• Tariff Rebates

    From Aaron Thomas@1:342/201 to All on Sun Mar 8 11:36:48 2026
    Back in November, the Trump administration discussed the possibility of sending $2000 to each American taxpayer this summer, with money saved from the administration's reciprocal tariffs.

    However, Democrats don't want Americans to enjoy the benefit of having a president who stands up for them. Furthermore, they don't want us to be thankful to the Trump administration for a pile of cash in our hands.

    So they do what's logical: they get their monkeys to demand that the money be given back to the foreign corporations (some state-owned) that it was extracted from, while we continue to pay the prices that result from the tariffs that they impose on us.

    (Thanks a lot Democrats)

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  • From Mike Miller@1:154/30 to Aaron Thomas on Sun Mar 8 14:12:42 2026
    Hello Aaron!

    08 Jun 70 02:41, you wrote to all:

    Back in November, the Trump administration discussed the possibility
    of sending $2000 to each American taxpayer this summer, with money
    saved from the administration's reciprocal tariffs.

    However, Democrats don't want Americans to enjoy the benefit of having
    a president who stands up for them. Furthermore, they don't want us to
    be thankful to the Trump administration for a pile of cash in our
    hands.

    So they do what's logical: they get their monkeys to demand that the
    money be given back to the foreign corporations (some state-owned)
    that it was extracted from, while we continue to pay the prices that result from the tariffs that they impose on us.

    (Thanks a lot Democrats)


    I see, even after all this time, that you still have no idea how tarrifs work.



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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:342/201 to Mike Miller on Sun Mar 8 14:31:02 2026
    So they do what's logical: they get their monkeys to demand that the money be given back to the foreign corporations (some state-owned) that it was extracted from, while we continue to pay the prices that result from the tariffs that they impose on us.

    (Thanks a lot Democrats)


    I see, even after all this time, that you still have no idea how
    tarrifs work.

    The US gov collected more than 200 billion dollars from tariffs. It didn't cost me a penny. It hurt foreign corporations the most and now Obama's sons want to compensate them for it.

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  • From Matt Munson@1:103/705 to Aaron Thomas on Sun Mar 8 17:21:50 2026
    Re: Re: Tariff Rebates
    By: Aaron Thomas to Mike Miller on Sun Mar 08 2026 02:31 pm

    The US gov collected more than 200 billion dollars from tariffs. It didn't cost me a penny. It hurt foreign corporations the most and now Obama's sons want to compensate them for it.
    It is ironic that Democrats are even againt using the funds to help pay for the extended ACA subsidies.
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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:342/201 to Matt Munson on Sun Mar 8 20:27:54 2026
    The US gov collected more than 200 billion dollars from tariffs. It d cost me a penny. It hurt foreign corporations the most and now Obama' sons want to compensate them for it.
    It is ironic that Democrats are even againt using the funds to help pay for the extended ACA subsidies.

    This could mean only one thing: they have deals on the table with the foreign companies who lost due to the tariffs. "Get us our money and we'll share it with you."

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  • From Ron L.@1:120/616 to Aaron Thomas on Mon Mar 9 07:20:47 2026
    Aaron Thomas wrote to All <=-

    So they do what's logical: they get their monkeys to demand that the
    money be given back to the foreign corporations (some state-owned) that
    it was extracted from, while we continue to pay the prices that result from the tariffs that they impose on us.

    (Thanks a lot Democrats)

    The Democrats have long shown that they are the Enemy of the People.

    IHMO: The money should go to paying off the national debt.


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  • From Brent Hendricks@1:135/250 to Aaron Thomas on Mon Mar 9 10:19:05 2026
    On Sun 8-Mar-2026 2:31p, Aaron Thomas@1:342/201.0 said to Mike Miller:

    The US gov collected more than 200 billion dollars from tariffs. It didn't cost me a penny. It hurt foreign corporations the most and now Obama's
    sons want to compensate them for it.

    The cost of the tarrifs was not paid by the foreign manufactures and was passed down to US consumers.

    The only way tarrifs would not affect US consumers is if US manufacturing was ready to step in an produce the same products here on US soil, which it has not bee able to do since the late 1980's. It would take several decades for US manufactuing to move that capability back to the USA, and even then the cost of labor alone would be prohibitive.

    This doesn't even touch the fact that SCOTUS deemed the tariffs illegal.

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:342/201 to Ron L. on Mon Mar 9 09:05:54 2026
    So they do what's logical: they get their monkeys to demand that the money be given back to the foreign corporations (some state-owned) th it was extracted from, while we continue to pay the prices that resul from the tariffs that they impose on us.

    (Thanks a lot Democrats)

    The Democrats have long shown that they are the Enemy of the People.

    IHMO: The money should go to paying off the national debt.

    That's the most responsible thing to do, but look at the concept that Trump could create for voters: "MAGA politicians put $2000 in my pocket."

    Plus it has the potential to make them start to think "F other countries, I like Trump, I like tariffs, I like $2000, and I like America First."

    Not like we need more votes, but the more the merrier.

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:342/201 to Brent Hendricks on Mon Mar 9 09:17:42 2026
    The US gov collected more than 200 billion dollars from tariffs. It di cost me a penny. It hurt foreign corporations the most and now Obama's sons want to compensate them for it.

    The cost of the tarrifs was not paid by the foreign manufactures and was passed down to US consumers.

    I hear what you're saying, and I hear the media saying the same thing, but hearing and seeing are 2 different things. Prices on things that I buy haven't
    gone up since Trump took office, and my electric bill went down.

    The only way tarrifs would not affect US consumers is if US
    manufacturing was ready to step in an produce the same products here on
    US soil, which it has not bee able to do since the late 1980's. It
    would take several decades for US manufactuing to move that capability back to the USA, and even then the cost of labor alone would be prohibitive.

    I just don't see it. Someone said "cellphones will quadruple in price" and I just got a Samsung Galaxy A17 for free from Tmobile. What are you buying? Lamborghinis? Rack servers? Toys with lead paint?

    This doesn't even touch the fact that SCOTUS deemed the tariffs illegal.

    But the money has already been banked, and new tariffs went into affect just a few days after their ruling.

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  • From IB Joe@1:342/201 to Brent Hendricks on Mon Mar 9 13:11:42 2026
    On 09 Mar 2026, Brent Hendricks said the following...


    This doesn't even touch the fact that SCOTUS deemed the tariffs illegal.


    In the manner he did it... The SCOTUS in their decision was sooooooooo narrow it gave him other ways to do the same thing.

    Tariffs are still going and if Trump has his way he'll cut income tax for those under 200K.

    Tariffs were the only way the US collected money prior to 1913 with the 16th Amendment added to the books.

    Tariffs good, taxing the working class bad.

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  • From Brent Hendricks@1:135/250 to Ib Joe on Mon Mar 9 20:55:08 2026
    On Mon 9-Mar-2026 1:11p, Ib Joe@1:342/201.0 said to Brent Hendricks:
    On 09 Mar 2026, Brent Hendricks said the following...


    This doesn't even touch the fact that SCOTUS deemed the tariffs
    illegal.


    In the manner he did it... The SCOTUS in their decision was sooooooooo narrow it gave him other ways to do the same thing.

    Well we almost agree on something.

    "In the manner he did it.."

    Under the U.S. Constitution (Article I, Section 8), Congress holds the primary power to lay and collect tariffs, duties, and imposts"

    The executive branch doesn't have the authority to levy tarrifs. FULL STOP.

    It wasn't SCOTUS that narrowly interpreted it, it is one of the places the constitution is incedibly narrow, and unfortunately anotehr area congress has largely abdicated it's authority, removing checks and balances.


    Tariffs are still going and if Trump has his way he'll cut income tax for those under 200K.

    LOL, sure just like. DOGE Checks $5,000 (He claims he didn't say it, but we all know he mouthpieces don't speak without his blessing, and he endorsed it on national television. When in fact it was never seriously proposed to congress by the administration. Lower price of groceries, lower energy prices.

    Not only do all of the experts say this is impossible due to bad math, but Trump himself doesn't even rememeber making the promise of rebate checks, "I did do that? When did I do that?"

    Tariffs were the only way the US collected money prior to 1913 with the 16th Amendment added to the books.

    Gee any why did we do that? Because tariffs weren't an adequate income source, because the importation of goods actually limmits the money those goods can generate, and it unduely burdens the consumers, while bennifiting those with wealth..

    Believing anything that comes out of the Trump administration at this point is like beliving that the narcacist you are in a relationship with is willing to change.

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  • From Ron L.@1:120/616 to Aaron Thomas on Tue Mar 10 07:18:23 2026
    Aaron Thomas wrote to Dr. What <=-

    That's the most responsible thing to do, but look at the concept that Trump could create for voters: "MAGA politicians put $2000 in my
    pocket."

    Plus it has the potential to make them start to think "F other
    countries, I like Trump, I like tariffs, I like $2000, and I like
    America First."

    Not like we need more votes, but the more the merrier.

    We need more votes now to counter the fake/illegal votes that the Democrats create.

    I just saw Chuck Schumer admit that 20 million illegals voted in the last election.


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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:342/201 to Ron L. on Tue Mar 10 06:21:22 2026
    We need more votes now to counter the fake/illegal votes that the Democrats create.

    I just saw Chuck Schumer admit that 20 million illegals voted in the last election.

    That's weird that he admitted to it. Is he proud of himself? lol

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  • From IB Joe@1:342/201 to Brent Hendricks on Tue Mar 10 10:30:44 2026
    On 09 Mar 2026, Brent Hendricks said the following...


    Well we almost agree on something.

    "In the manner he did it.."

    Under the U.S. Constitution (Article I, Section 8), Congress holds the primary power to lay and collect tariffs, duties, and imposts"

    The executive branch doesn't have the authority to levy tarrifs. FULL STOP.

    It wasn't SCOTUS that narrowly interpreted it, it is one of the places
    the constitution is incedibly narrow, and unfortunately anotehr area congress has largely abdicated it's authority, removing checks and balances.


    Sure, what you said is almost true. The methods Trump is now using to collect tariffs have been tested by the courts already and the Dems have no recourse.

    The methods he uses NOW, post SCOTUS, has been tested.

    Trump is trying to bring back manufacturing for the working class. Hyundai is an example of this... They are moving a manufacturing plant to the US to avoid tariffs and in exchange they employ Americans (Working Class) and everyone has a warm fuzzy feeling.

    BTW, one of Canada's premiere Whiskeys moves to the US, it pissed off Doug Ford, Crown Royal wanted cheaper taxes and less regulations so it moved to a country who is who's system is pro growth.

    His efforts are to bring home manufacturing to help the US workers and economy and he wants to eliminate income tax for the less well to do. Cut him some slack.


    LOL, sure just like. DOGE Checks $5,000 (He claims he didn't say it, but we all know he mouthpieces don't speak without his blessing, and he endorsed it on national television. When in fact it was never seriously proposed to congress by the administration. Lower price of groceries, lower energy prices.

    Not only do all of the experts say this is impossible due to bad math,
    but Trump himself doesn't even rememeber making the promise of rebate checks, "I did do that? When did I do that?"


    All of the experts??


    Gee any why did we do that? Because tariffs weren't an adequate income source, because the importation of goods actually limmits the money
    those goods can generate, and it unduely burdens the consumers, while bennifiting those with wealth..

    Believing anything that comes out of the Trump administration at this point is like beliving that the narcacist you are in a relationship with is willing to change.


    What you just said was not true... Tariff income prior to 1913 was sufficient, more than enough. There were Blue Ribbon groups setup on how to spend the excess.

    We don't have a income problem in the US we have a spending problem.

    I'm for small government. I'm for way less spending. WAY WAY LESS.

    Trump says he can balance the budget after he exposes all the fraud.

    This is good!!! I think he should focus on the debt and spending before he sends out any money to anyone.

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  • From Ron L.@1:120/616 to Aaron Thomas on Wed Mar 11 07:17:31 2026
    Aaron Thomas wrote to Dr. What <=-

    I just saw Chuck Schumer admit that 20 million illegals voted in the last election.

    That's weird that he admitted to it. Is he proud of himself? lol

    He probably fired the staffer who wrote it for him.


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  • From Ron L.@1:120/616 to IB Joe on Wed Mar 11 07:17:31 2026
    IB Joe wrote to Brent Hendricks <=-

    Cut him some slack.

    The Rat has TDS, so he can't cut Trump any slack.

    All of the experts??

    All the ones he knows. You know, the experts who are out, standing in their fields.

    What you just said was not true... Tariff income prior to 1913 was sufficient, more than enough. There were Blue Ribbon groups setup on
    how to spend the excess.

    History is not a TDS sufferer's strong point.

    We don't have a income problem in the US we have a spending problem.

    Which is tied to the fraud problem.

    I'm for small government. I'm for way less spending. WAY WAY LESS.

    But how will the Elitists dictate how we should spend the money we earn?

    Trump says he can balance the budget after he exposes all the fraud.

    I think there's a good chance of that. Heck, after the fraud is gone, I think we will end up not paying federal taxes either.


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  • From IB Joe@1:342/201 to Brent Hendricks on Wed Mar 11 15:27:12 2026
    On 09 Mar 2026, Brent Hendricks said the following...


    Gee any why did we do that? Because tariffs weren't an adequate income source, because the importation of goods actually limmits the money
    those goods can generate, and it unduely burdens the consumers, while bennifiting those with wealth..


    Debt in 1923
    In 1923, the total U.S. national debt was approximately
    $22.3 billion. Following the end of World War I, the federal government maintained a policy of fiscal restraint, leading to a significant reduction in debt from its 1919 peak of billion. This era was marked by efforts to manage war-related debts, including creating the War Debt Commission in 1922 to negotiate repayment plans with allies.

    Revenue in 1922
    Overview: Federal revenue for the fiscal year ending June 30, 1923, was $2,621,745,227. This marked a decrease from 1922, largely driven by tax reductions and economic adjustments, with income/profits taxes contributing $1,689,159,917 of the total. Total federal, state, and local revenue for 1923 was $64.86 per capita, or $6.83 billion total.

    Interesting eh!!!!

    Total Federal Revenue: $2,621,745,227.

    Income & Profits Tax: $1,689,159,917.


    Interesting... we had a surplus and a small debt and the debt at the time was over WWI... The cost of the war plus rebuilding parts of Europe.

    Back in the day JP Morgan lent the Government money and the citizens were so pissed they demanded that they pay the debt off and were told never do it again.

    Or good friend @RonL will tell you that the Elites wanted The Federal Reserve and the Income Tax Act to be passed so that the Elites can enrich themselves.

    Now in 2026 We are TRILLION AND TRILLIONS in debt. Prior to the 2024 election the only sector creating jobs was the government.

    Now we have factories moving back to the US and the private sector creates the jobs.

    I'm not waiting around the mail box for a check. I'd rather the debt be paid down for my children' sake.

    Trump has paused Illegal immigration, I am/was a migrant at one time... I did it legally and and feel everyone else should do the same.

    you make a lot of assumptions... STOP that...

    K, back to reality!!!!

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  • From IB Joe@1:342/201 to Ron L. on Wed Mar 11 17:07:14 2026
    On 11 Mar 2026, Ron L. said the following...


    The Rat has TDS, so he can't cut Trump any slack.


    I heard there's a pill for that now...


    All the ones he knows. You know, the experts who are out, standing in their fields.


    Left field


    History is not a TDS sufferer's strong point.


    I sent him a message today... Google is great... We were in a HUGE surplus back then. We had a small debt, mainly because of WWI and America probably was responsible for rebuilding Europe at the time.

    -=Sarcasm=-


    I think there's a good chance of that. Heck, after the fraud is gone, I think we will end up not paying federal taxes either.


    We need to dig dig dig and find all the corruption and fraud.

    That and insider trading!!!

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