• Musical memories

    From CYBERPOPE@3:640/1115 to ALL on Tue Sep 14 12:15:28 2021
    I doubt any of us were around in 1921 (100 years ago) but here was the #1 song:

    Al Jolson ÿ O-H-I-O (O-My! O!) Van & Schenck ÿ Ain't We Got Fun?

    I'm sure you've heard it? It's easily found on YouTube, if you care to

    In 1971 (more of us around then?) the #1 song was "Joy To The World" by Three Dog
    Night

    I have the vinyl LP (& hundreds of others from '70s & late '60s, & some early '80s. . .)

    Thousands total, filing up one wall of my living room.

    They ain't worth squat, being as they're in what I euphemistically call, "previously
    enjoyed condition" (oft-played & it shows)

    Some Beatles covers were once used as backdrop in a local amateur play. (I might've
    chosen to go online, find the original mint looking photos of the covers & print those, but
    they wanted genuine aged copies, so there I was, & some Stones, too)

    Three Dog Night hjas always been a favourite of mine; their "Black & White" is my
    favourite musical commentary on the pre-1964 state-sanctioned racism era.

    What are your musical memories?

    I love the era from '67 to '86 best, I'd say. . . Before was too bubble gum-y, & after
    became too new age-y & pop-y
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  • From August Abolins@2:221/1.58 to CYBERPOPE on Wed Sep 15 00:55:00 2021
    Hello CYBERPOPE!

    ** On Tuesday 14.09.21 - 12:15, CYBERPOPE wrote to ALL:

    I doubt any of us were around in 1921 (100 years ago) but
    here was the #1 song:

    Al Jolson ÿ O-H-I-O (O-My! O!) Van & Schenck ÿ Ain't We Got Fun?

    I'm sure you've heard it? It's easily found on YouTube, if you care to

    Never heard of it. Not likely to bother.


    In 1971 (more of us around then?) the #1 song was "Joy To
    The World" by Three Dog Night

    Now, THAT was a favourite of mine.


    I have the vinyl LP (& hundreds of others from '70s & late
    '60s, & some early '80s. . .)

    Thousands total, filing up one wall of my living room.

    Very nice. I have about 1100 LPs.


    They ain't worth squat, being as they're in what I
    euphemistically call, "previously enjoyed condition" (oft-
    played & it shows)

    That's too bad. I took great pains to preserve my LPs. I
    bought extra onion-paper sleeves and replaced the typical
    factory paper versions.


    Some Beatles covers were once used as backdrop in a local
    amateur play. (I might've chosen to go online, find the
    original mint looking photos of the covers & print those,
    but they wanted genuine aged copies, so there I was, & some
    Stones, too)

    Hmmm.. genuine vs print wouldn't have made a difference from
    the point of view of an audience.


    What are your musical memories?

    I love the era from '67 to '86 best, I'd say. . . Before
    was too bubble gum-y, & after became too new age-y & pop-y

    I dunno.. I have favourites across all the different decades.

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  • From Daryl Stout@1:2320/33 to CYBERPOPE on Wed Sep 15 13:09:00 2021
    George,

    Three Dog Night hjas always been a favourite of mine; their "Black & White" is my favourite musical commentary on the pre-1964
    state-sanctioned racism era.

    Years ago, when my wife and I would go out on errands, we'd take our dachshund over to the neighbor's apartment, where the resident had a brussels-griffon dog...and the neighbor in the back had brought their
    poodle over.

    My wife described it as "A Three Dog Nightmare". <G>

    I was holding one of the treats, and all three were eagerly eyeing
    me, furiously wagging their tails. <G> I said to my wife and the lady
    neighbor "Do you think I have their full attention now??!!". All of us
    busted out laughing. <G>

    I'm still trying to find my bullfrog friend named Jeremiah. <G>

    Daryl

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  • From CYBERPOPE@3:640/1115 to August Abolins on Wed Sep 15 15:48:26 2021
    That's too bad. I took great pains to preserve my LPs. I
    bought extra onion-paper sleeves and replaced the typical
    factory paper versions.

    Thees weren't mine to begin with; I bought them used, bit by bit over
    the years. . .

    Now I try not to play them, being as I can find most full albums on
    YouTube.


    Hmmm.. genuine vs print wouldn't have made a difference from
    the point of view of an audience.

    True enough (album covers as backdrop in a play); I think the director
    just liked the idea more than anything else. :)

    But 'tis true, the printed ones would look shiny & new, while mine had
    definite signs of aging.


    I dunno.. I have favourites across all the different decades.

    Oh, same, but my general favourite, for rock is '67 to '86.

    I like some of most genres, except for rap & most pop, as they get too repetitive or otherwise show the creators don't have any legit skills.

    I particularly like Deep Purple, because every member was classically
    trained, & it shows in how they forge a harmonious interplay of sounds.

    & Pat Benatar, as she was operetically trained & could really wring some
    sounds out of her throat!

    Freddy Mercury, too, had a special voice, as did the Frank (Sinatra)

    I love music that I can close my eyes to, & just feel all sorts of
    symphonc sounds wash all around me. . .



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  • From CYBERPOPE@3:640/1115 to Daryl Stout on Wed Sep 15 15:57:08 2021
    I'm still trying to find my bullfrog friend named Jeremiah. <G>

    I think the frog's friend was nam,ed Jeremiah.

    I didn't casre -- joy to the world is always a good sentiment & nice to
    have a different tune from t he oft-played Xmas one. . . :)

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  • From August Abolins@2:221/1.58 to CYBERPOPE on Wed Sep 15 23:10:00 2021
    Hello CYBERPOPE!

    ** On Wednesday 15.09.21 - 15:48, CYBERPOPE wrote to August Abolins:

    I like some of most genres, except for rap & most pop, as
    they get too repetitive or otherwise show the creators
    don't have any legit skills.

    omg, RAP is not music. The rapper usually just rambles in the
    same note, same 4:4 time. There might be an occassional bridge
    or chorus with some background singers who actually sing, but
    that's about it. To me, most rap all sound the same.

    One rap tune I *do* like: Gangsta's Paradise -by- Coolio. The
    chorus is well designed, and there's actual singing in parts of
    it.


    I particularly like Deep Purple, because every member was
    classically trained, & it shows in how they forge a
    harmonious interplay of sounds.

    Did not know about the DP classical-trained connection. Can't
    say I'm a fan, but Smoke on the Water had my attention back in
    the day.


    & Pat Benatar, as she was operetically trained & could
    really wring some sounds out of her throat!

    PB's classical-trained I *did* know.


    Freddy Mercury, too, had a special voice, as did the Frank
    (Sinatra)

    I've Never been crazy about Mercury or Queen, but I did not
    escape the grip of the Bohemian Rhapsody. I liked many of Frank
    Sinatra's tunes.


    I love music that I can close my eyes to, & just feel all
    sorts of symphonc sounds wash all around me. . .

    I never research the music video of any tune. Often that would
    ruin my perceived imagery. A video that depicts the actual
    performance like Edie Brickel - What I Am, is all that is
    required, for me.

    I rarely listen to music just in the background while doing
    something else. I would do as you, put on the music and sit
    back and enjoy.
    --
    ../|ug

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  • From Daryl Stout@1:2320/33 to August Abolins on Thu Sep 16 01:14:00 2021
    August,

    omg, RAP is not music. The rapper usually just rambles in the
    same note, same 4:4 time. There might be an occassional bridge
    or chorus with some background singers who actually sing, but
    that's about it. To me, most rap all sound the same.

    The ventriloquist who had "Shotgun Red" as his "ventriloquial
    figure" (the fancy name for "dummy") had Red note:

    "You know what I think of Rap?? Put a C in front of it!!". Indeed,
    it seems like every other word is the F word or some other profanity.
    To me, Rap is for people who never learned how to sing.

    I rarely listen to music just in the background while doing
    something else. I would do as you, put on the music and sit
    back and enjoy.

    Lately, I've had the classical music station on in the background
    here in the bedroom...even during the night. If nature or a nightmare
    wake me, I have some sense of normalcy. Unfortunately, some of what
    they consider as "music", I don't.

    Daryl

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  • From Daryl Stout@1:2320/33 to CYBERPOPE on Thu Sep 16 01:21:00 2021
    George,

    I think the frog's friend was named Jeremiah.

    Every time I hear that name, I think of that song.

    I didn't care -- joy to the world is always a good sentiment & nice to have a different tune from the oft-played Xmas one. . . :)

    I don't even listen to Christmas music, go to cantatas, etc. -- and the
    same applies to Easter. I got so burned out on the commercialism of both.

    I think of the meme with Grandma sitting in her chair, with a shotgun,
    with a deer head mounted on the wall, and she growls "Run me over, will
    you??" <G>.

    Or the elderly female organist, who just fired off her shotgun in the
    church, and snarled "Anybody else have an issue with how I'm playing the organ??!!".

    And, other one...the pastor went to visit the elderly female church
    organist one Sunday after church. After inviting him in, she went to
    the kitchen to get some coffee and donuts (a staple for church on
    Sunday morning <G>). Anyway, the preacher looked on the organ, and saw
    a small bowl of water...and in it, was floating a prophylactic (condom).

    The preacher was very embarrassed, but finally, he got up the courage
    to ask the lady what was going on.

    She replied "I was out on a walk awhile back, and I found this item
    in a package. It said ''Put on organ, keep wet, helps prevent infection''. Pastor, I haven't been sick in 2 years!!".

    The preacher fainted dead away. <G>

    With the rock group Styx, 2 of their songs I really like...Come Sail
    Away, and You're Foolin' Yourself -- mainly because of the intricate
    keyboard work.

    Daryl

    ... Procrastination Day Has Been Postponed!
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  • From JOE MACKEY@1:135/392 to CYBERPOPE on Sat Sep 18 08:00:34 2021
    Cyberpope wrote --

    Al Jolson

    I really like Jolson. He has a bad rep now (blackface and all that) but
    he was a major player in the day.

    In 1971 (more of us around then?) the #1 song was "Joy To The World" by Three Dog Night

    Of course you know the story of how Eskimo's judge a cold night?
    A regular cold night is a one dog night. A colder night is a two dog
    night. A really cold night is a three dog night.

    I have the vinyl LP (& hundreds of others from '70s & late '60s, & some early '80s. . .)

    I have a lot of old LP's in the closet.
    For some years I had no record player.
    Being of old time radio fan I bought a retro radio/phonograph and planned
    on ripping the LP's to .mp3. Basically my favourite tracks. That has never happened, years later.
    One time I collected 78s and an extensive collection of early Frank
    Sinatra. Those all disappeared over the years. Some broke, nost lost.
    I could buy 78s at the Salvation Army thrift store in the '60s for a
    nickel each. No one wanted them at that time.

    What are your musical memories?

    I love the era from '67 to '86 best

    Mine are from the early 20th C. up to about 1980. I am particularly
    fond of the '20s, '30s and '40s.
    Joe
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  • From JOE MACKEY@1:135/392 to AUGUST ABOLINS on Sat Sep 18 08:22:24 2021
    Aug wrote --

    omg, RAP is not music.

    Thank you.

    The rapper usually just rambles in the same note, same 4:4 time.

    Yep.
    They all sound the same.
    And don't get me started on a lot of the words...

    One rap tune I *do* like: Gangsta's Paradise -by- Coolio.

    Weird Al Yankovick had a great satire of that, Amish Paradise.
    Found Weird Al on the old Doctor Demento radio show and became a big fan.
    He was really popular for some years.
    Joe


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  • From Daryl Stout@1:2320/33 to JOE MACKEY on Sat Sep 18 22:06:00 2021
    Joe,

    I really like Jolson. He has a bad rep now (blackface and all that)
    but he was a major player in the day.

    There is a scene from "Silver Streak", where Grover T. Muldoon (Richard Pryor) is putting brown shoe polish on George Caldwell (Gene Wilder) to
    make him look like a black man, so they can get him on the train (George Caldwell is falsely wanted for murder).

    In the exchange, Muldoon said "Are you afraid it won't come off??"...and Caldwell replied "This is crazy!! It'll never work!!". To which, Muldoon
    has him look in the mirror, and said "Al Jolson made a million bucks looking like that!!".

    As they were heading toward the police checkpoint (Caldwell was told the cops were from Travelers Aid <G>), Caldwell says "I don't think we'll make
    it past the cops", and Muldoon replies "We'll make it past the cops. I just hope we don't see no Muslims". :P Bear in mind this was filmed in the mid 1970's.

    Of course you know the story of how Eskimo's judge a cold night?
    A regular cold night is a one dog night. A colder night is a two dog night. A really cold night is a three dog night.

    Plus, they get Polaroids if they sit on the ice too long. <G>

    I have a lot of old LP's in the closet.
    For some years I had no record player.

    I have several books from the late Clive Cussler (my late Mom loved his books, and we went to several of their society conventions before she died
    just over 2 years ago)...and I also have a large amount of vinyl LP records. Unfortunately, I don't have the means to ship them (financially or
    otherwise), and am afraid to put an ad out...as some scumbag might show up
    and kill me, then ransack the place.

    fond of the '20s, '30s and '40s.

    I listen to classical music (Brahams, Beethoven, Mozart, Chopin, Rachmaninoff, Tchaikowsky, etc.), as well as Big Band and Swing. Years
    ago at work, an employee heard me listening to the OLD music, and he
    asked me if I was trying to get old before my time. I replied "You're
    d@mn right I am!!". My late wife lamented with the "music" (I use the
    term loosely) they have nowadays, that "If that's music, we're doomed".

    Daryl

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  • From August Abolins@2:221/1.58 to JOE MACKEY on Sun Sep 19 08:49:00 2021
    Hello JOE MACKEY!

    ** On Saturday 18.09.21 - 08:00, JOE MACKEY wrote to CYBERPOPE:

    I have a lot of old LP's in the closet.
    For some years I had no record player.

    Get a decent turntable (they are readily available, new) and
    enjoy!


    Being of old time radio fan I bought a retro radio/
    phonograph and planned on ripping the LP's to .mp3.
    Basically my favourite tracks. That has never happened,
    years later.

    LP to MP3 was a project in my mind too. But when Spotify came
    around, and solved the problem. ;)

    --
    ../|ug

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  • From George Pope@1:153/757.2 to Daryl Stout on Sun Sep 19 12:32:23 2021
    I don't even listen to Christmas music, go to cantatas, etc. -- and
    the
    same applies to Easter. I got so burned out on the commercialism of
    both.

    I agree with you on Santamas (that's what I call the commercial version
    that's more about gifts than God's love & sacrifice)

    What Easter songs are overplayed? I can't think of any Easter song I've
    ever heard in a store. . . Might be a geopgraphical thing?


    I think of the meme with Grandma sitting in her chair, with a shotgun, with a deer head mounted on the wall, and she growls "Run me over, will you??" <G>.

    The one I think of has Rudolph in a La-Z Boy, with a rifle in his hand & 7 reindeer heads mounted on the wall above him; caption: "They USED to lauigh
    & call him names."

    Or the elderly female organist, who just fired off her shotgun in the church, and snarled "Anybody else have an issue with how I'm playing the organ??!!".

    Like:
    Q: How many militant feminists does it take to change a lightbulb?
    A: SEVENTY-SIX! YOU GOT A F***ING PROBLEM WITH THAT, BUSTER?

    And, other one...the pastor went to visit the elderly female church organist one Sunday after church. After inviting him in, she went to
    the kitchen to get some coffee and donuts (a staple for church on
    Sunday morning <G>). Anyway, the preacher looked on the organ, and saw
    a small bowl of water...and in it, was floating a prophylactic (condom).

    The preacher was very embarrassed, but finally, he got up the courage
    to ask the lady what was going on.

    She replied "I was out on a walk awhile back, and I found this item
    in a package. It said ''Put on organ, keep wet, helps prevent
    infection''.
    Pastor, I haven't been sick in 2 years!!".

    The preacher fainted dead away. <G>

    I thnk we covered this one in FUNNY a short while back?

    With the rock group Styx, 2 of their songs I really like...Come Sail
    Away, and You're Foolin' Yourself -- mainly because of the intricate keyboard work.

    I love their older stuff, before Dennis DeYoung died (his voice really set
    the tone for Styx' original sound, I feel.)

    I have several of their original vinyl LPs, including "Paradise Theater"
    which has a picturte of the heritage theater's facade in laser-etched iridescence.

    Had another one of theirs in orange clear vinyl -- that one I sold, though, sadly. . . :(

    One song with a Styx like quality, IMO, is "Echo Beach" by Martha and the Muffins. . .

    It kind of blends well with "Too much time on my hands"; between them you
    can drift away into an imaginary tropical paradise, in true arse-parked-in- a-hammock retirement. .

    Your friend,

    <+]:{)}
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  • From George Pope@1:153/757.2 to JOE MACKEY on Sun Sep 19 12:54:27 2021
    Cyberpope wrote --

    Al Jolson

    I really like Jolson. He has a bad rep now (blackface and all that)
    but
    he was a major player in the day.

    Yup; It seems unfair to condemn a man based on laws & mores that didn't
    exist until yeard later.. .

    True, the attitudes sucked back then & most knew better, but blackface was
    the leat of the ills American blacks went through.

    Chris Rock speakls of how young blacks today comnplain, "I can't get a taxi because I'mn black" & Chris says, "Listen you, back then we WERE the taxi.
    Fat white businessman would jump onto your back & say, "Hey, n****r, take
    me to the post office up on third street."

    Sure happy things have changed, mostly, & for the better. . .

    As a disabled person, I experience prejudice in my job search, but then I
    also get a disability cheque each month that covers my rent & then some, so overall, my life is good. I don't need to look far to see people getting it
    a lot worse.

    So I say I understand the plight of today's bLacks, but not the pre-1964 blacks, noo way would I attempt that claim!

    In Canada blacks are treated well, but our first nations, not so much. :(

    Even recently a native man was asleep in his pickup truck & a nearby farmer shot him dwead & claimed self defense & the local judge & jury acquitted
    him completely.. Despicable!

    They say if we had time travel, whites could go to any time or culture in
    the past & do well enough, but maybe not a good plan to go into the future.




    In 1971 (more of us around then?) the #1 song was "Joy To The World"
    by
    Three Dog Night

    Of course you know the story of how Eskimo's judge a cold night?
    A regular cold night is a one dog night. A colder night is a two dog night. A really cold night is a three dog night.

    I have the vinyl LP (& hundreds of others from '70s & late '60s, &
    some
    early '80s. . .)

    I have a lot of old LP's in the closet.
    For some years I had no record player.
    Being of old time radio fan I bought a retro radio/phonograph and
    planned
    on ripping the LP's to .mp3. Basically my favourite tracks. That has
    never
    happened, years later.
    One time I collected 78s and an extensive collection of early Frank Sinatra. Those all disappeared over the years. Some broke, nost lost.
    I could buy 78s at the Salvation Army thrift store in the '60s for a nickel each. No one wanted them at that time.

    What are your musical memories?

    I love the era from '67 to '86 best

    Mine are from the early 20th C. up to about 1980. I am particularly
    fond of the '20s, '30s and '40s.
    Joe
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    Your friend,

    <+]:{)}
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  • From August Abolins@2:221/1.58 to JOE MACKEY on Mon Sep 20 00:35:00 2021
    Hello JOE MACKEY!

    ** On Saturday 18.09.21 - 08:22, you wrote to me:

    One rap tune I *do* like: Gangsta's Paradise -by- Coolio.

    Weird Al Yankovick had a great satire of that, Amish
    Paradise. Found Weird Al on the old Doctor Demento radio
    show and became a big fan. He was really popular for
    some years.

    I remember Al's version now! That was pretty funny.

    I recall the Dr Demento radio show too. Often it was at late
    night when AM signals had better reception. I have one LP of
    Dr. Demento "best of.." picks.

    Anyway.. Coolio's tune has some musicality to it. I am not
    familiar with his other stuff. But Gangsta's Paradise is
    enough exposure to rap without being totally bored by it.

    --
    ../|ug

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  • From Daryl Stout@1:2320/33 to George Pope on Sun Sep 19 21:17:00 2021
    George,

    I agree with you on Santamas (that's what I call the commercial version that's more about gifts than God's love & sacrifice)

    A local Hobby Lobby had their decorations up in June...I guess in their anticipation of "Christmas In July". That's like the song by the female
    country singer (her first name is Gretchen, but I can't remember her last name)...where she's "A Redneck Woman". She keeps her Christmas lights up
    all year long...and knows all the words to every Charlie Daniels, Tanya
    Tucker, and Ol' Bocephus (Hank Williams, Jr.) song.

    What Easter songs are overplayed? I can't think of any Easter song
    I've ever heard in a store. . . Might be a geopgraphical thing?

    Think of the cartoon where Bugs Bunny subs in for the Easter Rabbit to "deliver the technicolor hen fruit". :P Even Bugs admits as he sings,
    "Phooey!! I'm glad I don't have to do this for a living!!" <G>.

    The one I think of has Rudolph in a La-Z Boy, with a rifle in his hand
    & 7 reindeer heads mounted on the wall above him; caption: "They USED
    to laugh & call him names."

    LOL. Or the one with one reindeer asking the other if he ate baked beans,
    and was told "a dozen cans". <G>

    Like:
    Q: How many militant feminists does it take to change a lightbulb?
    A: SEVENTY-SIX! YOU GOT A F***ING PROBLEM WITH THAT, BUSTER?

    Really (as they cock all their weapons at once (now, that's a bad choice
    of words!)) <G>.

    I thnk we covered this one in FUNNY a short while back?

    I'm sure we did, but it's still cute.

    I love their older stuff, before Dennis DeYoung died (his voice really
    set the tone for Styx' original sound, I feel.)

    Those were the only 2 I was familiar with (Come Sail Away, and You're
    Foolin' Yourself).

    Daryl

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  • From JOE MACKEY@1:135/392 to DARYL STOUT on Mon Sep 20 05:49:10 2021
    Daryl wrote --

    hope we don't see no Muslims". :P Bear in mind this was filmed in the mid 1970's.

    I watch mostly old shows ('50s-'70s) and often think when watching a
    comedy "They couldn't get away with that (line/scene) today".
    Joe
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  • From JOE MACKEY@1:135/392 to AUGUST ABOLINS on Mon Sep 20 05:52:00 2021
    Aug wrote --

    LP to MP3 was a project in my mind too. But when Spotify came
    around, and solved the problem. ;)

    Same here. There is a lot of stuff I have on vinyl that's on the web
    now.
    Of course finding time to listen is another story.
    Joe

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  • From Daryl Stout@1:2320/33 to JOE MACKEY on Tue Sep 21 00:46:00 2021
    Joe,

    hope we don't see no Muslims". :P Bear in mind this was filmed in the mid 1970's.

    I watch mostly old shows ('50s-'70s) and often think when watching a comedy "They couldn't get away with that (line/scene) today".

    Everyone is so offended at everything, it's ridiculous.

    Daryl

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  • From George Pope@1:153/757.2 to August Abolins on Wed Sep 22 18:57:31 2021
    I doubt any of us were around in 1921 (100 years ago) but
    here was the #1 song:

    Al Jolson ÿ O-H-I-O (O-My! O!) Van & Schenck ÿ Ain't We Got Fun?

    I'm sure you've heard it? It's easily found on YouTube, if you care
    to

    Never heard of it. Not likely to bother.

    Just for gits & shiggles, I looked it up
    https://youtu.be/y_KSPsNi8WY

    Catchy tune. . . hate the voice,though

    That's too bad. I took great pains to preserve my LPs. I
    bought extra onion-paper sleeves and replaced the typical
    factory paper versions.

    How is it different by using onion-paper?

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    (2:221/1.58)

    A good menmory works in both directions.

    I find thazt helpfyul in playing poker with some mates -- I preplay the
    game mentally the night before then try to recall how I did the different
    hands as they come up, live. . .

    Your friend,

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  • From Daryl Stout@1:2320/33 to George Pope on Thu Sep 23 04:36:00 2021
    George,

    Just for gits & shiggles, I looked it up

    Nice spoonerism...I'll have to remember that one. <G>

    Daryl

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  • From August Abolins@2:221/1.58 to George Pope on Thu Sep 23 07:54:00 2021
    Hello George Pope!

    ** On Wednesday 22.09.21 - 18:57, George Pope wrote to August Abolins:

    That's too bad. I took great pains to preserve my LPs. I
    bought extra onion-paper sleeves and replaced the typical
    factory paper versions.

    How is it different by using onion-paper?

    The oniony paper doesn't generate static or have fibers like
    regular paper sleeves do.


    * Origin: Time moves in one direction, memory in another.
    -WG-
    (2:221/1.58)

    A good menmory works in both directions.

    I find thazt helpfyul in playing poker with some mates --
    I preplay the game mentally the night before then try to
    recall how I did the different hands as they come up,
    live. . .

    I think you just demonstrated the "other direction" in which
    memory works: ie, recall.

    I'm impressed by people who can recall character names and
    plots from books they've read decades prior.


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  • From JOE MACKEY@1:135/392 to GEORGE POPE on Sat Sep 25 07:30:24 2021
    Cyberpope wrote --

    Yup; It seems unfair to condemn a man based on laws & mores that didn't exist until yeard later.. .

    I would like to time travel 50. 60, 100 years from now and what their
    version of cancel culture finds upsetting about today. :)

    In Canada blacks are treated well, but our first nations, not so much. :(

    All through history one group has been against another in one way or another. This group/nationality dislikes that group/nationality, regardless of where they live: Europe, Asia, Africa, the Americas, etc.
    Personally I'm not that wild about the French. :)
    Joe
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  • From JOE MACKEY@1:135/392 to DARYL STOUT on Sat Sep 25 07:48:20 2021
    Daryl wrote --

    Everyone is so offended at everything, it's ridiculous.

    This comment offends me! :)
    Joe


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  • From Daryl Stout@1:2320/33 to JOE MACKEY on Sat Sep 25 09:06:00 2021
    Joe,

    Everyone is so offended at everything, it's ridiculous.

    This comment offends me! :)

    The same clothes you got mad in, are the same clothes you can get
    glad in. And, this does not initiate groveling mode on my part. <g,d,r>

    Daryl

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  • From August Abolins@2:221/1.58 to JOE MACKEY on Mon Oct 4 21:33:00 2021
    Hello JOE MACKEY!

    ** On Monday 20.09.21 - 05:52, you wrote to me:

    LP to MP3 was a project in my mind too. But when Spotify
    came around, and solved the problem. ;)

    Same here. There is a lot of stuff I have on vinyl
    that's on the web now. Of course finding time to listen
    is another story.

    I'll put on a favorite album (CD) during my mighttime routine.
    I usually fall asleep after 3 or 4 songs. When I wake up a few
    hours later, I just play it again (on random mode so that each
    song is a surprise).

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  • From JOE MACKEY@1:135/392 to AUGUST ABOLINS on Wed Oct 6 05:55:48 2021
    Aug wrote --

    I'll put on a favorite album (CD) during my mighttime routine.
    I usually fall asleep after 3 or 4 songs.

    I need quiet to get to sleep, unless I'm really dead on my feet.
    I often use earplugs to cut out all sound.
    Besides, the idea of the electricity being used at that time would keep
    me awake... :)
    Joe

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  • From Daryl Stout@1:2320/33 to JOE MACKEY on Wed Oct 6 15:08:00 2021
    Joe,

    I need quiet to get to sleep, unless I'm really dead on my feet.

    I used to have classical music going in the background, but some of
    what they call "music", I have to disagree. Some of these singers have
    so much vibrato in their voice, it's like they have that huge belt
    around their waist, and the machine is "shaking it and them".

    I often use earplugs to cut out all sound.

    Reminds me of a skit with ventriloquist Paul Zerdin. One of his
    "dummies" is an old man, who got his hearing aid misplaced. It turns
    out he had a suppository in his ear...then it hit him where his hearing
    aid was. :P

    Besides, the idea of the electricity being used at that time would
    keep me awake... :)

    Well, I wouldn't expect you to moderate the echo if you were asleep. :P

    Or, like the meme, where the elderly couple has been sitting on this
    couch for a long time. The old man says "My butt's asleep", and his wife replies "Yeah, I can hear it snoring". <G>

    Daryl

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  • From August Abolins@2:221/1.58 to JOE MACKEY on Wed Oct 6 20:04:00 2021
    Hello JOE MACKEY!

    ** On Wednesday 06.10.21 - 05:55, JOE MACKEY wrote to AUGUST ABOLINS:

    Besides, the idea of the electricity being used at that
    time would keep me awake... :)

    Sorry to disappoint you, but your refrigerator probably kicks
    in every 20 minutes and runs for 15 while you are sleeping
    *and* uses far more than a CD player would. ;)


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  • From JOE MACKEY@1:135/392 to DARYL STOUT on Thu Oct 7 05:50:10 2021
    Daryl wrote --

    I need quiet to get to sleep, unless I'm really dead on my feet.

    I used to have classical music going in the background,

    My trouble is I start humming along to the music, or singing the lyrics
    or trying to remember the lyrics. Or the music reminds of some event or
    place and start thinking about that...
    There are times I have trouble getting to sleep, unrelated to the
    reasons above.
    I have to think "Brain shut down or its an all-nighter and the body will
    be upset with you tomorrow". Sometimes if that doesn't work I think "Well,
    I have a lot of (quiet) projects I can work on" and that might do it.
    Joe

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  • From JOE MACKEY@1:135/392 to AUGUST ABOLINS on Thu Oct 7 05:51:48 2021
    Aug wrote --

    Besides, the idea of the electricity being used at that
    time would keep me awake... :)

    Sorry to disappoint you, but your refrigerator probably kicks
    in every 20 minutes and runs for 15 while you are sleeping
    *and* uses far more than a CD player would. ;)

    Oh great, something more to think about to keep me awake at night.
    Thanks.
    Joe


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  • From Daryl Stout@1:2320/33 to JOE MACKEY on Thu Oct 7 20:57:00 2021
    Joe,

    I have to think "Brain shut down or its an all-nighter and the body will be upset with you tomorrow". Sometimes if that doesn't work I
    think "Well, I have a lot of (quiet) projects I can work on" and that might do it.

    Or, be like the blooper that noted:

    "Mrs. Smith is going into the hospital Friday for testes. She said in
    case she has trouble sleeping, she wants copies of the preachers sermons".

    Daryl

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  • From George Pope@1:153/757.2 to JOE MACKEY on Sun Oct 10 12:31:54 2021
    Cyberpope wrote --

    Yup; It seems unfair to condemn a man based on laws & mores that didn't exist until yeard later.. .

    I would like to time travel 50. 60, 100 years from now and what their version of cancel culture finds upsetting about today. :)

    In Canada blacks are treated well, but our first nations, not so much. :(

    All through history one group has been against another in one way or another. This group/nationality dislikes that group/nationality, regardless of where they live: Europe, Asia, Africa, the Americas, etc.
    Personally I'm not that wild about the French. :)

    This gr0uop hastye thing is a necessary thingfor weaker leaders to maintain cohesion in a nation: focusing the population on a common enemy/goal.

    Quite necessary in any nation with a standing army.

    It's been pointed out that a standing army exists only to fight wars, & if denied that, they wither(morale-wise, i.e. esprit de corps)) & turn against their own leaders & country.

    From Rome t il today. . . & nobody learns because the government focuses everyone's attention on the enemies du jour(ofd the day)

    You must be aware that without the French, there'd be no USA?

    Ben Franklin knew how powerful the French military was, & sought an alliance that would provide the revolutionaries top of the line arms (the machine gun of the day -- essentially an auto-loading Daisy, & the caissons of song)

    I was technically born in France (within their borders, but n a Canadian air force bases hospital, so I was Canadian from birth, but if I'd been dumb enough to be in France from age 17-21, I'd've been drafted for their army--the only thing worse than a standing army is one that uses a draft)

    Your friend,

    <+]:{)}
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  • From George Pope@1:153/757.2 to August Abolins on Sun Oct 10 13:10:56 2021
    The oniony paper doesn't generate static or have fibers like
    regular paper sleeves do.

    Sounds bright. How do you store the albums? On end, or flat? & how to store 100+ & not damage the vinyl by its liquid nature (it'll flow down if on end too long, making a bulging bottom)

    A good menmory works in both directions.

    I find that helpfyul in playing poker with some mates --
    I preplay the game mentally the night before then try to
    recall how I did the different hands as they come up,
    live. . .

    I think you just demonstrated the "other direction" in which
    memory works: ie, recall.

    I'm impressed by people who can recall character names and
    plots from books they've read decades prior.

    This was a curse to me -- I'd pick up a book that looked good, & half a paragraph in I know the whole story toomuc to reread. That's gone now & I've happily reread a couple of old favourites. . .ahh, age. . .

    Things I like tend to find residence in my sketchy memory banks.

    I have much stored in there, but the retrieval system sucks badly.

    Oh, some times, if I can get in the right frame of mind, I can kick butt at trivia for an hour or two. I had a nice coup in Jeopardy the other night - beat Matt on a few questions, & I answered the Final Jeopardy before they showed the question. (they showed the category & I parsed that & my recollection of how Jeopardy chooses questions); & that & $5 will get me a cup of coffee, I know. . .

    Your friend,

    <+]:{)}
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  • From George Pope@1:153/757.2 to Daryl Stout on Sun Oct 10 14:08:21 2021
    George,

    Just for gits & shiggles, I looked it up

    Nice spoonerism...I'll have to remember that one. <G>

    My wife & I once created a Facbook page called that & went from 2(us) to 30K members in just 3 months! (posting funny memes/etc) then we got bored & killed it. . . (let it staledate & self-delete, actually)

    Your friend,

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  • From August Abolins@2:221/1.58 to George Pope on Sun Oct 10 20:11:00 2021
    Hello George Pope!

    ** On Sunday 10.10.21 - 13:10, George Pope wrote to August Abolins:

    The oniony paper doesn't generate static or have fibers
    like regular paper sleeves do.

    Sounds bright. How do you store the albums? On end, or
    flat? & how to store 100+ & not damage the vinyl by its
    liquid nature (it'll flow down if on end too long, making
    a bulging bottom)

    On edge is fine. My understanding is that vinyl is stable in a
    wide range around room temperature or lower temps.
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  • From JOE MACKEY@1:135/392 to GEORGE POPE on Tue Oct 12 06:07:26 2021
    Cyberpope wrote --


    Personally I'm not that wild about the French. :)

    You must be aware that without the French, there'd be no USA?

    And without the USA there would be no France. (1917 and 1944 and all
    that). :)
    Joe
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  • From George Pope@1:153/757.2 to August Abolins on Tue Oct 12 09:24:16 2021
    Hello George Pope!

    ** On Sunday 10.10.21 - 13:10, George Pope wrote to August Abolins:

    The oniony paper doesn't generate static or have fibers
    like regular paper sleeves do.

    Sounds bright. How do you store the albums? On end, or
    flat? & how to store 100+ & not damage the vinyl by its
    liquid nature (it'll flow down if on end too long, making
    a bulging bottom)

    On edge is fine. My understanding is that vinyl is stable in a
    wide range around room temperature or lower temps.

    Perfcr, as my house always feels too cold. . . :P

    Where do I find these onion paper LP sleeves? & is that what I keyword search for?

    Your friend,

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  • From George Pope@1:153/757.2 to Daryl Stout on Wed Oct 13 12:45:42 2021
    The one I think of has Rudolph in a La-Z Boy, with a rifle in his hand & 7 reindeer heads mounted on the wall above him; caption: "They USED to laugh & call him names."

    LOL. Or the one with one reindeer asking the other if he ate baked beans, and was told "a dozen cans". <G>

    Let me giuess, the beans eater was lead reindeer? Either way, por Santa *LOL*

    Like:
    Q: How many militant feminists does it take to change a lightbulb?
    A: SEVENTY-SIX! YOU GOT A F***ING PROBLEM WITH THAT, BUSTER?

    Really (as they cock all their weapons at once (now, that's a bad choice of words!)) <G>.

    I don't think they ever renamed the plane's cockpit once they had female pilots. . .

    Those were the only 2 I was familiar with (Come Sail Away, and You're Foolin' Yourself).

    I love playing full Styx albums or their "Greatest Hits" CD on YouTube. . . but not their newer stuff (e.g. Mr. Roboto album--too pop)

    YouTube is a wealth of old LPs & collections of greatest hits for a lot of bands & other AV performers.

    Your friend,

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  • From George Pope@1:153/757.2 to JOE MACKEY on Wed Oct 13 15:11:28 2021
    Cyberpope wrote --


    Personally I'm not that wild about the French. :)

    You must be aware that without the French, there'd be no USA?

    And without the USA there would be no France. (1917 and 1944 and all that). :)

    Canada was most responsible for saving the day in WW1 (Vimy Ridge was the turning point, all scholars agree) & in WW2, most of Europe credits Canada more than any other.

    Japan was separate from WW2 -- that was a private economic+power struggle disagreement between Japan & USA. Japan gave written two week notice before attacking Poearl Harbor. (a military target; Nagasaki & Hiroshima had no military bases)

    Japan was in the South Pacific separate from WW2. It was all part of the oingoing Sino-Japanese wars that were of no defense concern to the West.

    Your billionaire munitions & Big Steel manufacturers wanted in on a big scale very profitable war & they pushed those they needed to to make it happen.

    Funny thing, Canada declared war on Japan hours before the USA did.

    Sorry, but I've talked with those who were in command positions then, & done other research on the topioc. Fascinating stuff. . . & I'm so glad that episode of "Global F*ck Everybody With War" is finally over.


    Your friend,

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  • From Daryl Stout@1:2320/33 to George Pope on Thu Oct 14 09:16:00 2021
    George,

    Let me guess, the beans eater was lead reindeer? Either way, poor Santa

    They were paid by all the naughty kids. <G>

    I don't think they ever renamed the plane's cockpit once they had
    female pilots. . .

    Or a cockpit was where the male chickens fought...and cockfights are still done in many areas.

    I love playing full Styx albums or their "Greatest Hits" CD on YouTube.
    . . but not their newer stuff (e.g. Mr. Roboto album--too pop)

    I saw where the Rolling Stones had to quit playing "Brown Sugar", as it
    was being decried as racist.

    YouTube is a wealth of old LPs & collections of greatest hits for a lot
    of bands & other AV performers.

    The older stuff beats the daylights out of what's out there now.

    Daryl

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  • From George Pope@1:153/757.2 to Daryl Stout on Fri Oct 15 14:12:15 2021
    George,

    Let me guess, the beans eater was lead reindeer? Either way, poor Santa

    They were paid by all the naughty kids. <G>

    That explains so much!

    I don't think they ever renamed the plane's cockpit once they had female pilots. . .

    Or a cockpit was where the male chickens fought...and cockfights are still done in many areas.

    Not a 'sport' I'd support or be part of. . .

    Or the gay guy who showed up to a cockfight nude & realized he had made a horrible misunderstanding. . .

    I saw where the Rolling Stones had to quit playing "Brown Sugar", as it was being decried as racist.

    Those decriers are the racist ones!

    It's clearly a song extolling a sweet brown skinned girl; how is that a negative?

    Whites make up ~90% of the US population, but you've never heard a song called "white sugar" about a stripper!

    Everybody knows to avoid the whites (white bread, sugar, rice, & pompous plantation type of bloated men)

    YouTube is a wealth of old LPs & collections of greatest hits for a lot of bands & other AV performers.

    The older stuff beats the daylights out of what's out there now.

    daylight & several nights & whole weekends, too!

    There's a diffewrenvce between noise & music.

    If I were to try to be generous, I'd only be able say it's sound vs music

    I like music. I don't care the genre or era, so long as it's melodious & harmonic.

    A primitive jungle beat doesn't cover it for me, & that's all rap is: a primitive jungle beat over-punctuated by vulgarity and sexually aggressive threats.

    I'm rediscovering the country greats of the 1970s, too. . .good stuff. . .storytelling, not just trying to be the loudest.

    Your friend,

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  • From August Abolins@2:221/1.58 to George Pope on Fri Oct 15 20:29:00 2021
    Hello George Pope!

    ** On Friday 15.10.21 - 14:12, George Pope wrote to Daryl Stout:

    I saw where the Rolling Stones had to quit playing "Brown
    Sugar", as it was being decried as racist.

    Those decriers are the racist ones!

    It's clearly a song extolling a sweet brown skinned girl;
    how is that a negative?

    I think the problem some people have with the song is the
    reference to slavery in the early verses.

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  • From Daryl Stout@1:2320/33 to George Pope on Fri Oct 15 21:30:00 2021
    George,

    Let me guess, the beans eater was lead reindeer? Either way, poor Santa

    They were paid by all the naughty kids. <G>

    That explains so much!

    That it does. <G> Besides, July is National Baked Bean Month <FRAP!>, and they do talk about <FRAP!> Christmas In July. <FRAP!>. :P

    Or a cockpit was where the male chickens fought...and cockfights are still done in many areas.

    Not a 'sport' I'd support or be part of. . .

    A waste of good chicken...but with the Cubans in south Florida, it was very popuar.

    Or the gay guy who showed up to a cockfight nude & realized he had made
    a horrible misunderstanding. . .

    Dueling D***$ at 20 paces. :P

    I saw where the Rolling Stones had to quit playing "Brown Sugar", as it was being decried as racist.

    Those decriers are the racist ones!

    Then, the NCAA is going to drop the SAT and ACT academic tests for
    athletes, as "it infringes on certain people". What they're doing is
    giving into their laziness...and rewarding them for being slothful,
    and not studying.

    One time, Colin Powell (who is black) made a speech, it angered a
    lot of the black folks, but what he said was true. And, it seems that
    with most of the crimes, that it is the black folks getting arrested.
    Now, to me, you shouldn't be doing criminal activity in the first place.
    But, if you're doing it, you shouldn't be getting caught.

    It's clearly a song extolling a sweet brown skinned girl; how is that a negative?

    They said it amounted to slavery. Well, both the blacks and whites had slaves.

    Whites make up ~90% of the US population, but you've never heard a song called "white sugar" about a stripper!

    This is true.

    Everybody knows to avoid the whites (white bread, sugar, rice, &
    pompous plantation type of bloated men)

    The late Richard Pryor was right when he complained about the white folks having a fit of all the people of color. He asked "Then, why are the white folks spending all this money in tanning salons??!!".

    There's a difference between noise & music.

    To me, rap is for people who never learned how to sing. Especially when
    every other word is a profanity. Now, I can deal with it "once in a blue
    moon", but not every other word. Otherwise, profanity is "the attempt of
    a feeble mind to express itself forcibly". My late Mom and late wife had
    enough of a command of the English language, that they didn't have to use
    that kind of talk. And, I've known women who cussed so bad, that they'd
    make a sailor blush!!

    I like music. I don't care the genre or era, so long as it's melodious
    & harmonic.

    My favorites are classical (Brahams, Beethoven, Rachmaninoff, Mozart, Chopin, Lizst, etc.), big band and swing (Glen Miller, Tommy Dorsey, Bing Crosby, Perry Como, etc.), the classic church hymns (which many church congregations have gotten away from, as they view it as offensive), Black Gospel music, and A Cappella Barbershop Quartet Singing. In the movie
    "The Music Man", it was "The Buffalo Bills", members of the school board,
    who did several numbers in the film...such as "How Can There Be Any Sin
    In Sincere?", "Lida Rose", and "Good Night, Ladies".

    A primitive jungle beat doesn't cover it for me, & that's all rap is: a primitive jungle beat over-punctuated by vulgarity and sexually
    aggressive threats.

    Exactly. Plus, it's played so loud, that it's as if there's an earthquake from the car next to you...and it's like they've gone deaf for all the loud music, and the tribal beat is the only thing they can understand or feel.

    I'm rediscovering the country greats of the 1970s, too. . .good stuff.
    . .storytelling, not just trying to be the loudest.

    There is a station locally, KMJX, known as "The Wolf"...105.1 FM -- it originally was "Magic 105", with a hard rock format, but it was sold to
    new station owners, who changed the format to "classic country western
    hits". You can find it with the I Heart Radio app.

    The late George Jones (aka "The Possum") hit the nail on the head, with
    his song "Who's Gonna Fill Their Shoes??". The music video of that (you can find it on YouTube) is nostalgia at its best.

    Daryl

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  • From August Abolins@2:221/1.58 to George Pope on Sat Oct 16 08:26:00 2021
    Hello George Pope!

    ** On Tuesday 12.10.21 - 09:24, George Pope wrote to August Abolins:

    Where do I find these onion paper LP sleeves? & is that
    what I keyword search for?

    I dunno. Another term to use for the search is "rice paper
    sleeves"

    HOWEVER.. I just learned that is product purports to be better
    than the onion/rice paper variety:

    https://www.marecordings.com/main/ product_info.php?cPath=68&products_id=202&osCsid=fqi43uc2q56m40
    klp7ccal4d77



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  • From George Pope@1:153/757.2 to August Abolins on Sun Oct 17 13:44:54 2021
    It's clearly a song extolling a sweet brown skinned girl;
    how is that a negative?

    I think the problem some people have with the song is the
    reference to slavery in the early verses.

    That's my spotty memorty at work -- I just looked em up -- yup, not too cool, but it's lyrical poetry, not a "how to" manual.

    Maybe that frst verse is just a flashback to why there's an African American girl to fall in love with -- it could be seen as a flashback lament.

    Most or all songs are meant to be interpreted by the listener. It's telling when people see only negatives.

    I don't say "they mean ..."; the most I can truthfuly say is, "it could mean..." (based on the actual words &/or what the writers have said about them- -I look them up on occasion)

    per songfacts.com:

    According to the book Up And Down With The Rolling Stones by Tony Sanchez, all the slavery and whipping is a double meaning for the perils of being "mastered" by Brown Heroin, or "Brown Sugar." The drug cooks brown in a spoon.

    I can see that --it was the fashionable thing to use double meanings in lyrics.

    The Beatles began it (then cleared up some misunderstandings & assumptions in "Glass Onion")


    Your friend,

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  • From George Pope@1:153/757.2 to August Abolins on Sun Oct 17 14:46:41 2021
    Hello George Pope!

    ** On Tuesday 12.10.21 - 09:24, George Pope wrote to August Abolins:

    Where do I find these onion paper LP sleeves? & is that
    what I keyword search for?

    I dunno. Another term to use for the search is "rice paper
    sleeves"

    HOWEVER.. I just learned that is product purports to be better
    than the onion/rice paper variety:

    https://www.marecordings.com/main/ product_info.php?cPath=68&products_id=202&osCsid=fqi43uc2q56m40
    klp7ccal4d77

    Thank you, I've sent thaty to my purchasing department (aka wife) with non- breaking URL: https://tinyurl.com/4jjsun5z

    Your friend,

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  • From August Abolins@2:221/1.58 to George Pope on Sun Oct 17 17:50:00 2021
    Hello George Pope!

    ** On Sunday 17.10.21 - 13:44, George Pope wrote to August Abolins:

    I can see that --it was the fashionable thing to use double meanings in lyrics.

    The Beatles began it (then cleared up some misunderstandings &
    assumptions in "Glass Onion")

    Speaking of Beatles.. Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds - LSD (the
    drug)?

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  • From August Abolins@2:221/1.58 to George Pope on Sun Oct 17 18:31:00 2021
    Hello George Pope!

    ** On Sunday 17.10.21 - 14:46, George Pope wrote to August Abolins:

    HOWEVER.. I just learned that is product purports to be better
    than the onion/rice paper variety:

    https://www.marecordings.com/main/
    product_info.php?cPath=68&products_id=202&osCsid=fqi43uc2q56m40
    klp7ccal4d77

    Thank you, I've sent thaty to my purchasing department (aka wife) with non- breaking URL: https://tinyurl.com/4jjsun5z


    Personally, I would stick with the onion/rice variety. No
    point using the expensive MA Recording version for old scrappy
    LPs.

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  • From George Pope@1:153/757.2 to Daryl Stout on Sun Oct 17 15:58:39 2021
    That it does. <G> Besides, July is National Baked Bean Month <FRAP!>, and they do talk about <FRAP!> Christmas In July. <FRAP!>. :P

    Christmas in July, because "we got sh*t to sell, dammit!"

    I abstain.

    Or the gay guy who showed up to a cockfight nude & realized he had made a horrible misunderstanding. . .

    Dueling D***$ at 20 paces. :P

    Someone's really bad at measuring, or there's a "charge!" moment?

    D*** Jousting? I've met guys who would love that as a spectator sport.

    Then, the NCAA is going to drop the SAT and ACT academic tests for athletes, as "it infringes on certain people". What they're doing is
    giving into their laziness...and rewarding them for being slothful,
    and not studying.

    Exactly. The guilty white liberals cry they were downtroddemn from birth & so have amn unfair disadvantage.

    I invite any of them to listen to or read my favourite Linguistics professor: Dr,. John McWhorter.

    He's unaplogetically black &, in "Losing the Race" he detyails how blacks sabotage themselves(he would be bullied for "talking white" as a kid (i.e. speaking with proper grammar.); he overcame the molasses dragging him downward & moved to the top of any academic vocation: a multi-published PhD.

    He notes how even Jamaica/etc. immigrants, who came her after 1964's ending of legally enforced racism, are dragged down ihn to the African-Amerocvans' downward spirtal in to pure victimhood.

    You've nailed it: it's all about extoling & honoring/rewarding laziness(mental; I wouldn't call a pro football player physically lazy, especially not to his face, or muscles)

    But EVERYONE is claiming victimhood benefits now! & they're all, savbe for the odd individual, full of crap (most of the crap is just brown sticky low self worth, created by ad-based national corporate domination.)

    I was raised differentl I quesrtion all the crap being fed to me -- the ads have no power ovcer me, as I see through to the kernel; of truth.

    "Our soap is better." (yeah, better than if you washed your clothes in crude oil)

    "Our new & upgraded dish soaop is better than our old one!" (so you've successfully ****ed us all over for how long, with a substandard soap, by your very admission? & I'm to trusr your crap NOW??")

    "Have it your way at Burger King" (unless our underage minwage front counter dummy doesn't understand plain English, & trust us, he doesn't; or our cooks are goofing around, tossing food from the floor onto the grill & serving it to you, because we deduct the cost from their teeny paycheques if they don't.)



    One time, Colin Powell (who is black) made a speech, it angered a
    lot of the black folks, but what he said was true. And, it seems that
    with most of the crimes, that it is the black folks getting arrested.
    Now, to me, you shouldn't be doing criminal activity in the first place. But, if you're doing it, you shouldn't be getting caught.

    It's clearly a song extolling a sweet brown skinned girl; how is that a negative?

    They said it amounted to slavery. Well, both the blacks and whites had slaves.

    Whites make up ~90% of the US population, but you've never heard a song called "white sugar" about a stripper!

    This is true.

    Everybody knows to avoid the whites (white bread, sugar, rice, & pompous plantation type of bloated men)

    The late Richard Pryor was right when he complained about the white folks having a fit of all the people of color. He asked "Then, why are the white folks spending all this money in tanning salons??!!".

    There's a difference between noise & music.

    To me, rap is for people who never learned how to sing. Especially when every other word is a profanity. Now, I can deal with it "once in a blue moon", but not every other word. Otherwise, profanity is "the attempt of
    a feeble mind to express itself forcibly". My late Mom and late wife had enough of a command of the English language, that they didn't have to use that kind of talk. And, I've known women who cussed so bad, that they'd
    make a sailor blush!!

    I like music. I don't care the genre or era, so long as it's melodious & harmonic.

    My favorites are classical (Brahams, Beethoven, Rachmaninoff, Mozart, Chopin, Lizst, etc.), big band and swing (Glen Miller, Tommy Dorsey, Bing Crosby, Perry Como, etc.), the classic church hymns (which many church congregations have gotten away from, as they view it as offensive), Black Gospel music, and A Cappella Barbershop Quartet Singing. In the movie
    "The Music Man", it was "The Buffalo Bills", members of the school board, who did several numbers in the film...such as "How Can There Be Any Sin
    In Sincere?", "Lida Rose", and "Good Night, Ladies".

    A primitive jungle beat doesn't cover it for me, & that's all rap is: a primitive jungle beat over-punctuated by vulgarity and sexually aggressive threats.

    Exactly. Plus, it's played so loud, that it's as if there's an earthquake from the car next to you...and it's like they've gone deaf for all the loud music, and the tribal beat is the only thing they can understand or feel.

    I'm rediscovering the country greats of the 1970s, too. . .good stuff. . .storytelling, not just trying to be the loudest.

    There is a station locally, KMJX, known as "The Wolf"...105.1 FM -- it originally was "Magic 105", with a hard rock format, but it was sold to
    new station owners, who changed the format to "classic country western hits". You can find it with the I Heart Radio app.

    The late George Jones (aka "The Possum") hit the nail on the head, with his song "Who's Gonna Fill Their Shoes??". The music video of that (you can find it on YouTube) is nostalgia at its best.

    Daryl

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  • From George Pope@1:153/757.2 to August Abolins on Sun Oct 17 16:47:06 2021
    Hello George Pope!

    ** On Sunday 17.10.21 - 13:44, George Pope wrote to August Abolins:

    I can see that --it was the fashionable thing to use double meanings in lyrics.

    The Beatles began it (then cleared up some misunderstandings & assumptions in "Glass Onion")

    Speaking of Beatles.. Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds - LSD (the
    drug)?

    Nope -- based on a picture one of them saaw in elementary schol drawn by who knows, but the song was naed for a niece of someone's, I believe, from memory. That is one of the songs they got annoyed at people making up stories about it (like the LSD accusation that took off)

    While up the sky, you have Jimi Hendrix clearly singing, "'scuse me while I kiss this guy!"; "this guy" has never been identified.

    Mondegreen lyrics are often fun.

    Beatles: "Lucy's in a fight with Linus. . ."

    Your friend,

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  • From George Pope@1:153/757.2 to August Abolins on Sun Oct 17 16:50:40 2021
    Hello George Pope!

    ** On Sunday 17.10.21 - 14:46, George Pope wrote to August Abolins:

    HOWEVER.. I just learned that is product purports to be better
    than the onion/rice paper variety:

    https://www.marecordings.com/main/
    product_info.php?cPath=68&products_id=202&osCsid=fqi43uc2q56m40
    klp7ccal4d77

    Thank you, I've sent thaty to my purchasing department (aka wife) with non- breaking URL: https://tinyurl.com/4jjsun5z


    Personally, I would stick with the onion/rice variety. No
    point using the expensive MA Recording version for old scrappy

    Nope; I suggested we get them only for our still mint discs. (I have some mixed in with the "much enjoyed" quality surfaces, in my collection of ~2,000); we're building our mutual lists of missing "must haves" & will soon embark on hunting expeditions in person & online (gpt a good British guy down by the water who has a LOT of albums, 45sm, & band paraphernalia from my fave era (rock, 1964- 1979; listening to accuradio merged blend of themes(64-71, & 1970s) right now)


    Your friend,

    <+]:{)}
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