IB Joe wrote to Kurt Weiske <=-

This is something Liberals do... Recall Gavin took the 100 million dollars raised for the victims of the LA fires... Gavin gave it to a bunch of NGOs that had NOTHING to do with fires and or victims. One of the NGOs mandate was to get aboriginals to vote...

No Victims of the LA fires received any money at all.

This seems to be the norm for Elitists.

Trump sent over millions to help with the damage here in Michigan from ice storms like 6 months ago. Our Tyrant..er. Governor couldn't get off her lazy rear to help (this area doesn't vote Democrat).

But the money is tied up at the state level because our Tyrant doesn't want those people to get it, and she wants it for her buddies.


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On 06 Aug 2025, Ron L. said the following...

This seems to be the norm for Elitists.

Trump sent over millions to help with the damage here in Michigan from
ice storms like 6 months ago. Our Tyrant..er. Governor couldn't get off her lazy rear to help (this area doesn't vote Democrat).

But the money is tied up at the state level because our Tyrant doesn't want those people to get it, and she wants it for her buddies.

My response here was to someone who believes that people will die if USAID is shut down... They were talking about expense of managing the funds at USAID and possible expenses at the NGOs as being some needed evil.

USAID was shut down because ~90% of the money leaving it could not be accounted for and that the NGOs chosen were dubious, at best, but linked back to the Democrat party.

Since Trump stopped these illegal uses of taxpayer money the DNC has no money in their war chest.

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IB Joe wrote to Dr. What <=-

My response here was to someone who believes that people will die if
USAID is shut down... They were talking about expense of managing the funds at USAID and possible expenses at the NGOs as being some needed evil.

This is a variation of the Elitist play of
+ Wrap a fact in a false Narrative
+ When people point out the false Narrative
+ Point to the fact and call them 'deniers'.

In this case, some of that NGO money **was** going to humanitarian needs (i.e. the fact) but, as you correctly point out, ~90% was not. So we end USAID, we defund the NGOs, and that <10% spent on humanitarian needs will be gone and "people will die".

$20 says that an actual humanitarian charity will step in and do it. But we'll never hear about that.

Since Trump stopped these illegal uses of taxpayer money the DNC has no money in their war chest.

Ya, funny how all these Woke causes are dieing now that the gov't funding has been shut off.


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On 07 Aug 2025, Ron L. said the following...

This is a variation of the Elitist play of
+ Wrap a fact in a false Narrative
+ When people point out the false Narrative
+ Point to the fact and call them 'deniers'.

HAHAHA... Ya... NGO gets 2 Billion for whatever... adopts 2 puppies... and when you complain about the 2 Billion they say its because you hate adopted puppies.

It wasn't that long ago we were only 9 Trillion in debt... now we 37.

How did we get to that point and not even care that we are.

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IB Joe wrote to Dr. What <=-

HAHAHA... Ya... NGO gets 2 Billion for whatever... adopts 2 puppies...
and when you complain about the 2 Billion they say its because you hate adopted puppies.

Yup. That's the standard play.

It wasn't that long ago we were only 9 Trillion in debt... now we 37.

How did we get to that point and not even care that we are.

Because most of us don't understand how large those numbers are.

$1
$1 thousand
$1 million

It's at this point where our brains just lump everything together as "a lot"

$1 billion
$1 trillion

And many people don't understand where that money comes from since they aren't getting a bill every month for it.


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On 08 Aug 2025, Ron L. said the following...

Because most of us don't understand how large those numbers are.

$1
$1 thousand
$1 million

It's at this point where our brains just lump everything together as "a lot"

$1 billion
$1 trillion

And many people don't understand where that money comes from since they aren't getting a bill every month for it.

At the turn of the last century... I think it was 1907 J.P. Morgan lent the US government money. It was argued that J.P. Morgan saved/rescued the US from failure.

The People, in We The People, demanded the government pay the debt off ASAP, and they did.

J.P. Morgan lent the government actual money for an actual problem. Today we have a government who prints money to fix problems they made... and the public seems to be content with that.

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Kurt Weiske wrote to Dan Clough <=-

Yeah... great talking points there, likely harvested right off the DNC manifesto, right?

"Manifesto?"

Probably not the right choice of word. How about from the party's platform planks? Maybe the TV ads? The mainstream media's index-card list of random anti-GOP subjects?

Here's a valid question (which I admit to not knowing the answer to):
You cited a few percentages above there. What percentage of their
funding went to "overhead"...? Yeah, that vague category that actually means "lines the pockets of corrupt politicians" and "other
personnel"...? Do you know?

6.6% administrative overhead for USAID. Any NGO is going to have
some level of overhead, it's the cost of providing services.

Sure, a little overhead is expected. I highly doubt that figure is accurate, and don't have the time needed to check it. VERY unlikely that it's that low, when you get down into the multilevel count of "middlemen" who all need their cut. I'd bet it's closer to 50% when the trickle-down is finished.

The truth is that it was a money-laundering operation, almost entirely
to the benefit of Democrats and the Leftist agenda. AKA Waste, Fraud,
and Abuse. The Libs are the only ones upset because they were the only ones "reaping the rewards".

The people that, you know, didn't starve or die of communicable
diseases because of the efforts of USAID certainly benefitted.

Probably. Were these beneficiaries Americans? If not, why would we spend
US taxpayer money on them before we took care of those starving or dying of communicable diseases right here in our own country? Or those Americans who are homeless, or veterans killing themselves because of PTSD related issues?

My whole point here is that our tax dollars should be spent on AMERICANS.

As for the libs being upset because they were the only ones
"reaping the rewards", that's painting with an awfully wide brush. I'm upset because USAID is a great way to help people in need while

I've got nothing against helping people in need. But those people should be AMERICANS. When all of them are taken care of, if there's any money left
over, then help others. OUR PEOPLE FIRST.

extending influence into developing nations. China is quickly taking up the slack. Is that in the US' best interests?

That's happening regardless of what USAID may have done. Zero effect on that by closing down USAID.

To summarize all of this above stuff into one question:

Can you tell my EVEN ONE reason that we should spend American money on other countries, when there are MILLIONS of AMERICANS who need assistance first?

It's really that simple in my opinion.



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IB Joe wrote to Dr. What <=-

J.P. Morgan lent the government actual money for an actual problem.
Today we have a government who prints money to fix problems they
made... and the public seems to be content with that.

But keep in mind that, through the Federal Reserve, we gave J.P. Morgan-type of people control over the money.

And back to a previous message about later generations not being nearly as strong/smart/able as the first generation.

Having J.P. Morgan in charge of the Federal Reserve today would probably be a good thing.


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On 09 Aug 2025, Ron L. said the following...

But keep in mind that, through the Federal Reserve, we gave J.P. Morgan-type of people control over the money.

And back to a previous message about later generations not being nearly
as strong/smart/able as the first generation.

Having J.P. Morgan in charge of the Federal Reserve today would probably be a good thing.

I've seen drastic changes to the countries with the few generations I've seen. My grandfather during the depression time use to walk around with his carpentry tools knocking on doors to see if they need anything fixed.

There was a hill near his house called the 88 cent hill... They were building a road over that hill and they paid people 88 cents a day. I haven't been there in ages but I do recall the name.

When my grandmother did dishes she never filled the sink with water... she did that to conserve and it was a habit she never broke.

We went from that... to F@ck it... just print the money and don't asks questions.


I know the left is trying to destroy the western world... But we have to wake up.

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IB Joe wrote to Dr. What <=-

When my grandmother did dishes she never filled the sink with water...
she did that to conserve and it was a habit she never broke.

We went from that... to F@ck it... just print the money and don't asks questions.

That's what happens when we live so long in prosperous times that we forget how things were.

I know the left is trying to destroy the western world... But we have
to wake up.

Schools are supposed to teach us about the past - but the Left ruined them. Families are supposed to pass down first hand information about the past - but the left ruined that too.


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