Hey Andrew!

No, it sounds fun to me actually ;)

Surprisingly enough it has so far gone really smooth (almost finished xorg), but I am willing to bet that firefox will be a bust for now. It ALWAYS gives me trouble after upgrading gcc. The last successful firefox build was with a gcc-9.3.0/glibc-2.31 based system.

Life is good,
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Maurice Kinal wrote to Andrew Alt <=-

Not really. My motivation is that for the last 20 years or so I've had
an up-to-date bootable, customized, linux-gnu partition going and if I
am stubborn enough I could have one going for the next 20 years. That
is and has been my primary evil, demented plan and I see no good reason
to stop now.

Do you?

No, it sounds fun to me actually ;)

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Hey Andrew!

Are there any particular changes, new features, or bug fixes
expected for 2.32 that you're looking forward to?

Not really. My motivation is that for the last 20 years or so I've had an up-to-date bootable, customized, linux-gnu partition going and if I am stubborn enough I could have one going for the next 20 years. That is and has been my primary evil, demented plan and I see no good reason to stop now.

Do you?

Life is good,
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Surprisingly enough it has so far gone really smooth (almost finished xorg), but I am willing to bet that firefox will be a bust for now. It ALWAYS gives me trouble after upgrading gcc. The last successful
firefox build was with a gcc-9.3.0/glibc-2.31 based system.

And how was it this time, Maurice?

Me and a friend have a started working on a network multiplayer poker game, coded
in Rust. (It won't be done for a while yet). Terminal-based, probably will just

include 5-card draw and a couple stud variations.

Poker is somewhat a tradition in our family... I first learned when I was about 9.
We do it as a family when we get together sometimes during holidays and special

occasions. We play with the kids (my nephews), never for money.

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Hey Andrew!

And how was it this time, Maurice?

Unfortunetly as predicted. Everything else went remarkably smooth, including a rustc update to 1.45.2 which is the latest.

Terminal-based

Excellent. I am not much of a gamer but it sounds like it is worth a looksee given the "Terminal-based". :-)

We play with the kids (my nephews), never for money.

Understood. Not much money to win - or lose as the case may be - around here.

Life is good,
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Maurice Kinal wrote to Andrew Alt <=-

Terminal-based

Excellent. I am not much of a gamer but it sounds like it is worth a looksee given the "Terminal-based". :-)

Oh, I appreciate that! It's the "telluricdeckay" project on this GitHub org page:
https://github.com/TelluricDeckay

The other two projects listed there are libraries we wrote for the program.

The hand-eval library isn't complete yet; it needs a function to compare between 2
or more poker hands to see which is higher, in the event of a tie (e.g. if > 1 player has a pair, two-pair, etc).

Right now, it only has a function to figure out if a hand of five cards contains a
pair, two-pair, three-of-a-kind, etc.

No Contributing doc yet, but that should come soon after we add more to the code-base and make start making tickets. Maybe I'll make a ticket for the compare
function.. I think I might need a short break from alogorithms! Also.. I haven't
figured out how to do it yet! ;)

Anyway.. the app isn't finished yet, Maurice, but I can definitely give you a ping
when there's a playable prototype. :)

I may try a Rust library and give the app sound effects. But if that means too much bloat for your tastes, I'll avoid that! :)

I'm not much of a gamer either, but probably more than you from the sounds of it.
These days, I play 0 A.D. a few hours a week against the AI with a friend of mine.
Though I've been coding so much lately, haven't played in over a week.

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Hey Andrew!

https://github.com/TelluricDeckay

Bookmarked it and will definetly clone it later this week. I am giving myself at least a couple days off while the dust settles on these latest upgrades. I think I deserve it.

The other two projects listed there are libraries we wrote for
the program.

I'll have a looksee at them all.

I may try a Rust library and give the app sound effects. But if
that means too much bloat for your tastes, I'll avoid that! :)

Knock yourself out. I have sound on two of the machines - this one and x86_64-heatsink-linux-gnu - both of which have the alsa mixer available to the 'linux' terminal as well as fbdev2 if you REALLY want to get fancy with the output. I cannot get the unicode playing cards enabled on the 'linux' terminal to display (yet) but they could work in a xterm which I do have on x86_64-motorshed-linux-gnu. ;-) Check out http://www.unicode.org/charts/PDF/U1F0A0.pdf if you wish to see what they look like.

These days, I play 0 A.D. a few hours a week against the AI with
a friend of mine.

I have cpat handy on all three machines, which is a ncurses based solitaire game. The default in cpat-1.4.1 is to use unicode but I just use 'cpat -a' for colourized ascii output. I haven't tried it in xorg yet so I am unsure what I'd have to do to get the unicode output. I'll try that later if you're curious.

Life is good,
Maurice

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Hallo Maurice!

I have sound on two of the machines - this one and x86_64-heatsink-linux-gnu

All three since x86_64-lmbrain-linux-gnu's lscpi reports "Audio device: Intel Corporation NM10/ICH7 Family High Definition Audio Controller (rev 02)". Beats me if it actually works since we never put any sound apps on there to try it out.

Het leven is goed,
Maurice

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Hello Maurice!

17 Aug 2020 21:52, Maurice Kinal wrote to Maurice Kinal:

Beats me if it actually works since we never
put any sound apps on there to try it out.

silence is golden :)


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Hallo Benny!

silence is golden :)

+1

Het leven is goed,
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Maurice Kinal wrote to Andrew Alt <=-

Hey Andrew!

https://github.com/TelluricDeckay

Bookmarked it and will definetly clone it later this week. I am giving myself at least a couple days off while the dust settles on these
latest upgrades. I think I deserve it.

Well, we've decided to go full GUI and use 'iced' as the library. Though I'm stuck
figuring out how to code the flow with the GUI, and have cataract surgery scheduled on Oct 2, so I may just quit for now, clear my head and make sure I'm

caught up on sleep and pain management before the surgery.

The good news is, rmw will always be non-GUI! I'd be interested in your opinion of
that if it strikes your interest. I've been working on it for almost ten years now
https://remove-to-waste.info/

rmw (ReMove to Waste) is a safe-remove utility for the command line. Its goal is
to conform to the FreeDesktop.org Trash specification and therefore be compatible
with KDE, GNOME, XFCE, and others. Desktop integration is optional however, and by
default, rmw will only use a waste folder separated from your desktop trash. One
of its unique features is the ability to purge files from your Waste/Trash directories after x number of days.

Also I took over as maintainer of the abandoned modemu project, which I use to connect to Prism BBS with minicom.
https://github.com/theimpossibleastronaut/modemu2k


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Hey Andrew!

Though I'm stuck figuring out how to code the flow with the GUI,
and have cataract surgery scheduled on Oct 2,

Ouch. I don't envy you any, especially the surgery part. As for programming, I swore off of GUI progamming after writing a printer driver for Win-3.1 way back in the day. I've lived up to that oath ever since which makes it about 30-ish years.

so I may just quit for now, clear my head and make sure I'm
caught up on sleep and pain management before the surgery.

Sounds like a plan. Everything will keep in the meantime I am sure.

https://remove-to-waste.info/

Consider it bookmarked. :-)

Also I took over as maintainer of the abandoned modemu project

That sounds familiar. If I am not mistaken I first heard about it back in 1995-ish perhaps a year or two later. I last had a working modem (external) around then so something like that would have gotten my attention.

https://github.com/theimpossibleastronaut/modemu2k

Also bookmarked. I'll check it out later as you've got my curiousity aroused. I am not sure at this stage of the game I'd be keen to use a modem emulator on minicom. The last time I played with minicom was to output raw GPS sentences from a usb GPS reciever about 15-ish years ago. I still have the reciever but last time I played with it was with gpsd.

Life is good,
Maurice

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Maurice Kinal wrote to Andrew Alt <=-

Hey Andrew!

Though I'm stuck figuring out how to code the flow with the GUI,
and have cataract surgery scheduled on Oct 2,

Ouch. I don't envy you any, especially the surgery part. As for programming, I swore off of GUI progamming after writing a printer
driver for Win-3.1 way back in the day. I've lived up to that oath
ever since which makes it about 30-ish years.

My first attempt at GUI programming. I think for me the one big advantage to being
able to write an app with a GUI is that maybe my nephews and nieces will be more
interested in software I develop! :)

https://remove-to-waste.info/

Consider it bookmarked. :-)

Thanks. :)

Also I took over as maintainer of the abandoned modemu project

That sounds familiar. If I am not mistaken I first heard about it back
in 1995-ish perhaps a year or two later. I last had a working modem (external) around then so something like that would have gotten my attention.

That must be the same one. The copyright info in the source indicates 1996. I can't say I understand the code much, but I was able to make it ipv6 capable, fixed some warnings, and made sure it would compile with gcc 10 (made sure it compiles with the -fno-common flag), and added a configure script (with autoconf).

I actually got some very nice feedback from the sysop of the Rusty Mailbox last

year. He said he noticed it come through filegate and tried it out. He was a regular use of modemu but it stopped working for him. It worked for him after my
updates :)

https://github.com/theimpossibleastronaut/modemu2k

Also bookmarked. I'll check it out later as you've got my curiousity aroused. I am not sure at this stage of the game I'd be keen to use a modem emulator on minicom. The last time I played with minicom was to output raw GPS sentences from a usb GPS reciever about 15-ish years
ago. I still have the reciever but last time I played with it was with gpsd.

Sure, I wasn't really recommending you switch from whatever you use now, just me
shamelessly advertising a little. More fun to maintain software when people know
about it.

Though I think rmw you'd definitely have a use for! Great for anyone who works at
the command line when they are tired. ;)

Are you working on any interesting projects these days, Maurice?

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Hey Andrew!

I think for me the one big advantage to being able to write an
app with a GUI is that maybe my nephews and nieces will be more
interested in software I develop! :)

That might work. All I know is that everytime a young person comes over to my place it is to get their device(s) to connect to the wifi. Once that happens they lose interest in what I do although they are totally amazed that whatever I am typing at the keyboard seems to get amazing things to happen. They always ask me how I know what to type to make whatever they see going on - usually on the monitor - happen. It is then I show them a commandline to play a movie which totally floors them. I have a trailer with lego characters doing the "Knights of The Round Table" song and dance from Monty Python's "Search For The Huly Grail" on hand for such occasions.

The copyright info in the source indicates 1996.

That sounds about right. It has been awhile and I am at the age where senior's moments are noticeably on the increase. :-/

just me shamelessly advertising a little.

That works for me. Glad to be of service.

Are you working on any interesting projects these days, Maurice?

Not really at the moment. I was working on getting the two wifi access points up to speed but everyone concerned seems happiest when I leave well enough alone. I was hoping to get a mesh network going but there is a lack of individuals up to the task so I've put that on the back burner and I suspect it'll eventually get abandoned. Too bad since I see some fun to be had there.

Life is good,
Maurice

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Maurice Kinal wrote to Andrew Alt <=-

Hey Andrew!

I think for me the one big advantage to being able to write an
app with a GUI is that maybe my nephews and nieces will be more
interested in software I develop! :)

That might work. All I know is that everytime a young person comes
over to my place it is to get their device(s) to connect to the wifi.
Once that happens they lose interest in what I do although they are totally amazed that whatever I am typing at the keyboard seems to get amazing things to happen. They always ask me how I know what to type

I can relate to that to your experience. :)

to make whatever they see going on - usually on the monitor - happen.
It is then I show them a commandline to play a movie which totally
floors them. I have a trailer with lego characters doing the "Knights
of The Round Table" song and dance from Monty Python's "Search For The Huly Grail" on hand for such occasions.

Very thoughtful of you, Maurice. :)

The copyright info in the source indicates 1996.

That sounds about right. It has been awhile and I am at the age where senior's moments are noticeably on the increase. :-/

Ah.. Benjamin Button's syndrome? ;)

I wanted to check in a bit. I had cataract surgery in my right eye on Oct 2 and my
left is scheduled for the 16th. Surgery went well, very smooth, no problems. My

distance vision in my right eye is darn near perfect. Don't even need glasses for
that eye anymore. I haven't even been wearing my glasses since I got surgeried.

Still pretty awkward though considering the vision in my left eye is very bad, but
I expect that to get corrected from the surgery this Friday. I'll still need glasses for reading.

Using the computer is still a bit challenging. I got some OTC reading glasses that
make the right eye good, but not the left. Again, after surgery, the reading glasses should help with that eye as well, or I can get a prescription pair about
4 weeks after surgery.

How are things on your end?


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Hallo Andrew!

MK>> senior's moments are noticeably on the increase. :-/

Ah.. Benjamin Button's syndrome? ;)

Heh, heh. Without knowing for sure I believe I am more or less average for my age regarding frequency of senior's moments ... and yes I am officially in the realm of seniors (65 and over).

I had cataract surgery in my right eye on Oct 2 and my left is
scheduled for the 16th. Surgery went well, very smooth, no
problems. My distance vision in my right eye is darn near perfect.

Good to hear. I don't have cataracts but my vision started going south in my late 40's. Before that I had 20/20 vision in both eyes, as well as excellent peripheral and night vision. The peripheral vision is still good but everything else is nowhere as good as it used to be. Mind you I could say the same about everything as time goes by.

I got some OTC reading glasses

I can relate. Also I am using kbd's LatGrkCyr-12x22 consolefont so I can read these msgs without glasses. Works like a charm. Everything else I definetly need glasses. :::sigh:::

How are things on your end?

At the moment I am doing okay all things considered. However some extra cash for an epyc server wouldn't hurt my feelings any. I see a supermicro one that has caught my eye but my bank account says it is a no-go. Stinkin' banks.

Het leven is goed,
Maurice

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Maurice Kinal wrote to Andrew Alt <=-

Hallo Andrew!

Good to hear. I don't have cataracts but my vision started going south
in my late 40's. Before that I had 20/20 vision in both eyes, as well
as excellent peripheral and night vision. The peripheral vision is
still good but everything else is nowhere as good as it used to be.
Mind you I could say the same about everything as time goes by.

I've been wearing glasses for distance since I was 11 or 12 (47 now).

Left eye was done on Friday. All good. I can see fine without glasses now, but not
20/20. Quite a change from my previous life. ;)

I got some OTC reading glasses

I can relate. Also I am using kbd's LatGrkCyr-12x22 consolefont so I
can read these msgs without glasses. Works like a charm. Everything
else I definetly need glasses. :::sigh:::

I use xfce-terminal with monospace regular 16. Though I could probably decrease

that now if I wanted to.

How are things on your end?

At the moment I am doing okay all things considered. However some
extra cash for an epyc server wouldn't hurt my feelings any. I see a supermicro one that has caught my eye but my bank account says it is a no-go. Stinkin' banks.

Banks are great because they feed satirists, and writers on SNL. 2008 and 2009 was
a great year ;) (I've been watching a lot of SNL reruns during the pandemic)

Het leven is goed,

Das Leben ist gut.

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Hey Andrew!

Quite a change from my previous life.

That is good to hear.

I've been watching a lot of SNL reruns during the pandemic

At the moment I don't have a TV but can stream off the internet if needed. I seriously doubt I am missing much.

Life is good,
Maurice

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Hello Maurice!

19 Oct 2020 01:24, Maurice Kinal wrote to Andrew Alt:

Quite a change from my previous life.

That is good to hear.

+1

I've been watching a lot of SNL reruns during the pandemic

At the moment I don't have a TV but can stream off the internet if needed. I seriously doubt I am missing much.

life is good without the fake news from usa, lets hope corona stop it

i have now 6 months free amazon prime, dont know if i keep it :)


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Hallo Benny!

life is good without the fake news from usa, lets hope corona
stop it

Last time I checked, news is still news, fake or otherwise. BTW which is the fake news and how do you tell the difference?

i have now 6 months free amazon prime, dont know if i keep it :)

If you're talking about the streaming part then I wouldn't bother with it. Same with netflix (I hear they may be going out of business) and the rest. A total waste of money and bandwidth. I used to like streaming audio from CBC Radio One but they switched their service and now I can no longer use commandline mplayer|mpg123 so that is no longer doable. Oh well.

Anyhow streaming can and does work in linux although in most cases it isn't worth it. The more reliable methods are falling by the wayside.

Speaking of graphics, I saw six penguins on bootup on the new box yesterday -> Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-9400 CPU @ 2.90GHz

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I haven't tested mplayer on the console yet but plan to sometime later today. If that works then I plan to create an nvme root/boot of it.

Starting to take shape ... again.

Het leven is goed,
Maurice

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