top - 02:53:43 up 27 days, 12:08, 1 user, load average: 60.40, 26.47, 11.08 Tasks: 5 total, 0 running, 5 sleeping, 0 stopped, 0 zombie
%Cpu(s): 0.8 us, 92.5 sy, 0.0 ni, 0.0 id, 0.4 wa, 0.0 hi, 3.9 si, 2.4 st MiB Mem : 3915.3 total, 86.0 free, 3915.2 used, 74.8 buff/cache
MiB Swap: 2048.0 total, 0.2 free, 2047.8 used. 0.1 avail Mem

PID USER PR NI VIRT RES SHR S %CPU %MEM TIME+ COMMAND 2380194 bbs 20 0 4914476 2.5g 6784 S 124.4 66.6 17,07 /sbbs/exec/sbbs w! d
2380192 bbs 20 0 2603052 458636 6656 S 70.7 11.4 10,11 /sbbs/exec/sbbs s! d
2380185 bbs 20 0 2398016 215688 6272 S 8.8 5.4 66:23.37 /sbbs/exec/sbbs t! d
2380183 bbs 20 0 1075500 15920 6272 S 1.7 0.4 1:48.39 /sbbs/exec/sbbs m! d
2380184 bbs 20 0 534820 11744 6144 S 1.1 0.3 0:43.03 /sbbs/exec/sbbs f! d

124% cpu is nothing unusual. I have 4 cpus. There's no real reason for the system to behitting a 60 load average.

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Re: I don't get it
By: nelgin to All on Mon Jun 23 2025 02:55 am

top - 02:53:43 up 27 days, 12:08, 1 user, load average: 60.40, 26.47, 11.08 Tasks: 5 total, 0 running, 5 sleeping, 0 stopped, 0 zombie %Cpu(s): 0.8 us, 92.5 sy, 0.0 ni, 0.0 id, 0.4 wa, 0.0 hi, 3.9 si, 2.4 st MiB Mem : 3915.3 total, 86.0 free, 3915.2 used, 74.8 buff/cache
MiB Swap: 2048.0 total, 0.2 free, 2047.8 used. 0.1 avail Mem

PID USER PR NI VIRT RES SHR S %CPU %MEM TIME+ COMMAND 2380194 bbs 20 0 4914476 2.5g 6784 S 124.4 66.6
17,07 /sbbs/exec/sbbs w! d
2380192 bbs 20 0 2603052 458636 6656 S 70.7 11.4 10,11 /sbbs/exec/sbbs s! d
2380185 bbs 20 0 2398016 215688 6272 S 8.8 5.4 66:23.37 /sbbs/exec/sbbs t! d
2380183 bbs 20 0 1075500 15920 6272 S 1.7 0.4 1:48.39 /sbbs/exec/sbbs m! d
2380184 bbs 20 0 534820 11744 6144 S 1.1 0.3 0:43.03 /sbbs/exec/sbbs f! d

124% cpu is nothing unusual. I have 4 cpus. There's no real reason for the system to behitting a 60 load average.

With 4 CPUs, a load average of 4.0 indicates that all 4 CPUs are at 100% capacity. The 60 indicates that there are a *LOT* of process waiting for their turn in the queue for CPU attention. It's almost not possible to be that overloaded. Better check the cooling system on those CPUs...

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Re: I don't get it
By: nelgin to All on Mon Jun 23 2025 02:55 am

top - 02:53:43 up 27 days, 12:08, 1 user, load average: 60.40, 26.47, 11.0 Tasks: 5 total, 0 running, 5 sleeping, 0 stopped, 0 zombie %Cpu(s): 0.8 us, 92.5 sy, 0.0 ni, 0.0 id, 0.4 wa, 0.0 hi, 3.9 si, 2.4 MiB Mem : 3915.3 total, 86.0 free, 3915.2 used, 74.8 buff/cache MiB Swap: 2048.0 total, 0.2 free, 2047.8 used. 0.1 avail Mem

PID USER PR NI VIRT RES SHR S %CPU %MEM TIME+ COMMA 2380194 bbs 20 0 4914476 2.5g 6784 S 124.4 66.6 17,07 /sbbs/exec/sbbs w! d
2380192 bbs 20 0 2603052 458636 6656 S 70.7 11.4 10,11 /sbbs/exec/sbbs s! d
2380185 bbs 20 0 2398016 215688 6272 S 8.8 5.4 66:23.37 /sbbs/exec/sbbs t! d
2380183 bbs 20 0 1075500 15920 6272 S 1.7 0.4 1:48.39 /sbbs/exec/sbbs m! d
2380184 bbs 20 0 534820 11744 6144 S 1.1 0.3 0:43.03 /sbbs/exec/sbbs f! d

124% cpu is nothing unusual. I have 4 cpus. There's no real reason for the system to behitting a 60 load average.

Mine does that off and on during the day when HTML traffic picks up. I have a variable speed cooling fan and I can tell when traffic picks up because it runs faster. LOL Especially when people are reading message boards like fidonet on my BBS. WOW it tops out at 80% sometimes. I am running my BBS on a 15 year old laptop though.
telnet://ricksbbs.synchro.net:23
http://ricksbbs.synchro.net:8080
Madison,NC

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Re: I don't get it
By: Gamgee to nelgin on Mon Jun 23 2025 07:52 am

Howdy,

top - 02:53:43 up 27 days, 12:08, 1 user, load average: 60.40, 26.47,

124% cpu is nothing unusual. I have 4 cpus. There's no real reason for the system to behitting a 60 load average.

With 4 CPUs, a load average of 4.0 indicates that all 4 CPUs are at 100% capacity. The 60 indicates that there are a *LOT* of process waiting for their turn in the queue for CPU attention. It's almost not possible to be that overloaded. Better check the cooling system on those CPUs...

Actually not completely accurate.

The load average is a measure of processes who "didnt" get the CPU when they were scheduled to use it. Its possible to have load average above number of CPUs, because of other reasons - the most common I've seen is disk I/O (and the CPU's could be fairly idle).

Given your swap is full, and your memory utilisation is high, I'm guessing your system is thrashing - spending too much time swapping memory pages in and out (for the processes that want to run), only to swap them back out again when that processes time is up - causing that process (or the next one) to miss it's CPU time slot.

Your load average can also climb high because of disk errors, where the kernel spends too much time on a blocked read (I/O error), and thus scheduled processes miss their slot.


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Re: I don't get it
By: nelgin to Rixter on Mon Jun 23 2025 11:50 am

Re: I don't get it
By: Rixter to nelgin on Mon Jun 23 2025 07:51:01

Mine does that off and on during the day when HTML traffic picks up. I ha a variable speed cooling fan and I can tell when traffic picks up because runs faster. LOL Especially when people are reading message boards like fidonet on my BBS. WOW it tops out at 80% sometimes. I am running my BBS a 15 year old laptop though.

I have restrictions on the amount of traffic via iptables so it shouldn't be problem. I guess I'll have to double check to make sure they're actually effective.

I have guests log in via nntp and download messages from all the message bases once a week and that can be hours of traffic just doing that. I guess some people love messages. They cannot reply to them but they download all of them twice a week. My Computer will just ramp up like that out of the blue several times a day likes it is real busy even when no one is signed in. Ghost users! LOL
telnet://ricksbbs.synchro.net:23
http://ricksbbs.synchro.net:8080
Madison,NC

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Re: I don't get it
By: Rixter to nelgin on Tue Jun 24 2025 07:13:31

I have guests log in via nntp and download messages from all the message bases once a week and that can be hours of traffic just doing that. I guess some people love messages. They cannot reply to them but they download all of them twice a week. My Computer will just ramp up like that out of the blue several times a day likes it is real busy even when no one is signed in. Ghost users! LOL

I don't have any problem with services, it's just the web server.

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