Nancy wrote --

In addition, being retired if now I don't want to do anything
there's not much the company can do about it. :)

Yup... very true... ;) So they need to stay on your good side so that
you'll be willing to come in to make sure that the insurance etc is satisfied.... ;)

In all the years I've worked, uh, been employed, in security there have
only been a handful of times I've turned down a post. There were times I grumbled and whined to myself, but I still worked when asked.
I always show up, am never late*, do what's requested, etc.
(*One time comes to mind. I was asked to work a Saturday where I am now
and assumed (and you know what happens when you ass-u-me) it was that one
day. Sunday morning my phone ran with my captain wanting to know where I was. He had scheduled me for that d
If you show yourself to be dependable, etc you will better posts, along
with more responsibility. Too often today youngsters want that right away without earning it.
Joe
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Quoting Joe Mackey to Nancy Backus on 02-05-20 07:55 <=-

In addition, being retired if now I don't want to do anything
there's not much the company can do about it. :)

Yup... very true... ;) So they need to stay on your good side so that you'll be willing to come in to make sure that the insurance etc is satisfied.... ;)

In all the years I've worked, uh, been employed, in security there
have only been a handful of times I've turned down a post. There were times I grumbled and whined to myself, but I still worked when asked.
I always show up, am never late*, do what's requested, etc.

The ideal employee... ;) And still willing to come in even though
retired.... ;)

(*One time comes to mind. I was asked to work a Saturday where I am
now and assumed (and you know what happens when you ass-u-me) it was
that one day. Sunday morning my phone ran with my captain wanting to
know where I was. He had scheduled me for that d

(And here I thought Doc had fixed that bug...) 'He had scheduled me for
that d'ay as well...? Sounds to me as though you weren't the only
assuming that time... the captain seems to have assumed that you knew
that he wanted you for the whole weekend.... ;)

If you show yourself to be dependable, etc you will better posts,
along with more responsibility. Too often today youngsters want that right away without earning it.

Apparently, their parents never enforced that concept with them... And
they may not have learned in school, either....

ttyl neb

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Nancy wrote --

The ideal employee... ;)

Thank you.

And still willing to come in even though retired.... ;)

When a certain ring tone ("blah-blah-blah-blah") goes off I know who it
is and what he wants and answering saying, with a sigh, "Ok, I'll be there",
no hello, what do you want?, etc. :)
And its not like he ever calls to shoot the breeze.

If you show yourself to be dependable, etc you will better posts,
along with more responsibility. Too often today youngsters want that

right away without earning it.

Apparently, their parents never enforced that concept with them... And
they may not have learned in school, either....

Too many have been given trophies for just the least little thing and
think they deserve whatever have is just because they are them.
Neither of my parents had a it easy growing up (though the '50s were good times), and I was taught to be thankful for whatever work I had and give it
my all. That I could be replaced at the drop of a hat, etc.
The Depression was merely a slight bump in the road to them and barely noticed. :)
And I have had a 1932 mentality all my life. :)
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Quoting Joe Mackey to Nancy Backus on 02-08-20 05:55 <=-

And still willing to come in even though retired.... ;)

When a certain ring tone ("blah-blah-blah-blah") goes off I know who
it is and what he wants and answering saying, with a sigh, "Ok, I'll be there", no hello, what do you want?, etc. :)

But I suppose you should at least find out the details of what he
needs... like, how many hours, how many days.... ;)

And its not like he ever calls to shoot the breeze.

So there's no reason to think it's anything but work... <G>

If you show yourself to be dependable, etc you will better posts,
along with more responsibility. Too often today youngsters want
that right away without earning it.

Apparently, their parents never enforced that concept with them... And
they may not have learned in school, either....

Too many have been given trophies for just the least little thing
and think they deserve whatever have is just because they are them.

And passed on to the next grade, whether or not they met the
requirements....

Neither of my parents had it easy growing up (though the '50s were
good times), and I was taught to be thankful for whatever work I had
and give it my all. That I could be replaced at the drop of a hat,
etc. The Depression was merely a slight bump in the road to them and barely noticed. :)

We didn't have much growing up, but didn't really realize it... learned
to live within means... :) And when we ended up with more as adults,
socked it away for later, or helped others with it... :)

And I have had a 1932 mentality all my life. :)

Not the worst mentality to have... ;)

ttyl neb

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Nancy wrote --

But I suppose you should at least find out the details of what he
needs... like, how many hours, how many days.... ;)

I have only two posts.
One is traffic control during home football games. That seasons has been over for a while. But then its up to me to know the days they play (and
give my captain that schedule) and to be there four hours before kickoff.
The other post is on-going, at the bio tech building on campus, part of
the med school.
That is really a cake post since I just have to be there, warming a
chair.
During the week when the woman calls off and I get a call I know the
hours, etc. so no need to ask about anything.
The weekly schedule is posted and up to me (and the others) to check it
if any changes, etc.
So basically I am either at one or the other.
Except when the university is on a break (Thanksgiving, Christmas, spring break) when I will be needed to fill in at a dorm or something.
In the summer there is housing for various groups meeting on campus or something and need to work then as well.
The only time this would change would be if something drastic has
happened. It is very rare for me to be sent somewhere else or times change.

And its not like he ever calls to shoot the breeze.

So there's no reason to think it's anything but work... <G>

Yep, when I hear that ringtone on a weekday morning I know exactly what
he wants. :)

Too many have been given trophies for just the least little thing
and think they deserve whatever have is just because they are them.

And passed on to the next grade, whether or not they met the
requirements....

There has been a couple of generations where kids are just passed along regardless.
I was talking to a new hire one day about something and came to find out
he could neither read nor write (other than signing his name) and a high
school graduate!
I asked how in the world he graduated and he said friends had helped him.
Some friends. Some help. :(

We didn't have much growing up, but didn't really realize it

Most kids then didn't. Everyone you knew is in the same condition so it seems perfectly normal. All kids have a "when I'm rich and successful" view
of life. Its something to strive for, not to be handed.

... learned to live within means... :)

Not something a lot of people have learned what with easy credit.
Just charge it, pay the minimum, live life to the fullest.

And when we ended up with more as adults,
socked it away for later, or helped others with it... :)

I am really happy when I am able to help others.
I have been lucky the last 15 or so years being financially comfortable
due to a number of (legal) circumstances. When I am able to write a cheque
to help someone I really like being able to do that. So many times in the
past I couldn't it.

And I have had a 1932 mentality all my life. :)

Not the worst mentality to have... ;)

Help keeps me grounded. I am well aware that stuff happens and it could
be gone in an instant.
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Joe,

In all the years I've worked, uh, been employed, in security there have
only been a handful of times I've turned down a post. There were times I JM>grumbled and whined to myself, but I still worked when asked.

There you go, muttering under your breath and changing things
again...but you are a expert in that. <g,d,r>

I always show up, am never late*, do what's requested, etc.

Good for you.

(*One time comes to mind. I was asked to work a Saturday where I am now
and assumed (and you know what happens when you ass-u-me) it was that one JM>day. Sunday morning my phone ran with my captain wanting to know where I wa

I wish more people knew about that "assume" deal. I feel like the
picture of the squirrel praying "Lord!! Please stop the stupid people
from breeding!! We're being overrun down here!!". Never mind all the
Darwin Award winners. :P

If you show yourself to be dependable, etc you will better posts, along
with more responsibility. Too often today youngsters want that right away JM>without earning it.

Exactly. They want to work from 12 to 1, take an hour off for lunch,
and get a full check.

Daryl


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Quoting Joe Mackey to Nancy Backus on 02-11-20 08:13 <=-

But I suppose you should at least find out the details of what he
needs... like, how many hours, how many days.... ;)

I have only two posts.
One is traffic control during home football games. That season has
been over for a while. But then its up to me to know the days they
play (and give my captain that schedule) and to be there four hours
before kickoff.

So that one, at least before you retired, you already knew you'd be
working and when....

The other post is on-going, at the bio tech building
on campus, part of the med school.
That is really a cake post since I just have to be there, warming a
chair.
During the week when the woman calls off and I get a call I know the hours, etc. so no need to ask about anything.
The weekly schedule is posted and up to me (and the others) to check
it if any changes, etc.
So basically I am either at one or the other.

And still on a regular schedule even though you've retired...? Then
there would be no need to call... ;)

Except when the university is on a break (Thanksgiving, Christmas,
spring break) when I will be needed to fill in at a dorm or something.
In the summer there is housing for various groups meeting on campus
or something and need to work then as well.
The only time this would change would be if something drastic has happened. It is very rare for me to be sent somewhere else or times change.

But at those times, wouldn't the captain have to let you know which days
you'd be working, since you'd not necessarily know the schedule or when
you were needed....?

And its not like he ever calls to shoot the breeze.

So there's no reason to think it's anything but work... <G>

Yep, when I hear that ringtone on a weekday morning I know exactly
what he wants. :)

In that case, he'd just need to call you each day you were needed... but
I still don't see why he'd've assumed that you knew to work that Sunday
that you didn't show up... <G>

Too many have been given trophies for just the least little thing
and think they deserve whatever have is just because they are them.

And passed on to the next grade, whether or not they met the requirements....

There has been a couple of generations where kids are just passed
along regardless.

True, it was already happening some when we were kids...

I was talking to a new hire one day about something and came to find
out he could neither read nor write (other than signing his name) and a high school graduate!
I asked how in the world he graduated and he said friends had helped
him. Some friends. Some help. :(

And did he expect those same friends to cover for him for the rest of
his life....?

We didn't have much growing up, but didn't really realize it

Most kids then didn't. Everyone you knew is in the same condition
so it seems perfectly normal. All kids have a "when I'm rich and successful" view of life. Its something to strive for, not to be
handed.

I don't think we even were striving for anything.... except to not
flunk/get the best grades we could.... :)

... learned to live within means... :)

Not something a lot of people have learned what with easy credit.
Just charge it, pay the minimum, live life to the fullest.

And then complain how unfair life is when the house of cards comes
a-tunmbling down....

And when we ended up with more as adults,
socked it away for later, or helped others with it... :)

I am really happy when I am able to help others.
I have been lucky the last 15 or so years being financially
comfortable due to a number of (legal) circumstances. When I am able
to write a cheque to help someone I really like being able to do that.
So many times in the past I couldn't do it.

The times that we were back to living on a showstring again were tough
partly because we had to be helped ourselves instead of helping
others...

And I have had a 1932 mentality all my life. :)

Not the worst mentality to have... ;)

Help keeps me grounded. I am well aware that stuff happens and it
could be gone in an instant.

Indeed.

ttyl neb

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Nancy wrote --

But then its up to me to know the days they play

So that one, at least before you retired, you already knew you'd be
working and when....

When I started in security in 1994 it was only PT, working the football games. I had another PT job and this was just some needed extra cash. One thing led to another and I did not only football, but basketball, and here and there.
I also worked for a temp agency.
Basically in the winter temp work (unless you had something long term)
was non-existent. That is when I did security.
When the weather warmed and more temp jobs came along I did that in the summer.
I left temp work in the early 2000s when security demanded more and more
of my time and went full time.
We no longer have the athletic contact at Marshall. And frankly no one misses it.
It took a lot of man (and woman) power to fill all those positions (150+
per football game, 20+ for basketball, doing one thing or another) which
meant a lot of people were working OT, along with day workers hired for that.
My company is contracted by a private company for security for that one
lot, about 50 cars/tailgaters. This company rents spaces to the FOP, who in turn "sub lets" spaces for others in law enforcement in some way. So the people on the lot could be LEO's
IOW, the FOP rents the lot and who they sub-rent to is their own
business. So long as the owner of the lot gets his money he's happy. :)
All I do is check the dates/times of home games (about 5-6 per season)
and let my captain know I am working there that day and not schedule me for
the other place.

During the week when the woman calls off and I get a call

Betty is 80, not in the best of health and her husband is going senile
and getting to be a handful.
If she can't work some day she calls my captain who then calls me. I generally get a couple hours notice.
Some times she needs a day off for a doctors appointment and I am
scheduled to work that day. Just check the schedule every week.
What I hate are times I have plans for that day and that is often the
morning I will get a call.
I am an early riser so two hours notice isn't that bad. Its just
changing all my plans, telling people I can't make whatever, etc.

And still on a regular schedule even though you've retired...?

Regular schedule of Saturday/Sunday from 0800-1600. But I still have to check the weekly schedule to make sure.
There are times I will fill in for Betty (scheduled or not) and then she offers to work that Saturday for me. I generally say no, I'll do it. I
don't want her to fooling around with my schedule.
But then she changes her schedule often, wanting to work three days, no I want to work four, no now I want to work five, no make it three...
My captain is a patient man, but he is growing tired of her changing how
many days a week she wants to work.
Plus she likes to take off Wednesdays which means my schedule is thrown
off. Work two days, off two days, work a day, off two days, work two days, etc.
In the summer when the dorms are closed (or during a break time) my hours
are less as someone else fills in that post to keep them busy.
Such as last year when I was on my trip. I knew in advance I would have
that free time and just let my captain I wasn't available. I was off till August. :)

But at those times, wouldn't the captain have to let you know which days

you'd be working

Those are on the regular weekly schedule.
Only if something comes up at the last minute does than change.
Its my job to check the schedule every Saturday morning. It comes out on Friday.
He will let me know in advance if he needs me elsewhere to fill in for someone if they have requested time off.
I have only gotten one call in some time to hurry/run somewhere and that
was when the other person took ill.

I still don't see why he'd've assumed that you knew to work that Sunday
that you didn't show up... <G>

Because I didn't check the schedule.
I had only been at this post a couple of times over several years and not familiar how it operated.
And being told "I need you Saturday" it never occurred to me to check the schedule for the next day (Sunday through Saturday).

And passed on to the next grade, whether or not they met the requirements....

True, it was already happening some when we were kids...

But that was pretty rare.
I went to parochial school and things like that just didn't happen. That
was more of a public school thing.

I asked how in the world he graduated and he said friends had helped

him. Some friends. Some help. :(

And did he expect those same friends to cover for him for the rest of
his life....?

A lot of people his age live only for today. Tomorrow is in the future
and don't even think about a year or more ahead.

Just charge it, pay the minimum, live life to the fullest.

And then complain how unfair life is when the house of cards comes a-tunmbling down....

Again, something they don't think about.
Just like adults who spend it as fast they make it.

The times that we were back to living on a showstring again were tough
partly because we had to be helped ourselves instead of helping
others...

I have always tried to make it on my own. I hate to ask anyone for help.
I got into a discussion once with a woman who said asking for a job was asking for help and one can't make it on their own, since they need a job for money, etc.
No asking someone for a handout is asking for help. Not getting and
keeping a job.
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Joe,

A lot of people his age live only for today. Tomorrow is in the future
and don't even think about a year or more ahead.

Even younger folks...they live for themselves and for the present
only.

Again, something they don't think about.
Just like adults who spend it as fast they make it.

I wondered why my smartphone bill had gone up, then when I looked at
the invoice, I blushed "That's right...I added that feature". :P

I have always tried to make it on my own. I hate to ask anyone for help.

I hate to impose om folks.

No asking someone for a handout is asking for help. Not getting and
keeping a job.

Plus, the panhandlers don't have to declare it as income, and don't
have to pay taxes on it...and they can work whatever days and hours they
want.

Most of these are asking for money...and likely is going for either
tobacco, alcohol, or drugs. But, I've heard of these variations...

1) They want money for gas for their car. They're told "follow me in
your car to the gas station", and I'll fill your tank up". They decline.

2) They want money for food. They're told "follow me to this nice
restaurant, and I'll buy you a buffet lunch". They decline.

So, they're not needing the gasoline, and aren't really hungry.

Another guy was in a wheelchair, and this one person was about to give
him some money, when they guy in wheelchair pulled out a smartphone. The
other person said "If you can afford a smartphone, you don't need
money".

Another guy got done with his "panhandling", got up from his
wheelchair, and rolled it to a nearby parking lot, put it in the trunk
of his Lexus, and drove off. That soured me to the entire process.

For that matter, they may copy your license plate, and check the DMV
to find out who owns it, then they have folks banging on your door
constantly.

If I could know their hearts and motives, it'd be a different matter.
But, because of the above example, I tell each of them that I'm broke.

This former classmate was always giving money to these panhandlers,
and I couldn't convince her that "What happens when the shoe is on the
other foot, and you need money? They surely won't be there to help you".

Daryl

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Quoting Joe Mackey to Nancy Backus on 02-17-20 05:50 <=-

When I started in security in 1994 it was only PT, working the
football games. I had another PT job and this was just some needed
extra cash. One thing led to another and I did not only football, but basketball, and here and there.
I also worked for a temp agency.
Basically in the winter temp work (unless you had something long
term) was non-existent. That is when I did security.
When the weather warmed and more temp jobs came along I did that in
the summer.
I left temp work in the early 2000s when security demanded more and
more of my time and went full time.

Temp work would have given you more variety, at least potentially, but
the full-time security work was a more secure job... pun partially
intended... ;) And apparently you found your niche in life.... <G>

We no longer have the athletic contract at Marshall. And frankly no
one misses it.
It took a lot of man (and woman) power to fill all those positions
(150+ per football game, 20+ for basketball, doing one thing or
another) which meant a lot of people were working OT, along with day workers hired for that.

Which, no doubt, is why the college hired out the security for the games
in the first place.... ;)

My company is contracted by a private
company for security for that one lot, about 50 cars/tailgaters. This company rents spaces to the FOP, who in turn "sub lets" spaces for
others in law enforcement in some way. So the people on the lot could
be LEO's IOW, the FOP rents the lot and who they sub-rent to is
their own business. So long as the owner of the lot gets his money
he's happy. :) All I do is check the dates/times of home games
(about 5-6 per season) and let my captain know I am working there that
day and not schedule me for the other place.

And you are still doing that, even though you are now retired...?

During the week when the woman calls off and I get a call

Betty is 80, not in the best of health and her husband is going
senile and getting to be a handful.
If she can't work some day she calls my captain who then calls me.
I generally get a couple hours notice.
Some times she needs a day off for a doctors appointment and I am scheduled to work that day. Just check the schedule every week.
What I hate are times I have plans for that day and that is often
the morning I will get a call.
I am an early riser so two hours notice isn't that bad. Its just
changing all my plans, telling people I can't make whatever, etc.

And here you thought that being retired meant that you could do your own things.... <G>

And still on a regular schedule even though you've retired...?

Regular schedule of Saturday/Sunday from 0800-1600. But I still
have to check the weekly schedule to make sure.
There are times I will fill in for Betty (scheduled or not) and then
she offers to work that Saturday for me. I generally say no, I'll do
it. I don't want her to fooling around with my schedule.
But then she changes her schedule often, wanting to work three days,
no I want to work four, no now I want to work five, no make it three...
My captain is a patient man, but he is growing tired of her changing
how many days a week she wants to work.

I guess she just isn't sure how much she wants to work, but doesn't want
to let go of it quite yet.... :)

Plus she likes to take off Wednesdays which means my schedule is
thrown off. Work two days, off two days, work a day, off two days,
work two days, etc.

Yup, that does throw a monkey wrench into your schedule... ;(

In the summer when the dorms are closed (or during a break time) my
hours are less as someone else fills in that post to keep them busy.
Such as last year when I was on my trip. I knew in advance I would
have that free time and just let my captain I wasn't available. I was
off till August. :)

And enjoyed every minute of it... ;)

But at those times, wouldn't the captain have to let you know which
days you'd be working

Those are on the regular weekly schedule.
Only if something comes up at the last minute does than change.
Its my job to check the schedule every Saturday morning. It comes
out on Friday.
He will let me know in advance if he needs me elsewhere to fill in
for someone if they have requested time off.
I have only gotten one call in some time to hurry/run somewhere and
that was when the other person took ill.

Ah, ok.... that's not too bad then....

I still don't see why he'd've assumed that you knew to work that Sunday
that you didn't show up... <G>

Because I didn't check the schedule.
I had only been at this post a couple of times over several years
and not familiar how it operated.
And being told "I need you Saturday" it never occurred to me to
check the schedule for the next day (Sunday through Saturday).

Ah, ok... that makes sense then.... more ancient history than happening recently... Now you'd just automatically be checking the schedule to see
what might be up... So now the question is, how is that so much
different from before you retired... <G> Still bound to checking the
schedule, regular hours, ets.... doesn't sound all that retired to me...
except for the finally being able to take an extended trip... <G>

And passed on to the next grade, whether or not they met the requirements....

True, it was already happening some when we were kids...

But that was pretty rare.
I went to parochial school and things like that just didn't happen.
That was more of a public school thing.

I suppose that was true... I wasn't in the public schools then either...
but did hear tales.... In the Christian school I was attending, kids got
to skip grades when they were obviously misplaced and needed something
more challenging... or held back if they didn't make the grade after
all... (not the same kids, obviously....[g])

I asked how in the world he graduated and he said friends had
helped him. Some friends. Some help. :(

And did he expect those same friends to cover for him for the rest of
his life....?

A lot of people his age live only for today. Tomorrow is in the
future and don't even think about a year or more ahead.

There is that.

Just charge it, pay the minimum, live life to the fullest.

And then complain how unfair life is when the house of cards comes a-tunmbling down....

Again, something they don't think about.
Just like adults who spend it as fast they make it.

And don't see the cause and effect when things go sour....

The times that we were back to living on a showstring again were tough partly because we had to be helped ourselves instead of helping
others...

I have always tried to make it on my own. I hate to ask anyone for
help.

We did as much as we could on our own.... And then God supplied the rest
we needed, from the church and from friends... And, eventually, with
renewed employment...

I got into a discussion once with a woman who said asking for a
job was asking for help and one can't make it on their own, since they need a job for money, etc.
No, asking someone for a handout is asking for help. Not getting and keeping a job.

Did said woman have a job....? From her viewpoint, it would appear that
one would need to be independently wealthy to "make it on their own"...

ttyl neb

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Nancy wrote --

Temp work would have given you more variety

Oh I loved temp work.
I liked the variety of things I did.
I had several offers where I was temping to work full time. I declined
for any number of reasons, mostly dealing with the work not really being something I wanted to do full time.
If I really disliked the job I knew I would be there only for a limited
time (days, weeks or months).
I learned quickly if the job was low paying it was some sort of dirty,
menial work. The higher the pay the better the conditions, the cleaner the job, etc. :)

Which, no doubt, is why the college hired out the security for the games in

the first place.... ;)

There were a lot of temp workers at the games. From ticket takers to security (including city/county/state police), caterers, clean up crews, etc.

And you are still doing that, even though you are now retired...?

And I'm the only one from my company doing that.
A1 lost the security contract several years ago and none of us were sorry about that.
The company that has it now is not security, but an "events" business who hire only temps and for the games are mostly day workers. (We had some day workers as well).
Someone somewhere knew about me and I was requested. Still never been
able to track that character down. :)
The work is really easy and only six hours. And with a lot full of tailgaters I don't go hungry since everyone forces food on me. I don't want to hurt anyone's feelings so I force myself to over eat. :)

And here you thought that being retired meant that you could do your own

things.... <G>

Those were my original plans....

I guess she just isn't sure how much she wants to work, but doesn't want to

let go of it quite yet.... :)

And she doesn't have to work. She has two nice pensions, along with her semi-senile husbands. And working full time she's pulling down four incomes
a month.

Yup, that does throw a mxkey wrench into your schedule... ;(

It wouldn't be so bad if she would take off a Monday or Friday for a
three day weekend. That's what I would do.

off till August. :)

And enjoyed every minute of it... ;)

Absolutely!

now the question is, how is that so much different from before you retired...

I work generally only two or three days a week.
It my captain has someone available they will work that Wednesday.
I was swamped with work the other day. In eight hours I had a total of
two people come to the counter. One a new delivery driver asking where shipping and receiving was located and the other someone asking where an office was. (There may have been a thir

In the Christian school I was attending, kids got
to skip grades when they were obviously misplaced and needed something
more challenging... or held back if they didn't make the grade

And when I was in school that happened from time to time.
And AFAIK there were no parents storming the school office how mean the
staff was to their baby holding them back.

We did as much as we could on our own.... And then God supplied the rest we

needed, from the church and from friends... And, eventually, with
renewed employment...

I was always taught to take anything that came along, that something
better would come along after that. And it always did. Not immediately but along the road.
I would go from clean jobs to dirty jobs and eventually back to clean
work again. (Not that there is anything wrong about dirty work).

No, asking someone for a handout is asking for help. Not getting and

keeping a job.

Did said woman have a job....? From her viewpoint, it would appear that
one would need to be independently wealthy to "make it on their own"...

She was of the opinion one can't improve their lives without someone (government) helping them. Just as a certain politician and her bootstraps remark.
No, one can pull themselves up by their bootstraps.
My philosophy of life is if one is knocked down to the ground they can either wallow in the dirt, or they can get up, dust themselves off and start over again (like the old song). I may wallow in the dirt a bit, realise
that's not getting me anyway, then
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Quoting Joe Mackey to Nancy Backus on 02-22-20 06:12 <=-

Temp work would have given you more variety

Oh I loved temp work.
I liked the variety of things I did.
I had several offers where I was temping to work full time. I
declined for any number of reasons, mostly dealing with the work not really being something I wanted to do full time.

Good enough reason... ;)

If I really disliked the job I knew I would be there only for a
limited time (days, weeks or months).

So bearable for the sort term... :)

I learned quickly if the job was low paying it was some sort of
dirty, menial work. The higher the pay the better the conditions, the cleaner the job, etc. :)

And the more enticing all around... <G>

Which, no doubt, is why the college hired out the security for the games
in the first place.... ;)

There were a lot of temp workers at the games. From ticket takers
to security (including city/county/state police), caterers, clean up crews, etc.

And between the games, no need to try to find other work for those
workers, as would be if they were on the regular payroll... or paying
overtime to workers that already had the hours filled up...

And you are still doing that, even though you are now retired...?

And I'm the only one from my company doing that.
A1 lost the security contract several years ago and none of us were
sorry about that.
The company that has it now is not security, but an "events"
business who hire only temps and for the games are mostly day workers. (We had some day workers as well).
Someone somewhere knew about me and I was requested. Still never
been able to track that character down. :)

Ah. So you didn't really retire from that part of things, then...

The work is really easy and only six hours. And with a lot full of tailgaters I don't go hungry since everyone forces food on me. I
don't want to hurt anyone's feelings so I force myself to over eat. :)

There is that... and you are such a kind considerate person... :)

And here you thought that being retired meant that you could do your
own things.... <G>

Those were my original plans....

And then then Life intervened... ;)

I guess she just isn't sure how much she wants to work, but doesn't want to let go of it quite yet.... :)

And she doesn't have to work. She has two nice pensions, along
with her semi-senile husband's. And working full time she's pulling
down four incomes a month.

I guess the working is for her mental health, then.... getting her out
to be sociable, and keep the brain working...

Yup, that does throw a mxkey wrench into your schedule... ;(

It wouldn't be so bad if she would take off a Monday or Friday for a
three day weekend. That's what I would do.

Maybe Wednesdays are when she schedules doctor appointments or
something... or she has a friend that is only available to go to lunch
on Wednesdays....

now the question is, how is that so much different from before you retired... <G>

I work generally only two or three days a week.
If my captain has someone available they will work that Wednesday.

Ok, that's better... :)

I was swamped with work the other day. In eight hours I had a total
of two people come to the counter. One a new delivery driver asking
where shipping and receiving was located and the other someone asking where an office was. (There may have been a thir

(and you broke off there)

In the Christian school I was attending, kids got
to skip grades when they were obviously misplaced and needed something
more challenging... or held back if they didn't make the grade

And when I was in school that happened from time to time.
And AFAIK there were no parents storming the school office how mean
the staff was to their baby holding them back.

There was more understanding that learning the material was essential...

We did as much as we could on our own.... And then God supplied the rest
we needed, from the church and from friends... And, eventually, with
renewed employment...

I was always taught to take anything that came along, that something better would come along after that. And it always did. Not
immediately but along the road.
I would go from clean jobs to dirty jobs and eventually back to
clean work again. (Not that there is anything wrong about dirty work).

By the time this happened, neither of us could find anything to do, even
odd jobs... earlier, when we were younger, we did make do with whatever
we could find.... but nobody was hiring someone with some health issues
and over 55....

No, asking someone for a handout is asking for help. Not getting
and keeping a job.

Did said woman have a job....? From her viewpoint, it would appear that
one would need to be independently wealthy to "make it on their own"...

She was of the opinion one can't improve their lives without
someone (government) helping them. Just as a certain politician and
her bootstraps remark.
No, one can pull themselves up by their bootstraps.

As long as there are bootstraps and they aren't broken... I have known
some people that would gladly have done so, if there had been any way
for them to... but there wasn't...

My philosophy of life is if one is knocked down to the ground they
can either wallow in the dirt, or they can get up, dust themselves off
and start over again (like the old song). I may wallow in the dirt a
bit, realise that's not getting me anyway, then

(and you trailed off again)

ttyl neb

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Nancy wrote --

If I really disliked the job I knew I would be there only for a
limited time (days, weeks or months).

So bearable for the sort term... :)

I can handle anything if I know (or feel) there is an end to the
situation.

And between the games, no need to try to find other work for those
workers, as would be if they were on the regular payroll... or paying overtime to workers that already had the hours filled up...

Regular employees where the first ones to fill those spots, then extras
for the rest. Regulars where in more important positions, extras were there wasn't that much responsibility.
But the company had a limited amount of regulars who had that day off.
Weekends are busy times for security since places are closed and need security there at that time.
But there were times people were putting in long hours and OT. They
would have a few hours off (those who worked midnight for example) then back to work, a couple of hours off then right back to work. Sometimes it wasn't unusual for someone to work 18 ho
We used to have newbies (either regulars or extras) who thought working
the ball game they would be watching the game. Most of the time we were so
far from the action we neither saw or heard the game.
The only time anyone saw any of the game were ushers in the stands or on
the field.
The ushers had the best view. On the field the team where we were
stationed blocked our view of the field. :)

I don't go hungry since everyone forces food on me. I
don't want to hurt anyone's feelings so I force myself to over eat. :)

There is that... and you are such a kind considerate person... :)

I am, aren't I? :) (adjusting halo)

And working full time she's pulling down four incomes a month.

I guess the working is for her mental health, then.... getting her out
to be sociable, and keep the brain working...

That's a big part of it no doubt.
She wants to be with Charlie as he gets more senile, yet she also needs
time away from him for her own mental/physical health.

Maybe Wednesdays are when she schedules doctor appointments or
something

No, she likes to schedule those on the four days she's scheduled to work.
:)
She just wants to break up her week.

I work generally only two or three days a week.
If my captain has someone available they will work that Wednesday.

Ok, that's better... :)

When the semester is over in May there are a lot of people who had been working the dorms are put other places to keep them busy. That's how I had
all that time off for my trip. Other than a day here or there I didn't work from mid-May to mid-August. It
And it will be the same this summer. Except no trip is planned. Well, a long one anyway.
The university doesn't really ever stop. Spring semester stops on a
Friday in early May then summer school starts that Monday.
But things are slower, fewer students, all but one dorm closed down,
etc.
That is the time repairs, maintenance and deep cleaning, etc are done in
the dorms, other buildings around campus, etc.

where shipping and receiving was located and the other someone asking where an office was. (There may have been a thir

(and you broke off there)

It was something like "There may have been a third, but don't remember".

By the time this happened, neither of us could find anything to do, even odd

jobs... earlier, when we were younger, we did make do with whatever we could find.... but nobody was hiring someone with some health issues and over 55....

I have been very blessed with good health.
I seldom even get a cold, maybe once every three years.

My philosophy of life is if one is knocked down to the ground they

can either wallow in the dirt, or they can get up, dust themselves off and start over again (like the old song). I may wallow in the dirt a bit,
realise that's not getting me anyway, then

(and you trailed off again)

"then get up and start over" or the like.
Joe
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Quoting Joe Mackey to Nancy Backus on 02-27-20 04:56 <=-

If I really disliked the job I knew I would be there only for a
limited time (days, weeks or months).

So bearable for the short term... :)

I can handle anything if I know (or feel) there is an end to the situation.

One feels less trapped.... :)

And between the games, no need to try to find other work for those
workers, as would be if they were on the regular payroll... or paying overtime to workers that already had the hours filled up...

Regular employees were the first ones to fill those spots, then
extras for the rest. Regulars were in more important positions,
extras where there wasn't that much responsibility.
But the company had a limited amount of regulars who had that day
off. Weekends are busy times for security since places are closed
and need security there at that time.

I was thinking the college, rather than the security company,
actually... but that makes sense for the company to have to hire extras
for weekends...

But there were times people were putting in long hours and OT.
They would have a few hours off (those who worked midnight for example) then back to work, a couple of hours off then right back to work. Sometimes it wasn't unusual for someone to work 18 ho

(you lost stuff again... probably more figures...) One would hope that
anyone that was only getting a couple of hours between shifts was young
and healthy and didn't need much sleep....! And was getting OT to
compensate, besides.... :)

We used to have newbies (either regulars or extras) who thought
working the ball game they would be watching the game. Most of the
time we were so far from the action we neither saw or heard the game. The only time anyone saw any of the game were ushers in the stands
or on the field.
The ushers had the best view. On the field the team where we were stationed blocked our view of the field. :)

So clearly ushering was the plum job... unless one didn't care that much
about the game itself... :)

And working full time she's pulling down four incomes a month.

I guess the working is for her mental health, then.... getting her out
to be sociable, and keep the brain working...

That's a big part of it no doubt.
She wants to be with Charlie as he gets more senile, yet she also
needs time away from him for her own mental/physical health.

It does make sense... as long as she has the stamina to keep going... :)

Maybe Wednesdays are when she schedules doctor appointments or
something

No, she likes to schedule those on the four days she's scheduled to
work. :) She just wants to break up her week.

I suppose at her age, that does make sense....

I work generally only two or three days a week.
If my captain has someone available they will work that Wednesday.

Ok, that's better... :)

When the semester is over in May there are a lot of people who had
been working the dorms are put other places to keep them busy. That's
how I had all that time off for my trip. Other than a day here or
there I didn't work from mid-May to mid-August. It

(Ok, what was that going to be...?)

And it will be the same this summer. Except no trip is planned.
Well, a long one anyway.

You could do a trip then, though... :)

The university doesn't really ever stop. Spring semester stops on a Friday in early May then summer school starts that Monday.
But things are slower, fewer students, all but one dorm closed
down, etc.
That is the time repairs, maintenance and deep cleaning, etc are
done in the dorms, other buildings around campus, etc.

So there's less call for security... and it isn't the sports season for
any sport, so no need for all that army of workers.... :)

where shipping and receiving was located and the other someone asking where an office was. (There may have been a thir

(and you broke off there)

It was something like "There may have been a third, but don't
remember".

That's what I figured... ;) It did seem like a rather cushy job,
except for all that heavy responsibility to have someone there, just in case.... ;)

By the time this happened, neither of us could find anything to do,
even odd jobs... earlier, when we were younger, we did make do with
whatever we could find.... but nobody was hiring someone with some
health issues and over 55....

I have been very blessed with good health.
I seldom even get a cold, maybe once every three years.

That's the way Richard was, pretty much, until he started having the
heart issues....

My philosophy of life is if one is knocked down to the ground they
can either wallow in the dirt, or they can get up, dust themselves
off and start over again (like the old song). I may wallow in the
dirt a bit, realise that's not getting me anyway, then

(and you trailed off again)

"then get up and start over" or the like.

I guessed that much... just wondering if you'd meant to go farther than that.... ;) We didn't wallow in the dirt... just decided it was time to
start calling in the retirement monies... and then we had enough for
ourselves and to again help others, to some extent... :)

ttyl neb

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Nancy wrote --

And between the games, no need to try to find other work for those workers,

No, they were "day labour" for the most part, hired just for that event.
I don't know of any who went full or even part time eventually. May have been that I don't know about.
A few of them looked like they needed security watching them. LOL

then back to work, a couple of hours off then right back to work. Sometimes it wasn't unusual for someone to work 18 ho

(you lost stuff again... probably more figures...)

It was something along the lines of someone working 18 hours, then off a couple then right back to work, within a 24 hour period.
There was one big game some years ago where anyone breathing for miles
around was needed. (This was with a national company I worked for and had
much large work pool to draw from).
I was talking to one woman who said she and her group had worked their regular 8 hour shift, then loaded in a van and driven several hours to work
the game, and then were going back on site to work their next shift. That happened only once that I am aware

So clearly ushering was the plum job... unless one didn't care that much

about the game itself... :)

Yep, that was a cake position, provided the weather was nice.
I did that a few times.
One big game at half time people were leaving the stands to go wherever
and a few visitors asked if drinking were allowed in the stands. No.
They said a group behind them had been drinking so I got another guy (as
a witness) and we went to check.
The area in front of the seats were littered with empty beer cans and i walked along to the end of the row, kicking them out of my way.
I recognised the only guy left of the party at the end as a well known
judge. (The rest had left to do something till the game resumed and
returned).
I asked if that was his seat, had he been there the whole time, yes to
both. I then asked about the beer cans. He had been drinking, slurred
speech, glassy eyed. He then expressed amazement at the cans and wondered where
they came from.
I reminded him there was no drinking in the stands and he of all people should know that and I was going to keep an eye on his party, and the other
guy and I walked away.
Now he he so high (in more ways than one) in the stands I couldn't
clearly see anything that was going on, but every now and then I would turn around
and look in his direction.
After the game he stopped and said he was sorry and wouldn't do it
again. I smiled and nodded, said ok and he went on his way.
I never accused him of drinking, never made an issue of it or anything.

And working full time she's pulling down four incomes a month.

I guess the working is for her mental health, then.... getting her out to

be sociable, and keep the brain working...

Oh, no doubt about it. And with hubby's mental health problems she
needs time away or she would go nutty.

It does make sense... as long as she has the stamina to keep going... :)

The only stamina she really needs is getting and from work. Sitting at a counter doesn't require that much effort.
Everyone there (from the head of the med school department down) knows
her. Just as when in parking I was known from the president of the university on down to newest freshman. For better or worse. :)

And it will be the same this summer. Except no trip is planned.
Well, a long one anyway.

You could do a trip then, though... :)

I am planning on another trip this year, but closer to home.
I am a history buff and plan on spending a couple of weeks just driving around to historic sites in VA. first hitting Lexington, VA, Appomattox,
etc. Then over to Norfolk where I was in the Navy 50 years ago, then to revisit friends in the DC area and hop

But things are slower, fewer students, all but one dorm closed
down, etc.

So there's less call for security... and it isn't the sports season for
any sport, so no need for all that army of workers.... :)

Life is more relaxed in the summer. I always quoted the old song: Summer time and the living is easy.
Marshall, ever on the look out for a few extra bucks, will rent out dorm rooms when there are large events in the area. One year it was some
national soccer event with kids, parents, etc. Last year we had a group of Swedish
scouts going to the BSA Jambore
Joe


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Quoting Joe Mackey to Nancy Backus on 03-02-20 08:39 <=-

And between the games, no need to try to find other work for those workers,

No, they were "day labour" for the most part, hired just for that
event. I don't know of any who went full or even part time
eventually. May have been that I don't know about.
A few of them looked like they needed security watching them. LOL

Hopefully they were merely scruffy, but otherwise honest... ;)

then back to work, a couple of hours off then right back to work. Sometimes it wasn't unusual for someone to work 18 ho

(you lost stuff again... probably more figures...)

It was something along the lines of someone working 18 hours, then
off a couple then right back to work, within a 24 hour period.

I guess that would be during the busy season....

There was one big game some years ago where anyone breathing for
miles around was needed. (This was with a national company I worked
for and had much large work pool to draw from).
I was talking to one woman who said she and her group had worked
their regular 8 hour shift, then loaded in a van and driven several
hours to work the game, and then were going back on site to work their next shift. That happened only once that I am aware

A game that big probably was close to unique... and needed extraordinary staffing.... I can see where that would be memorable... Presumably that
crew survived... ;) They'd've been pretty tired at the end of it... :)

So clearly ushering was the plum job... unless one didn't care that
much about the game itself... :)

Yep, that was a cake position, provided the weather was nice.
I did that a few times.
One big game at half time people were leaving the stands to go
wherever and a few visitors asked if drinking were allowed in the
stands. No. They said a group behind them had been drinking so I got another guy (as a witness) and we went to check.
The area in front of the seats were littered with empty beer cans
and i walked along to the end of the row, kicking them out of my way.
I recognised the only guy left of the party at the end was a well
known judge. (The rest had left to do something till the game resumed
and returned).
I asked if that was his seat, had he been there the whole time, yes
to both. I then asked about the beer cans. He had been drinking,
slurred speech, glassy eyed. He then expressed amazement at the cans
and wondered where they came from.
I reminded him there was no drinking in the stands and he of all
people should know that and I was going to keep an eye on his party,
and the other guy and I walked away.
Now he was so high (in more ways than one) in the stands I couldn't clearly see anything that was going on, but every now and then I would turn around and look in his direction.
After the game he stopped and said he was sorry and wouldn't do it
again. I smiled and nodded, said ok and he went on his way.
I never accused him of drinking, never made an issue of it or
anything.

But he still learned his lesson... :) And was probably thankful that
you hadn't raised a fuss....

And working full time she's pulling down four incomes a month.

I guess the working is for her mental health, then.... getting her
out to be sociable, and keep the brain working...

Oh, no doubt about it. And with hubby's mental health problems she
needs time away or she would go nutty.

It does make sense... as long as she has the stamina to keep going... :)

The only stamina she really needs is getting and from work. Sitting
at a counter doesn't require that much effort.

The making it there was what I mostly meant... ;)

Everyone there (from the head of the med school department down)
knows her. Just as when in parking I was known from the president of
the university on down to newest freshman. For better or worse. :)

The fixtures, so to speak... :)

And it will be the same this summer. Except no trip is planned.
Well, a long one anyway.

You could do a trip then, though... :)

I am planning on another trip this year, but closer to home.
I am a history buff and plan on spending a couple of weeks just
driving around to historic sites in VA. first hitting Lexington, VA, Appomattox, etc. Then over to Norfolk where I was in the Navy 50 years ago, then to revisit friends in the DC area and hop

That sounds like a nice trip, too... where to after the DC area....?

But things are slower, fewer students, all but one dorm closed
down, etc.

So there's less call for security... and it isn't the sports season for
any sport, so no need for all that army of workers.... :)

Life is more relaxed in the summer. I always quoted the old song:
Summer time and the living is easy.

Quite appropriate... ;)

Marshall, ever on the look out for a few extra bucks, will rent out
dorm rooms when there are large events in the area. One year it was
some national soccer event with kids, parents, etc. Last year we had a group of Swedish scouts going to the BSA Jambore

BSA Jamboree...? Somewhere in the vicinity, I presume...?

Makes sense, though... the rooms are there, empty and available... :)
They probably made more than enough to cover the cost of the extra
security and all... :)

ttyl neb

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Nancy wrote --

Hopefully they were merely scruffy, but otherwise honest... ;)

We had a few who were more than scruffy.
Usually this dealt with someone on a reserved lot selling a parking space
and pocketing the money. Space was sold on the number of slots on that lot,
be it 15, 50 or 500 spaces. Some lots had numbered spaces with a correlated parking permit for that lot/s

I never accused him of drinking, never made an issue of it or
anything.

But he still learned his lesson... :) And was probably thankful that
you hadn't raised a fuss....

After the game he came up to me, apologised, he was wrong-I was right,
doing my job, etc.

That sounds like a nice trip, too... where to after the DC area....?

I hope to make it to Gettysburg this year, then turning west and back
home.

group of Swedish scouts going to the BSA Jambore

BSA Jamboree...? Somewhere in the vicinity, I presume...?

Yeah, it was held in the eastern panhandle near DC.
There were several hundred of them who flew from Sweden to, I think, the
west coast, then had huge motor coaches that took them on a tour of the country. This was their last stop before the DC area (about eight hours away).
They were a good group of kids but mischievous among themselves. One
thing someone in their group did was change the wifi password and those kids were lost without their social media. :)
I learned from one of the adults they were doing things like that all
the time.
Joe
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Quoting Joe Mackey to Nancy Backus on 03-07-20 06:21 <=-

Hopefully they were merely scruffy, but otherwise honest... ;)

We had a few who were more than scruffy.
Usually this dealt with someone on a reserved lot selling a parking
space and pocketing the money. Space was sold on the number of slots
on that lot, be it 15, 50 or 500 spaces. Some lots had numbered spaces with a correlated parking permit for that lot/s

[pace......] I presume more information about the scam...?

I never accused him of drinking, never made an issue of it or
anything.

But he still learned his lesson... :) And was probably thankful that
you hadn't raised a fuss....

After the game he came up to me, apologised, he was wrong-I was
right, doing my job, etc.

Apparently sobered up a bit during the second half of the game... and
realized how close he'd come to really making a muck of things... even
judges can be brought to court over violations... and have a lot more to
lose if convicted....

That sounds like a nice trip, too... where to after the DC area....?

I hope to make it to Gettysburg this year, then turning west and
back home.

More of a history trip than a visiting one then... :)

group of Swedish scouts going to the BSA Jambore

BSA Jamboree...? Somewhere in the vicinity, I presume...?

Yeah, it was held in the eastern panhandle near DC.
There were several hundred of them who flew from Sweden to, I think,
the west coast, then had huge motor coaches that took them on a tour of the country. This was their last stop before the DC area (about eight hours away).

So they made good use of their trip... :)

They were a good group of kids but mischievous among themselves.
One thing someone in their group did was change the wifi password
and those kids were lost without their social media. :) I learned
from one of the adults they were doing things like that all the time.

High-spirited pranksters.... Sounds like they kept the adult chaperones busy.... :)

ttyl neb

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Nancy wrote --

Some lots had numbered spaces with a correlated parking permit for that

lot/s

[pace......] I presume more information about the scam...?

The problems were with the numbered spaces on the lot, the closer to the action the more costly. If an unnumbered space lot far away it was first come/first served and no one was the wiser.
The outer lots are used by university groups (frats, sororities, clubs,
etc) for fund raisers and have their own people on those. Those usually ran about ten bucks per game and included visiting fan parking.
The permits also have the space number on it so one can easily check if
they are in the proper space or not.
Nearer the stadium (in football season) a single space can run up to $1k+
for a season (five or six home games). Those are the high rollers. You
could get a reserved a block from the stadium for as "low" as $500 a season. That's the low rent district. :
In addition to that the university sells skybox seating which can run
several thousand a season.
Most of those are rented by company's and probably a business related tax write off.

I hope to make it to Gettysburg this year, then turning west and
back home.

More of a history trip than a visiting one then... :)

The only visiting I will be doing are a couple of friends in Alexandria
and that will be lunch.
All the rest of the trip is come and go as I please. :)

They were a good group of kids but mischievous among themselves.
One thing someone in their group did was change the wifi password
and those kids were lost without their social media. :)

High-spirited pranksters.... Sounds like they kept the adult chaperones

busy.... :)

That they did! :)
But even the adults seemed to enjoy the pranks.
Joe
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Quoting Joe Mackey to Nancy Backus on 03-11-20 06:08 <=-

Some lots had numbered spaces with a correlated parking permit for
that lot/s

[pace......] I presume more information about the scam...?

The problems were with the numbered spaces on the lot, the closer to
the action the more costly. If an unnumbered space lot far away it was first come/first served and no one was the wiser.
The outer lots are used by university groups (frats, sororities,
clubs, etc) for fund raisers and have their own people on those. Those usually ran about ten bucks per game and included visiting fan parking. The permits also have the space number on it so one can easily check
if they are in the proper space or not.

So visiting fans would pay to the group's representative at the lot...?

Nearer the stadium (in football season) a single space can run up to
$1k+ for a season (five or six home games). Those are the high
rollers. You could get a reserved space a block from the stadium for
as "low" as $500 a season. That's the low rent district. :

And those are the lots where the unscrupulous security person might be
scalping spaces (and pocketing the proceeds)....?

In addition to that the university sells skybox seating which can
run several thousand a season.
Most of those are rented by company's and probably a business
related tax write off.

Probably... especially as it's an educational institution's sports
program.... ;)

I hope to make it to Gettysburg this year, then turning west and
back home.

More of a history trip than a visiting one then... :)

The only visiting I will be doing are a couple of friends in
Alexandria and that will be lunch.
All the rest of the trip is come and go as I please. :)

Sounds lovely... <G>

They were a good group of kids but mischievous among themselves.
One thing someone in their group did was change the wifi password
and those kids were lost without their social media. :)

High-spirited pranksters.... Sounds like they kept the adult
chaperones busy.... :)

That they did! :)
But even the adults seemed to enjoy the pranks.

Fortunately, for the well-being of all.... ;)

ttyl neb

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Nancy wrote --

The permits also have the space number on it so one can easily check if

they are in the proper space or not.

So visiting fans would pay to the group's representative at the lot...?

The "owner" of that space can lend their permit to anyone they want.
If the owner can't make the game they can loan it to someone who can. So long as the lot/space number match they're fine.
The only problem would be if someone lost their permit and reported it
then people would be on the lookout for it.
Sort of like someone buying a seat for a game, having the ticket stolen
then just wait till someone sits in that seat and check them out.
Now the company I work for has nothing to do with these permits, etc any longer, another company has that job.
What I do is being contracted, through the company, by the owner of that
one smallish lot, for traffic control. And that lot is privately owned and that owner sells spaces. There are around 40 of them.
And I am the only one from the company there. Lucky me.
IOW, someone buys a space, they are given a permit with the space number
on it, and its up to me to make sure someone who doesn't belong doesn't
parks there.
After a game or two I recognise the owner and their vehicle and just wave them on even if they may forget their permit, knowing they are good.
The only confusion to this is if someone buys a new car so they are not
waved on until I more closely check them out.
Now if someone who doesn't belong is in a space when I arrive I will
contact the lot owner and they could have that car towed.
The university puts warnings on cars on the high end stadium area for
several days before a home game to have it off the lot by 0800 game day or be towed. If on game day a car is in that space out it goes. (There are also signs at the entrance warning of
I recall one year one of the big wigs in athletics, holding a clip board,
had a fleet of tow trucks "relocate" a bunch of cars.
I was talking to a group of people as cars were towed and this girl came
up saying she didn't think they would really tow. She found out she was
wrong. Others would complain as well and find out that yes, they would be and were towed.

as "low" as $500 a season. That's the low rent district. :

And those are the lots where the unscrupulous security person might be scalping spaces (and pocketing the proceeds)....?

Yep.

But even the adults seemed to enjoy the pranks.

Fortunately, for the well-being of all.... ;)

I watched as some of the adults would be standing around shaking their
heads and trying to hold back chuckles as these social media deprived kids
were wandering about like zombies. :)
Joe

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Joe,

A few of them looked like they needed security watching them. LOL

Darn!! My cover has been blown. <BG> For that matter, it has with this message...although it won't go out until Friday, as I wait for new
nodelists to take effect (I've requested the Continuous Mail flag
removed). In the nearly 43 years I've lived in Arkansas, this is the
stormiest spring I've ever seen.

I was talking to one woman who said she and her group had worked their
regular 8 hour shift, then loaded in a van and driven several hours to work JM>the game, and then were going back on site to work their next shift. That JM>happened only once that I am aware

I did a 24 hour shift one time at Burger King 40 years ago...that was exhausting in so many ways.

So clearly ushering was the plum job... unless one didn't care that much JM>about the game itself... :)

My late father did that at the long gone Orange Bowl stadium in Miami, Florida...as the University Of Miami was his alma mater. I still follow
their sports to this day. With him being usher, we got in the games for
free.

Yep, that was a cake position, provided the weather was nice.

Cake??!! Where??!! What flavor??!! <G> Besides, if you eat the entire
cake at once, you've only had "one piece". <BG>

I never accused him of drinking, never made an issue of it or anything.

So much for having connections. :P

I am planning on another trip this year, but closer to home.

For me, the trips are between the bedroom, bathroom, and kitchen. <G>

So there's less call for security... and it isn't the sports season for JM>> any sport, so no need for all that army of workers.... :)

And, those wanting sports are having a conniption fit!!

Life is more relaxed in the summer. I always quoted the old song: Summer
time and the living is easy.

That's what singing ventriloquist Darci Lynn Farmer had her rabbit,
Petunia, sing, at her audition with America's Got Talent. She got the
golden buzzer, and eventually won it all that year...at 12 years of age. Petunia, according to Darci, is a rabbit who thinks she's a diva. <G>

scouts going to the BSA Jambore

All I could think of was the Hollywood Squares deal about the campfire
girls after dark. <G>

Daryl

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Joe,

We had a few who were more than scruffy.

I may get that way, if the COVID-19 doesn't end soon. All of the
barbershops, beauty shops, massage parlors, tattoo places, etc. are
CLOSED until further notice.

I hope to make it to Gettysburg this year, then turning west and back
home.

You'll find Abraham Lincoln at his Gettysburg address. <G>

They were a good group of kids but mischievous among themselves. One
thing someone in their group did was change the wifi password and those kids JM>were lost without their social media. :)

LOL...I'll bet!! Can you say "no pressure to behave??". <BG>

Daryl

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