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    From Berki Yenigüun@1:103/705 to All on Tue Jan 11 19:29:00 2022
    First message on Fidonet, trying to figure out how this works compared to

    Usenet. Hello all by the way, and happy new year.




    ... MultiMail, the new multi-platform, multi-format offline reader!
    --- MultiMail/Linux v0.52
    * Origin: Vertrauen - [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.net (1:103/705)
  • From Vincent Coen@2:250/1 to Berki Yenigüun on Tue Jan 11 19:49:55 2022
    Hello Berki!

    Tuesday January 11 2022 19:29, you wrote to All:

    @TZUTC: -0800
    @MSGID: 11440.fidotest@1:103/705 26433f6c
    @PID: Synchronet 3.19c-Win32 master/1d88d8092 Jan 10 2022 MSC 1928
    @TID: SBBSecho 3.14-Linux master/eb2f9e984 Jan 2 2022 GCC 8.3.0
    @CHRS: UTF-8 4
    First message on Fidonet, trying to figure out how this works compared
    to

    Usenet. Hello all by the way, and happy new year.




    ... MultiMail, the new multi-platform, multi-format offline reader!

    SEEN-BY: 1/120 18/0 19/10 25/0 21 103/705 116/116 123/0 25 40 115 160
    180 190
    SEEN-BY: 123/200 755 124/5016 134/101 135/300 153/757 7715 154/10
    203/0
    SEEN-BY: 218/700 221/0 1 6 360 222/2 240/1120 5832 250/0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7
    8 10 21
    SEEN-BY: 261/1466 263/0 280/464 5003 5555 292/854 8125 299/6 301/1
    310/31
    SEEN-BY: 320/119 219 335/364 341/66 234 396/45 423/81 120 460/58 256
    1124 5858
    SEEN-BY: 640/1138 1321 1384 712/848 770/1 2452/250 3634/0 12 15 24 27
    50 119
    SEEN-BY: 4500/1 4600/140 5020/1042 5054/30
    @PATH: 103/705 280/464 460/58 221/6 1 640/1384 3634/12 250/1

    Received in the UK.

    Vincent

    --- Mageia Linux v8 X64/Mbse v1.0.7.24/GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5-b20180707
    * Origin: Air Applewood, The Linux Gateway to the UK & Eire (2:250/1)
  • From Ward Dossche@2:292/854 to Vincent Coen on Tue Jan 11 22:20:19 2022
    Received in the UK.

    Ahhhh ... Brexit country ... 8-)

    \%/@rd

    --- DB4 - Jan 09 2022
    * Origin: Hou het veilig, hou vol. Het komt allemaal weer goed (2:292/854)
  • From mark lewis@1:3634/12.73 to Berki Yenig├╝un on Tue Jan 11 16:25:14 2022
    On 2022 Jan 11 19:29:00, you wrote to All:

    @TZUTC: -0800
    @MSGID: 11440.fidotest@1:103/705 26433f6c
    @PID: Synchronet 3.19c-Win32 master/1d88d8092 Jan 10 2022 MSC 1928
    @TID: SBBSecho 3.14-Linux master/eb2f9e984 Jan 2 2022 GCC 8.3.0
    @BBSID: VERT
    @CHRS: UTF-8 4
    First message on Fidonet, trying to figure out how this works compared to

    Usenet. Hello all by the way, and happy new year.




    ... MultiMail, the new multi-platform, multi-format offline reader!
    --- MultiMail/Linux v0.52
    * Origin: Vertrauen - [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.net (1:103/705)
    SEEN-BY: 103/705 124/5016 134/101 153/757 154/10 19/10 203/0 218/700 221/0 1
    SEEN-BY: 221/360 6 240/1120 5832 2452/250 280/464 5003 5555 292/8125 854 301/1
    SEEN-BY: 310/31 320/119 219 335/364 341/234 66 3634/12 396/45 423/120 81 SEEN-BY: 4500/1 460/1124 256 58 5858 4600/140 5020/1042 5054/30 640/1138 1384
    SEEN-BY: 712/848 770/1 116/116 123/25 755 135/300 153/7715 154/10 3634/15 24
    SEEN-BY: 3634/27 50 119 123/115 160 180 40 299/6 123/190 200 222/2 250/1 SEEN-BY: 240/1120 261/1466 640/1321 3634/12 0 18/0 123/0 1/120
    @PATH: 103/705 280/464 460/58 221/6 1 640/1384 3634/12



    )\/(ark

    "The soul of a small kitten in the body of a mighty dragon. Look on my majesty, ye mighty, and despair! Or bring me catnip. Your choice. Oooh, a shiny thing!"
    ... By following the good, you learn to be genius.
    ---
    * Origin: (1:3634/12.73)
  • From Shaun Buzza@1:229/110 to Berki Yenigüun on Tue Jan 11 16:39:20 2022
    On 11 Jan 2022, Berki Yenigüun said the following...

    First message on Fidonet, trying to figure out how this works compared
    to

    Usenet. Hello all by the way, and happy new year.




    ... MultiMail, the new multi-platform, multi-format offline reader!
    --- MultiMail/Linux v0.52
    * Origin: Vertrauen - [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.net (1:103/705)

    Welcome!

    McDoob
    SysOp, PiBBS
    pibbs.sytes.net

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A46 2020/08/26 (Raspberry Pi/32)
    * Origin: PiBBS (1:229/110)
  • From Daryl Stout@1:2320/33 to Berki Yenigüun on Tue Jan 11 22:39:00 2022
    Berki,

    First message on Fidonet, trying to figure out how this works compared
    to

    Usenet. Hello all by the way, and happy new year.

    It made it to Arkansas.

    Daryl

    ... I may not always be right, but I'm never wrong.
    === MultiMail/Win v0.52
    --- SBBSecho 3.14-Win32
    * Origin: The Thunderbolt BBS - Little Rock, Arkansas (1:2320/33)
  • From Tommi Koivula@2:221/6 to Berki Yenigüun on Wed Jan 12 10:52:48 2022
    On 12.1.2022 5.29, Berki Yenigüun wrote:

    First message on Fidonet,

    Welcome. Your UTF8 name "Yenigüun" might not show ok in fido. :)

    'Tommi

    ---
    * Origin: nntp://news.fidonet.fi (2:221/6.0)
  • From Björn Wiberg@2:201/137 to Berki Yenig├╝un on Wed Jan 12 10:32:04 2022
    Hello Berki!

    On 11 Jan 2022, Berki Yenigüun said the following...

    First message on Fidonet, trying to figure out how this works compared
    to

    Usenet. Hello all by the way, and happy new year.




    ... MultiMail, the new multi-platform, multi-format offline reader!
    --- MultiMail/Linux v0.52
    * Origin: Vertrauen - [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.net (1:103/705)

    Works fine (although some character in your last name got mangled here -- perhaps due to my tosser/BBS software not handling special characters correctly).

    Happy New Year!

    Best regards
    Bjrn

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A47 2021/12/24 (Linux/64)
    * Origin: Star Collision BBS, Uppsala, Sweden (2:201/137)
  • From Michiel van der Vlist@2:280/5555 to Berki Yenigüun on Wed Jan 12 11:44:14 2022
    Hello Berki,

    On Tuesday January 11 2022 19:29, you wrote to All:

    @MSGID: 11440.fidotest@1:103/705 26433f6c
    @PID: Synchronet 3.19c-Win32 master/1d88d8092 Jan 10 2022 MSC 1928
    @TZUTC: -0800
    @TID: SBBSecho 3.14-Linux master/eb2f9e984 Jan 2 2022 GCC 8.3.0
    @BBSID: VERT
    @CHRS: UTF-8 4
    First message on Fidonet, trying to figure out how this works compared
    to

    Looks OK, the special UTF-8 characters in your name included.

    @PATH: 103/705 280/464 5555

    Cheers, Michiel


    --- GoldED+/W32-MSVC 1.1.5-b20170303
    * Origin: ZC1 certified techno-dick (2:280/5555)
  • From Michiel van der Vlist@2:280/5555 to Bj"rn Wiberg on Wed Jan 12 11:46:55 2022
    Hello Bj"rn,

    On Wednesday January 12 2022 10:32, you wrote to Berki Yenigüun:

    @MSGID: 2:201/137 0a8329f9
    @REPLY: 11440.fidotest@1:103/705 26433f6c
    @TID: Mystic BBS 1.12 A47
    @TZUTC: 0100

    [..]

    Works fine (although some character in your last name got mangled here
    -- perhaps due to my tosser/BBS software not handling special
    characters correctly).

    Your software does not even handle the non ASCII characters in your own name correctly...


    Cheers, Michiel

    --- GoldED+/W32-MSVC 1.1.5-b20170303
    * Origin: ZC1 certified techno-dick (2:280/5555)
  • From Björn Wiberg@2:201/137 to Michiel van der Vlist on Wed Jan 12 18:00:12 2022
    Hello Michiel!

    Thank you for your reply!

    On 12 Jan 2022, Michiel van der Vlist said the following...
    Your software does not even handle the non ASCII characters in your own name correctly...

    Yes, unfortunately that's an issue with Mystic at present...
    I have notified James about it, though.

    Best regards
    Bjrn

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A47 2021/12/24 (Linux/64)
    * Origin: Star Collision BBS, Uppsala, Sweden (2:201/137)
  • From James Coyle@1:129/215 to Björn Wiberg on Wed Jan 12 12:30:57 2022
    Your software does not even handle the non ASCII characters in your o name correctly...

    Yes, unfortunately that's an issue with Mystic at present...
    I have notified James about it, though.

    How is it not handling it? Mystic's tosser does not change any data when it moves from JAM outbound or when importing.

    ... Kilometers are shorter than miles. Save gas, take your trip in kilometers

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A48 2022/01/12 (Windows/64)
    * Origin: Sector 7 * Mystic WHQ (1:129/215)
  • From Björn Wiberg@2:201/137 to James Coyle on Wed Jan 12 19:02:47 2022
    Hello James!

    Thank you for your reply!

    On 12 Jan 2022, James Coyle said the following...
    How is it not handling it? Mystic's tosser does not change any data
    when it moves from JAM outbound or when importing.

    I think the problem is that the messages do not contain a CHRS kludge, so that a message reader might assume ASCII (as per FSC-0054.004?) instead of CP437, which could cause special characters (such as umlaut characters) to be mangled on viewing.

    Best regards
    Bjrn

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A48 2022/01/11 (Linux/64)
    * Origin: Star Collision BBS, Uppsala, Sweden (2:201/137)
  • From Michiel van der Vlist@2:280/5555 to Bj"rn Wiberg on Wed Jan 12 19:32:37 2022
    Hello Bj"rn,

    On Wednesday January 12 2022 19:02, you wrote to James Coyle:

    I think the problem is that the messages do not contain a CHRS kludge,
    so that a message reader might assume ASCII (as per FSC-0054.004?)
    instead of CP437, which could cause special characters (such as umlaut characters) to be mangled on viewing.

    The missing CHRS kludge is indeed the problem.

    See FTS-5003.


    Cheers, Michiel

    --- GoldED+/W32-MSVC 1.1.5-b20170303
    * Origin: ZC1 certified techno-dick (2:280/5555)
  • From James Coyle@1:129/215 to Björn Wiberg on Wed Jan 12 14:58:12 2022
    I think the problem is that the messages do not contain a CHRS kludge,

    Okay gotcha, yeah I was wondering you just meant the CHRS kludge.

    ... A PC a day keeps the Apple away!

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A48 2022/01/12 (Windows/64)
    * Origin: Sector 7 * Mystic WHQ (1:129/215)
  • From Strahinja Bojovic@2:382/147 to Berki Yenig├╝un on Wed Jan 12 21:15:28 2022
    First message on Fidonet, trying to figure out how this works compared to

    Usenet. Hello all by the way, and happy new year.

    Tnx, happy new year!
    --- WILDMAIL!/WC v4.12
    * Origin: * VORTEX BBS * Serbia * vortex.redirectme.net:3777 (2:382/147.0)
  • From Berki Yenigüun@1:103/705 to Shaun Buzza on Thu Jan 13 12:49:00 2022
    Shaun Buzza wrote to Berki Yenig}'un <=-

    @MSGID: <61DDF9D6.11444.fidotest@vert.synchro.net>
    @REPLY: <61DDDCBC.11440.fidotest@vert.synchro.net>
    @TZ: fed4
    On 11 Jan 2022, Berki Yenig}'un said the following...

    Welcome!

    Thank you, and thanks to all who replied. Still trying to get the hang of it. Next, I'll have to figure out where to post to get help regarding my problems to connect to any BBS with two different modems and two different phone lines (one POTS, the other VOIP). The remote hosts always close the connection
    right at the login screen.

    McDoob
    SysOp, PiBBS
    pibbs.sytes.net

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A46 2020/08/26 (Raspberry Pi/32)
    * Origin: PiBBS (1:229/110)

    ... MultiMail, the new multi-platform, multi-format offline reader!
    --- MultiMail/Linux v0.52
    * Origin: Vertrauen - [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.net (1:103/705)
  • From Björn Wiberg@2:201/137 to James Coyle on Thu Jan 13 15:16:16 2022
    Hello James!

    Thank you for your reply!

    On 12 Jan 2022, James Coyle said the following...
    I think the problem is that the messages do not contain a CHRS kludge
    Okay gotcha, yeah I was wondering you just meant the CHRS kludge.

    Yep! =)

    Best regards
    Bjrn

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A48 2022/01/11 (Linux/64)
    * Origin: Star Collision BBS, Uppsala, Sweden (2:201/137)
  • From Daniel Path@2:371/52 to Berki Yenig├╝un on Thu Jan 13 21:41:00 2022
    Hello Berki.

    11 Jan 22 19:29, you wrote to All:

    @TZUTC: -0800
    @MSGID: 11440.fidotest@1:103/705 26433f6c
    @PID: Synchronet 3.19c-Win32 master/1d88d8092 Jan 10 2022 MSC 1928
    @TID: SBBSecho 3.14-Linux master/eb2f9e984 Jan 2 2022 GCC 8.3.0
    @BBSID: VERT
    @CHRS: UTF-8 4
    First message on Fidonet, trying to figure out how this works compared
    to

    Usenet. Hello all by the way, and happy new year.




    ... MultiMail, the new multi-platform, multi-format offline reader!
    --- MultiMail/Linux v0.52
    * Origin: Vertrauen - [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.net (1:103/705)
    SEEN-BY: 103/705 124/5016 153/757 154/10 203/0 218/700 221/0 1 6 360 240/1120
    SEEN-BY: 240/1634 1895 5832 8002 8005 280/464 5003 5555 291/100
    292/854 8125
    SEEN-BY: 301/1 310/31 313/41 335/364 341/66 234 371/0 52 380/5 382/147 396/45
    SEEN-BY: 423/81 120 460/58 256 1124 5858 712/848 770/1 2452/250
    3634/12
    SEEN-BY: 4500/1 4600/140 5020/1042 5054/30
    @PATH: 103/705 280/464 460/58 221/6 1 240/1120 371/0

    welcome to fidonet! :)

    Daniel

    ... 10:42pm up 0 days, 9:40:56, load: 74 processes, 285 threads.
    --- GoldED+/EMX 1.1.4.7
    * Origin: Roon's BBS - Budapest, HUNGARY (2:371/52)