• 202007140811 link check

    From mark lewis@1:3634/12 to All on Tue Jul 14 08:12:40 2020
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    <sfx>thump! thump!</sfx>

    is this thing on?


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  • From Nick Andre@1:229/426 to Mark Lewis on Tue Jul 14 15:15:18 2020
    On 14 Jul 20 08:12:40, Mark Lewis said the following to All:

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    <sfx>thump! thump!</sfx>

    is this thing on?

    Ya.

    Nick

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  • From mark lewis@1:3634/12 to Nick Andre on Tue Jul 14 15:51:10 2020
    Re: Re: 202007140811 link check
    By: Nick Andre to Mark Lewis on Tue Jul 14 2020 15:15:18


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    <sfx>thump! thump!</sfx>

    is this thing on?

    Ya.

    dallas moved this message to the wrong area from his bad messages area...


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  • From Nick Andre@1:229/426 to Mark Lewis on Tue Jul 14 16:48:19 2020
    On 14 Jul 20 15:51:10, Mark Lewis said the following to Nick Andre:

    is this thing on?

    Ya.

    dallas moved this message to the wrong area from his bad messages area...

    But....................... the question was, if this thing was on.

    8-)

    Nick

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  • From Dallas Hinton@1:153/7715 to mark lewis on Tue Jul 14 14:11:51 2020
    Hi mark -- on Jul 14 2020 at 15:51, you wrote:

    dallas moved this message to the wrong area from his bad messages area...

    You're right -- fumble fingers in the AM! :-) Sorry about that!




    Cheers... Dallas

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  • From mark lewis@1:3634/12 to Nick Andre on Tue Jul 14 17:30:40 2020
    Re: Re: 202007140811 link check
    By: Nick Andre to Mark Lewis on Tue Jul 14 2020 16:48:19


    dallas moved this message to the wrong area from his bad messages area...

    But....................... the question was, if this thing was on.

    LOL

    8-)

    -=B-)


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  • From mark lewis@1:3634/12 to Dallas Hinton on Tue Jul 14 17:31:28 2020
    Re: 202007140811 link check
    By: Dallas Hinton to mark lewis on Tue Jul 14 2020 14:11:51


    dallas moved this message to the wrong area from his bad messages area...

    You're right -- fumble fingers in the AM! :-) Sorry about that!

    Always Remember and Never Forget: no computing before first c0ffee ;)


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  • From Nick Andre@1:229/426 to Mark Lewis on Tue Jul 14 18:17:30 2020
    On 14 Jul 20 17:31:28, Mark Lewis said the following to Dallas Hinton:

    Always Remember and Never Forget: no computing before first c0ffee ;)

    I've seriously told clients and bosses over the years that very statement.

    I don't care if your databases are down or your network is screwed or corporate accounting is completely pooched - I'll get to it once I have a coffee and a morning stretch (and used to be a morning smoke).

    Same thing with corporate emails, oh don't get me started.

    What was presented as a "crisis" to me over 20+ years of IT has almost always been something with a lot of unnecessary emotional baggage attached to it.

    Nick

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  • From Sean Dennis@1:18/200 to mark lewis on Tue Jul 14 18:43:13 2020
    Hello mark,

    Tuesday July 14 2020 17:31, you wrote to Dallas Hinton:

    Always Remember and Never Forget: no computing before first c0ffee ;)

    COFFEE.EXE not found. Halt system?

    Later,
    Sean

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  • From Sean Dennis@1:18/200 to Nick Andre on Tue Jul 14 18:50:18 2020
    Hello Nick,

    Tuesday July 14 2020 18:17, you wrote to Mark Lewis:

    What was presented as a "crisis" to me over 20+ years of IT has almost always been something with a lot of unnecessary emotional baggage
    attached to it.

    "An emergency on your part does not constitute one on mine."

    Later,
    Sean

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  • From Nick Andre@1:229/426 to Sean Dennis on Tue Jul 14 18:57:44 2020
    On 14 Jul 20 18:50:18, Sean Dennis said the following to Nick Andre:

    What was presented as a "crisis" to me over 20+ years of IT has almost always been something with a lot of unnecessary emotional baggage attached to it.

    "An emergency on your part does not constitute one on mine."

    I've been screamed at by someone, seriously screamed at as if I murdered someone, over a corporate email supposedly not being delivered, when in fact it was, it ended up in the receiver's junk-mail folder.

    Upon demonstrating the logs, I always received a humble apology. Oh well you know Nicky, I'm just trying to close this deal and I'm sooooooo stressed out and its not you, its just everyone and everything stressing me out.

    I have a seperate folder in my Outlook with many of these amusing "gems".

    Nick

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  • From Nick Andre@1:229/426 to Sean Dennis on Tue Jul 14 19:07:57 2020
    On 14 Jul 20 18:43:13, Sean Dennis said the following to Mark Lewis:

    Always Remember and Never Forget: no computing before first c0ffee ;)

    COFFEE.EXE not found. Halt system?

    Whatever became of BeOS... wasn't that the OS that instead of debugging information on a halt-condition it actually recited poetry or haiku?

    Nick

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  • From mark lewis@1:3634/12 to Nick Andre on Tue Jul 14 19:12:59 2020
    Re: Re: 202007140811 link check
    By: Nick Andre to Mark Lewis on Tue Jul 14 2020 18:17:30


    What was presented as a "crisis" to me over 20+ years of IT has
    almost always been something with a lot of unnecessary emotional
    baggage attached to it.

    dude! friend! brother! i feel that like it was yesterday...


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  • From mark lewis@1:3634/12 to Sean Dennis on Tue Jul 14 19:14:21 2020
    Re: 202007140811 link check
    By: Sean Dennis to mark lewis on Tue Jul 14 2020 18:43:13


    Always Remember and Never Forget: no computing before first c0ffee ;)

    COFFEE.EXE not found. Halt system?

    should we search for c0ffee instead? [Y/n]


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  • From Sean Dennis@1:18/200 to Nick Andre on Tue Jul 14 19:42:57 2020
    Hello Nick,

    Tuesday July 14 2020 19:07, you wrote to me:

    Whatever became of BeOS... wasn't that the OS that instead of
    debugging information on a halt-condition it actually recited poetry
    or haiku?

    I believe so. Much like AmigaOS and its "guru meditation".

    Later,
    Sean

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  • From Sean Dennis@1:18/200 to Nick Andre on Tue Jul 14 19:43:33 2020
    Hello Nick,

    Tuesday July 14 2020 18:57, you wrote to me:

    I have a seperate folder in my Outlook with many of these amusing
    "gems".

    It's amazing the dirt you get on people working in IT, even if it's not deliberate.

    Later,
    Sean

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  • From Dallas Hinton@1:153/7715 to Nick Andre on Tue Jul 14 18:27:03 2020
    Hi Nick -- on Jul 14 2020 at 18:17, you wrote:

    What was presented as a "crisis" to me over 20+ years of IT has almost
    always
    been something with a lot of unnecessary emotional baggage attached to it.


    "A lack of planning on your part does not necessitate an emergency on mine."

    :-)

    Cheers... Dallas

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  • From Kostie Muirhead@1:342/17 to Sean Dennis on Tue Jul 14 23:52:53 2020
    Re: 202007140811 link check
    By: Sean Dennis to Nick Andre on Tue Jul 14 2020 19:43:33

    It's amazing the dirt you get on people working in IT, even if it's not deliberate.

    As much as I've always tried not to view or pay much attention to client data aside from verifying file integrity, the sheer amount of all manner of Porn that has been thrust in my face when restoring systems over the years is simply astounding.
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  • From Sean Dennis@1:18/200 to Kostie Muirhead on Wed Jul 15 03:15:08 2020
    As much as I've always tried not to view or pay much
    attention to client data
    aside from verifying file integrity, the sheer amount
    of all manner of Porn
    that has been thrust in my face when restoring systems
    over the years is simply
    astounding.

    (Maximus' internal FS editor is weird about word-wrapping.)

    Yes. Well, it's always been like that with me. During the final months of my tour in the US Army, I was the battalion automation assistant. I did security audits of government computers, taught people how to use them: the whole enchilada. You would not believe how much porn I found, even back in 1997-1998, on people's computers.

    There is one story though that was sad to me ... when I was married to my second wife, we had a small apartment that neighbored another with a mentally handicapped man living there. His male nurse who came over frequently became a
    friend to us. He then brought over his laptop one day, saying it was running slow and acting weird.

    So I got into it, cleaning it up, and then I found a "hidden" stash of pictures: it was his wife cheating on him with another woman (found out it was his wife's laptop).

    I did get rid of some malware but I unhid those pictures to where he would find
    them if he poked around.

    Two weeks later, he came over and we got to talking ... he said he was filing for divorce. I didn't ask why but I think he knew that I'd found the pictures and put them into his view, if you will.

    I could have just deleted the pictures but I thought he needed to know.

    I don't feel comfortable trying to make judgement calls like that but that waw not the first nor the last time I've had to do my job and deliver news like that or have to tell my supervisor of what I found.

    One of the reasons I hesitate to go back into that kind of IT work.

    Later,
    Sean


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  • From Nick Andre@1:229/426 to Mark Lewis on Wed Jul 15 09:19:19 2020
    On 14 Jul 20 19:12:59, Mark Lewis said the following to Nick Andre:

    What was presented as a "crisis" to me over 20+ years of IT has
    almost always been something with a lot of unnecessary emotional baggage attached to it.

    dude! friend! brother! i feel that like it was yesterday...

    "Its the computer that's stupid, not you".

    Nick

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  • From Nick Andre@1:229/426 to Sean Dennis on Wed Jul 15 09:20:00 2020
    On 14 Jul 20 19:42:57, Sean Dennis said the following to Nick Andre:

    Whatever became of BeOS... wasn't that the OS that instead of debugging information on a halt-condition it actually recited poetry or haiku?

    I believe so. Much like AmigaOS and its "guru meditation".

    I've always kindof wanted to have an Amiga to mess around on, see what all the fuss was about.

    Nick

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  • From Nick Andre@1:229/426 to Sean Dennis on Wed Jul 15 09:20:57 2020
    On 14 Jul 20 19:43:33, Sean Dennis said the following to Nick Andre:

    I have a seperate folder in my Outlook with many of these amusing "gems".

    It's amazing the dirt you get on people working in IT, even if it's not deliberate.

    After awhile, you begin to realise a pattern...

    Nick

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  • From Nick Andre@1:229/426 to Dallas Hinton on Wed Jul 15 09:21:26 2020
    On 14 Jul 20 18:27:03, Dallas Hinton said the following to Nick Andre:

    What was presented as a "crisis" to me over 20+ years of IT has almost
    always
    been something with a lot of unnecessary emotional baggage attached to it.

    "A lack of planning on your part does not necessitate an emergency on mine.

    Backups? Whats that?

    Nick

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  • From Nick Andre@1:229/426 to Kostie Muirhead on Wed Jul 15 09:25:09 2020
    On 14 Jul 20 23:52:53, Kostie Muirhead said the following to Sean Dennis:

    It's amazing the dirt you get on people working in IT, even if it's no deliberate.

    As much as I've always tried not to view or pay much attention to client da aside from verifying file integrity, the sheer amount of all manner of Porn that has been thrust in my face when restoring systems over the years is si astounding.

    When I worked as a bench-tech in the early 2000's this was almost a daily occurance. Almsot every freaking laptop and desktop dropped off for me to recover or transfer files off of had porn on it.

    Nick

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  • From Nick Andre@1:229/426 to Sean Dennis on Wed Jul 15 09:26:49 2020
    On 15 Jul 20 03:15:08, Sean Dennis said the following to Kostie Muirhead:

    I don't feel comfortable trying to make judgement calls like that but that not the first nor the last time I've had to do my job and deliver news like that or have to tell my supervisor of what I found.

    One of the reasons I hesitate to go back into that kind of IT work.

    I stopped servicing a lot of computers or doing "level one" work as its known because I just got tired of endless complaints and BS, had to move upward career-wise.

    Nick

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  • From Jay Harris@1:229/664.1 to Kostie Muirhead on Wed Jul 15 11:21:43 2020
    *** Quoting Kostie Muirhead from a message to Sean Dennis ***

    As much as I've always tried not to view or pay much attention to
    client data aside from verifying file integrity, the sheer amount of
    all manner of Porn that has been thrust in my face when restoring
    systems over the years is simply astounding.

    I've had a couple of awkward encounters with that as well. One of the maintenance guys asks me to help him with email on his phone, he unlocks his phone & hands it to me. I go about my business entering the server information & what not. I hand the phone to him to enter his password & he hands it back to me. One of us must have hit something that switched it to the next app which was photos, and of course there is a giant cock on the screen.

    I quickly switch back to the settings app without saying a word and finished setting up email.

    When I handed him his phone back you could see that he was uncomfortable, but I didn't say anything.

    Jay

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  • From Sean Dennis@1:18/200 to Jay Harris on Wed Jul 15 15:30:02 2020
    Hello Jay,

    Wednesday July 15 2020 11:21, you wrote to Kostie Muirhead:

    When I handed him his phone back you could see that he was
    uncomfortable, but I didn't say anything.

    Ask him if he likes chicken.

    Later,
    Sean

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  • From Kostie Muirhead@1:342/17 to Nick Andre on Wed Jul 15 14:17:52 2020
    Re: Re: 202007140811 link check
    By: Nick Andre to Dallas Hinton on Wed Jul 15 2020 09:21:26

    Backups? Whats that?

    Oh god, I had a physical reaction to that.
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  • From Nick Andre@1:229/426 to Kostie Muirhead on Wed Jul 15 17:31:33 2020
    On 15 Jul 20 14:17:52, Kostie Muirhead said the following to Nick Andre:

    Backups? Whats that?

    Oh god, I had a physical reaction to that.

    Watch the parents of a teenage boy's reaction when I tell them that their wonderful son overclocked their computer and the estimated cost to repair...

    Nick

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  • From Nick Andre@1:229/426 to Sean Dennis on Wed Jul 15 17:31:50 2020
    On 15 Jul 20 15:30:02, Sean Dennis said the following to Jay Harris:

    When I handed him his phone back you could see that he was uncomfortable, but I didn't say anything.

    Ask him if he likes chicken.

    Or movies about gladiators.

    Nick

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  • From Kostie Muirhead@1:342/17 to Nick Andre on Wed Jul 15 19:21:17 2020
    Re: Re: 202007140811 link check
    By: Nick Andre to Kostie Muirhead on Wed Jul 15 2020 17:31:33

    Watch the parents of a teenage boy's reaction when I tell them that their wonderful son overclocked their computer and the estimated cost to repair...

    Meh, that doesn't have any visceral reaction for me. Then again I've never run into anyone doing any real damage overclocking. Dried out thermal paste and a cooked cpu once or twice, but even that is rare. And i've been away from the consumer and retail scene forever.

    Backups though, I tell you. I've run into enough issues with people refusing to set them up and having inevitable data loss that they're a condition of contract for me these days. I.e. I will not sign you or provide support on more than a one-off basis for your business if you do not have a suitable backup solution and procedures in place.
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  • From Kurt Weiske@1:218/700 to Kostie Muirhead on Thu Jul 16 07:59:00 2020
    Kostie Muirhead wrote to Nick Andre <=-

    Meh, that doesn't have any visceral reaction for me. Then again I've
    never run into anyone doing any real damage overclocking. Dried out thermal paste and a cooked cpu once or twice, but even that is rare.
    And i've been away from the consumer and retail scene forever.


    No overclocking issues. The only issues I've run into are little app
    servers at work that were set up on desktop form-factor PCs, like a
    voicemail box running OS/2 (without a tape drive) and an old
    BSD-based PBX. Both ran just fine for years until the $5 CPU fan
    finally gave up the ghost and cooked the motherboard.

    The PBX was a pain - I needed to find a new motherboard with 6 ISA
    slots, as it used old voice DSP cards and the vendor was out of
    business.

    The VM system outlasted the company it was bought by.



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  • From Kostie Muirhead@1:342/17 to Sean Dennis on Thu Jul 16 15:56:37 2020
    Re: 202007140811 link check
    By: Sean Dennis to Kostie Muirhead on Wed Jul 15 2020 03:15:08

    I don't feel comfortable trying to make judgement calls like that but that waw not the first nor the last time I've had to do my job and deliver news like that or have to tell my supervisor of what I found.

    Yeah. I understand. There's been one or two times that I've caught a filename out of the corner of my eye during a recovery that I felt I had to double check for moral reasons. The last one was a filename in a porn stash that suggested an underage performer, so I couldn't ignore it on the chance there was something really bad going on. I had serious anxiety opening that file and was half trying to look away from the screen while squinting. The gal in said video was very obviously about mid 30s though and just wearing pigtails, so I was immediately relieved.

    But shit like what you ran into is why I actively try not to be aware of what the content of client data is. If all I know about is the data block I'm recovering, I don't have to make any judgement calls about it.
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  • From Kostie Muirhead@1:342/17 to Jay Harris on Thu Jul 16 16:02:02 2020
    Re: Re: 202007140811 link check
    By: Jay Harris to Kostie Muirhead on Wed Jul 15 2020 11:21:43

    I've had a couple of awkward encounters with that as well. One of the
    the next app which was photos, and of course there is a giant cock on the screen.

    Yeah. Back in my retail bench days, I put an all in one system up on the bench that had crashed and wouldn't boot for the user. It was a well known common infection that had hit the guy, and I'd quickly removed the issue and started the system booting to check for other issues. In the meantime, a nice old (likely mid-80s) lady had come up to the service desk to ask for help with something minor. So there I am, trying to help "Mrs Smith" when the system on the bench behind me fires up and picks right back off where it left off - playing a video of a large black man railing a tiny asian woman who was extremely vocal about the ordeal.

    I don't generally embarass or feel awkward, but that day I did.
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  • From Sean Dennis@1:18/200 to Kostie Muirhead on Tue Jul 21 13:03:10 2020
    But shit like what you ran into is why I actively try not to be aware
    of what the content of client data is. If all I know about is the data block I'm recovering, I don't have to make any judgement calls about
    it.

    I agree completely. Thankfully, that incident that I spoke of was back
    in 2006 and I've not run into anything, not even porn, since then.

    I've kinda lost my yen for working in IT. If I do have to go back to
    work in IT, I want to work in a server room where I don't have to deal
    with "customers" that much and can be mostly left alone to do my work.
    That's what I enjoy the most about working in IT. I only turned to
    doing deskside tech work because most of what I did got outsourced to
    India in the 90s.

    Later,
    Sean

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  • From Kurt Weiske@1:218/700 to Sean Dennis on Wed Jul 22 09:41:00 2020
    Sean Dennis wrote to Kostie Muirhead <=-

    I've kinda lost my yen for working in IT. If I do have to go back to
    work in IT, I want to work in a server room where I don't have to deal with "customers" that much and can be mostly left alone to do my work. That's what I enjoy the most about working in IT. I only turned to
    doing deskside tech work because most of what I did got outsourced to India in the 90s.

    Deskside support is great, with the right crowd. I supported teams in
    North America for 10 years at a large worldwide company, and I'm
    pretty good at it. In my current gig I'm a solo IT Manager for a small
    shop that's part of a huge global company, and it's a great gig. Nice
    people who're appreciative of the help they get, enough devops and
    server work to inspire me, and deep pockets from the parent company to
    afford the things we couldn't live without, and enough of a frugal
    mindset to be creative with solutions instead of just throwing money
    at the problem.

    If I look at my job search file, I've probably sent out 300+ resumes
    to get the jobs I have. It's challenging.




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  • From Nick Andre@1:229/426 to Kurt Weiske on Wed Jul 22 21:41:10 2020
    On 22 Jul 20 09:41:00, Kurt Weiske said the following to Sean Dennis:

    Deskside support is great, with the right crowd. I supported teams in
    North America for 10 years at a large worldwide company, and I'm
    pretty good at it. In my current gig I'm a solo IT Manager for a small
    shop that's part of a huge global company, and it's a great gig. Nice

    I've always said to fellow IT friends of mine that its never really the tech work I found to be challenging (in a bad way), it was always the people.

    Nick

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  • From Danny Walters@1:116/116 to Nick Andre on Sun Jul 26 21:15:48 2020
    Nick Andre said to Sean Dennis:

    Whatever became of BeOS... wasn't that the OS that instead of
    debugging information on a halt-condition it actually recited
    poetry or haiku?

    I ran that here for a little while. I think I bought the other copy. I'll give them props, it was fast.


    -dw


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  • From Nick Andre@1:229/426 to Danny Walters on Fri Jul 31 10:11:39 2020
    On 26 Jul 20 21:15:48, Danny Walters said the following to Nick Andre:

    Whatever became of BeOS... wasn't that the OS that instead of debugging information on a halt-condition it actually recited
    poetry or haiku?

    I ran that here for a little while. I think I bought the other copy. I'll give them props, it was fast.

    I heard from others that it really was an underrated OS in many ways.

    Nick

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  • From Jeff Smith@1:282/1031 to Nick Andre on Mon Aug 3 02:16:40 2020
    Hello Nick!

    31 Jul 20 10:11, you wrote to Danny Walters:

    On 26 Jul 20 21:15:48, Danny Walters said the following to Nick
    Andre:

    Whatever became of BeOS... wasn't that the OS that instead of
    debugging information on a halt-condition it actually
    recited
    poetry or haiku?

    I ran that here for a little while. I think I bought the other
    copy. I'll give them props, it was fast.

    I heard from others that it really was an underrated OS in many ways.

    I ran BEOS for a short time in the early to mid 90's. At the time I
    thought it had potential as an alternative to MacOS and Windows of that
    time. I opted though for a more Debian based Linux OS as BEOS seemed
    somewhat limited to running software only written for BEOS.

    Jeff


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  • From Danny Walters@1:116/116 to Jeff Smith on Wed Sep 2 13:23:43 2020
    Jeff Smith said to Nick Andre:

    I opted though for a more Debian based Linux OS as BEOS
    seemed somewhat limited to running software only written for BEOS.

    My memory is very fuzzy on the subject, but I seem to recall that a lot of linux packages would build on the BeOs compiler with little to no changes. I remember very vaguely building a couple of simple things successfully, I could not begin to tell you how.

    I had high hopes for it actually.

    -dw


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