Hello Fermin;

Fermin Sanchez wrote to Brian Rogers <=-

Times have definitely changed - in the good old times, for this message
to make it all the way over the pond would have taken a couple of
minutes longer ;-)

When residential internet initially became popular, I thought that would do some real damage to the content in echomail. It appears fido was intelligent and embraced the transport of the ip protocol stack instead... very smart!


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Hello Brian!

15 May 21 13:57, you wrote to me:

Times have definitely changed - in the good old times, for this
message to make it all the way over the pond would have taken a
couple of minutes longer ;-)

When residential internet initially became popular, I thought that
would do some real damage to the content in echomail. It appears fido
was intelligent and embraced the transport of the ip protocol stack instead... very smart!

For me it has been around 20 years a couple of months of absence in Fido. When I left, I still used dialup (ISDN, but still...) to connect.

Regards
Fermin


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Hello Fermin;

Fermin Sanchez wrote to Brian Rogers <=-

For me it has been around 20 years a couple of months of absence in
Fido. When I left, I still used dialup (ISDN, but still...) to connect.

At least we're all coming back!

ISDN - It Still Does Nothing? :)

-Brian

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Hello Brian!

ISDN - It Still Does Nothing? :)

I had one of the first installations here in switzerland, the telecom guys even came to see my fidonet installation running over ISDN back then.

ISDN was turned off in switzerland 2-3 years ago.

Matthias
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Hello Matthias;

Matthias Hertzog wrote to Brian Rogers <=-

I had one of the first installations here in switzerland, the telecom
guys even came to see my fidonet installation running over ISDN back
then.

Nice!

ISDN was turned off in switzerland 2-3 years ago.

We turned off ISDN at the turn of the century here. In fact, when I was
Head of M.I.S. at a large paper factory our ISP gave me a better offer than
I had at the shop to join their team so I jumped ship. They had a 2 part project cooking:

1 - migrate ALL ISDN folks to IDSL
2 - configure SDSL/VDSL for new customers.

Phase 1 was so easy we aced it in half the projected amount of time we were given. Phase 2 was trickier. Slower speed SDSL worked fine but anything over 512K speed failed. Their engineers screwed up big! After I was given the chance to review their configuration in depth I determined that they were trying to let these little bridge/modem devices handle the rate-shaping of the customer's speed... not so! They had us configuring circuits so that we were trying to push 100 liters (for non-US folk) of water/min through a hose that could only handle 10 liters of water/min. Needless to say these little bridge/modem devices were nicely in their electronic finger gestures telling us our enginnering brainpower was #1 <G>. I told them we needed to rate-shape
these higher speed circuits at our edge and feed them only what they needed!
I ran a couple tests with employee circuits and then had a customer who was down allow me to test my theory with their circuit. Worked PERFECTLY!
What engineers were doing were shoving a 100Mbs data stream into a device
that could only handle 1.5Mbs. Modems don't like that. Long term I saved
the company millions of dollars in commercial business that they could have
and were about to lose. My reward? Termination for speaking up against a
gay supervisor who was a bit too flirty for my liking and I don't play ball
on his team.

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ISDN - It Still Does Nothing? :)

I had one of the first installations here in switzerland, the telecom guys even came to see my
fidonet installation running over ISDN back then.

Nice!

I was the second ISDN subscriber here in our village. The first one was the Research Center of Finnish Army. It was year 1996. :)

ISDN was turned off in switzerland 2-3 years ago.

I let ISDN go about 15 years ago. It was in operation in parallel with ADSL for some years, but there was no point paying it for nothing. No more modem callers, and voice calls went to GSM.

And just few weeks ago the local telephone company dismantled the phone wires here.

'Tommi

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Hello Tommi Koivula!

** On Monday 17.05.21 - 20:21, Tommi Koivula wrote to Matthias Hertzog:

I let ISDN go about 15 years ago. It was in operation in
parallel with ADSL for some years, but there was no point
paying it for nothing. No more modem callers, and voice
calls went to GSM.

The dollar is the bottom line, both for distribution as well as
for the end-user. If those wires are constantly in need of
reapir, then any opportunity to do away with them sounds
practical.

And just few weeks ago the local telephone company
dismantled the phone wires here.

I would assume that there is still plenty of above-ground poles
to distribute electricity?

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