• Re: Immortal Barons can now read DOORDROP.INI

    From Dumas Walker@1:103/705 to MRO on Fri Nov 6 21:31:00 2026
    Re: Re: Immortal Barons can now read DOORDROP.INI
    By: Andy Alt to MRO on Thu Nov 05 2026 08:31 am

    MRO wrote to Andy Alt on 11/04/2026 13:17 <=-

    btw, looks like your program needs work. functional and
    visual wise.
    i downloaded it and it was missing files.

    I'd need more specific information or a couple specific
    examples. It's running in two test leagues and set up for
    local play on several BBBses. I haven't noticed, and no one
    has reported, any major issues like what you're describing.


    https://i.imgur.com/GDm8aWd.png

    Looks like you might need to run:

    immortal-barons -reset -data /path/to/data

    as described in the door-setup.md file.

    That is how I got world.json generated here.


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  • From Andy Alt@1:103/705 to MRO on Fri Nov 6 09:20:34 2026
    Subject: Re: Immortal Barons can now read DOORDROP.INI

    MRO wrote to Andy Alt on 11/06/2026 02:30 <=-

    Re: Re: Immortal Barons can now read DOORDROP.INI
    By: Andy Alt to MRO on Thu Nov 05 2026 08:31 am

    MRO wrote to Andy Alt on 11/04/2026 13:17 <=-

    btw, looks like your program needs work. functional and visual wise.
    i downloaded it and it was missing files.

    I'd need more specific information or a couple specific examples.
    It's running in two test leagues and set up for local play on
    several BBBses. I haven't noticed, and no one has reported,
    any major issues like what you're describing.


    https://i.imgur.com/GDm8aWd.png

    The data directory gets created when you initialize the game with a reset.

    The first time setup guide is at https://andy5995.github.io/immortal-barons/door-setup/#what-you-need or docs/door-setup.md of the immortal-barons-v0.2.8-windows-386.zip archive.

    Note The ib-sysop archive only has the gui sysop "control panel". It can do quite a bit, but can't do a reset, because it needs a data directory first.

    The game itself is in the immortal-barons-v0.2.8... archive.

    The ib-sysop program is a front-end for the immortal-barons binary. It looks for it

    1. The folder ib-sysop itself is in.
    2. Your PATH.
    3. If neither has it, whatever path you type into the Program box on the Run view.

    Thank you for the report, MRO. I've updated the docs to be more clear, and changed the message in the panel for that case.

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  • From Martin Kazmaier@1:340/1101 to MRO on Fri Nov 6 20:10:00 2026
    Don't forget to reset and set the drop file!

    Shurato
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  • From Digital Man@1:103/705 to MRO on Fri Nov 6 17:57:14 2026
    Re: Immortal Barons can now read DOORDROP.INI
    By: MRO to Andy Alt on Wed Nov 04 2026 01:17 pm

    thats good but we don't need a new dropfile other than door.sys and door32.sys

    There's a lot of stuff missing from those (and all other legacy) drop file formats (e.g. SSH support).
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  • From MRO@1:103/705 to Dumas Walker on Sun Nov 8 01:24:12 2026
    Re: Re: Immortal Barons can now read DOORDROP.INI
    By: Dumas Walker to MRO on Fri Nov 06 2026 09:31 pm


    Looks like you might need to run:

    immortal-barons -reset -data /path/to/data

    as described in the door-setup.md file.

    That is how I got world.json generated here.

    i dont have any door-setup.md file. i have the executable and that's it.

    why cant the game just set it up? why do i have to provide a path to data?
    what data?

    why do i need to reset it? reset what?
    i never ran it so there's nothing to reset.
    just seems sloppy and not worth my time.


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  • From MRO@1:103/705 to Andy Alt on Sun Nov 8 01:27:20 2026
    Re: Re: Immortal Barons can now read DOORDROP.INI
    By: Andy Alt to MRO on Fri Nov 06 2026 09:20 am

    I'd need more specific information or a couple specific examples.
    It's running in two test leagues and set up for local play on
    several BBBses. I haven't noticed, and no one has reported, any
    major issues like what you're describing.


    https://i.imgur.com/GDm8aWd.png

    The data directory gets created when you initialize the game with
    a reset.

    The first time setup guide is at https://andy5995.github.io /immortal-barons/door-setup/#what-you-need or docs/door-setup.md
    of the immortal-barons-v0.2.8-windows-386.zip
    archive.

    Note The ib-sysop archive only has the gui sysop "control panel".
    It can do quite a bit, but can't do a reset, because it needs a
    data directory first.

    The game itself is in the immortal-barons-v0.2.8... archive.

    The ib-sysop program is a front-end for the immortal-barons binary.
    It looks for it

    1. The folder ib-sysop itself is in. 2. Your PATH. 3. If neither
    has it, whatever path you type into the Program box on the Run view.

    Thank you for the report, MRO. I've updated the docs to be more
    clear, and changed the message in the panel for that case.



    dude why do i have to jump through these hoops for a doorgame.
    i download the release archive off github and i have one executable ib-sysop.exe.

    why arent your docs in the release archive.
    why don't you have an install program?
    why is there a front end for another binary?

    seems convoluted.


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  • From MRO@1:103/705 to Digital Man on Sun Nov 8 01:49:09 2026
    Re: Immortal Barons can now read DOORDROP.INI
    By: Digital Man to MRO on Fri Nov 06 2026 05:57 pm

    Re: Immortal Barons can now read DOORDROP.INI
    By: MRO to Andy Alt on Wed Nov 04 2026 01:17 pm

    thats good but we don't need a new dropfile other than door.sys
    and door32.sys

    There's a lot of stuff missing from those (and all other legacy)
    drop file formats (e.g. SSH support).

    Well i'm able to run 16 bit and 32bit doorgames. that works for me.

    This just seems like overkill and overthought. It's a bit much.
    I don't feel you need all this stuff in a dropfile. i'm looking at your
    spec now.

    do what you want, though. time will tell.


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  • From Esc@1:103/705 to MRO on Sun Nov 8 01:10:29 2026
    MRO wrote:
    dude why do i have to jump through these hoops for a doorgame.
    i download the release archive off github and i have one executable ib-sysop.exe.

    Did you read the name of the package you were downloading? There are two packages. ib-sysop isn't the game, immortal barons is the game and the archive calls it that.

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  • From MRO@1:103/705 to Esc on Sun Nov 8 05:10:55 2026
    Re: Re: Immortal Barons can now read DOORDROP.INI
    By: Esc to MRO on Sun Nov 08 2026 01:10 am

    MRO wrote:
    dude why do i have to jump through these hoops for a doorgame. i download the release archive off github and i have one executable ib-sysop.exe.

    Did you read the name of the package you were downloading? There are
    two packages. ib-sysop isn't the game, immortal barons is the game
    and the archive calls it that.

    -esc



    I followed his link and i clicked latest release or whatever on the right. sounds retarded to me. why would there be one program calling another?

    I'm not interested in it.
    Looks like a convoluted and a ridiculous setup.

    This is made in ai and STILL there's this crazy stuff
    you have to do just to get it running?


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  • From Dumas Walker@1:103/705 to MRO on Sun Nov 8 20:20:00 2026
    Looks like you might need to run:

    immortal-barons -reset -data /path/to/data

    as described in the door-setup.md file.

    That is how I got world.json generated here.

    i dont have any door-setup.md file. i have the executable and
    that's it.

    why cant the game just set it up? why do i have to provide a
    path to data? what data?

    why do i need to reset it? reset what?
    i never ran it so there's nothing to reset.
    just seems sloppy and not worth my time.

    Many doors games, even from back in the day, required the sysop to run something to initialize the game before running it the first time.

    If you just got the package with an executable, it sounds like maybe you got the sysop utility archive and not the door archive. I don't use the sysop utility but did download it by mistake and the archive only has one program in it. The door archive had a directory with all of the *.md files in it, as well as the door executable and some other files.



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