to apam on Sun Dec 23 07:49:51 2018
    On 23-Dec-2018 07:51, apam wrote to vk3jed <=-

    And therein lies a question for apam - would it be possible to have a migration utility, so I could migrate existing areas from JAM to anoth supported format.

    Yeah it would be a good thing to have.

    Yeah would be really helpful if we wanted to get off JAM for some reason. :)


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