Hello, FidoNews!

Monday September 29 2025, FidoNews Robot wrote to All:

| On the web: |
| http://eljaco.se/FILES/fnews/ |

This site does not work!

Sincerely yours, Vladimir Fyodorov, esquire.
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Vladimir Fyodorov -> FidoNews Robot skrev 2025-09-29 07:57:

| http://eljaco.se/FILES/fnews/ |

This site does not work!

Theoretically, it should.

What error message do you get? I know that some browsers nowadays totally block all HTTP sites without any override possibility. Can this be it? If so, a "Not secure" indicator should be seen to the left of the URL.


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Bj�rn Felten wrote to Vladimir Fyodorov <=-

Vladimir Fyodorov -> FidoNews Robot skrev 2025-09-29 07:57:

| http://eljaco.se/FILES/fnews/ |

This site does not work!

Theoretically, it should.

Realistically, it doesn't.

What error message do you get?

None. Just an endless spinning thingy as nothing loads.

I know that some browsers nowadays totally block all HTTP sites without any override possibility. Can this be it?

No. I am able to connect to many other HTTP-only sites. This is with
either Firefox, Chromium, or Brave browsers.

If so, a "Not secure" indicator should be seen to the left of the URL.

That indicator is there, but does not stop connections.

The problem is that your "site" is broken somewhere, on your end.



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Hello, Bj�rn!

Tuesday September 30 2025, Bj�rn Felten wrote to Vladimir Fyodorov:

| http://eljaco.se/FILES/fnews/ |

This site does not work!

What error message do you get?

More often (110) Connection timed out

I know that some browsers nowadays
totally block all HTTP sites without any override possibility. Can
this be it? If so, a "Not secure" indicator should be seen to the left
of the URL.

I tried a few browsers:

Firefox 115.28.0esr (mac)
Firefox 143.0.2 (Android)
Firefox 110.0 (Windows 7)
Pale Moon 29.1.0 (Windows 7)
Google Chrome 116.0.5845.187 (mac)
Yandex Browser 23.7.0.2592 (mac)
Safari 14.1.2 (mac)
Tor Browser 13.5.4 (mac) - (HTTP Error 404. The requested resource is not found)

Sincerely yours, Vladimir Fyodorov, esquire.
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Hello, Bj�rn!

30.09.2025 1:59, Bj�rn Felten ����:

BF> What error message do you get? I know that some browsers
BF> nowadays totally block all HTTP sites without any override
BF> possibility. Can this be it? If so, a "Not secure" indicator
BF> should be seen to the left of the URL.

Tried telnet eljaco.se 80 and it didn't connect - the port doesn't respond, probably the web server is not running.

With best regards, Andrei Ivanov
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On 30/09/2025 13:52, Andrei Ivanov wrote:

Tried telnet eljaco.se 80 and it didn't connect - the port doesn't
respond, probably the web server is not running.

The IPv4 of that system has been broken for a very long time.

And if you try IPv6:

wget -6 http://eljaco.se
--2025-09-30 11:30:09-- http://eljaco.se/
Resolving eljaco.se (eljaco.se)... 2001:9b1:10d:77::52b
Connecting to eljaco.se (eljaco.se)|2001:9b1:10d:77::52b|:80... connected.
HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 404 Not Found
2025-09-30 11:30:09 ERROR 404: Not Found.

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Tommi Koivula wrote to Andrei Ivanov <=-

On 30/09/2025 13:52, Andrei Ivanov wrote:

Tried telnet eljaco.se 80 and it didn't connect - the port doesn't
respond, probably the web server is not running.

The IPv4 of that system has been broken for a very long time.

And if you try IPv6:

wget -6 http://eljaco.se
--2025-09-30 11:30:09-- http://eljaco.se/
Resolving eljaco.se (eljaco.se)... 2001:9b1:10d:77::52b
Connecting to eljaco.se (eljaco.se)|2001:9b1:10d:77::52b|:80...
connected. HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 404 Not Found 2025-09-30 11:30:09 ERROR 404: Not Found.

So, to summarize:

Beeeeorn's system is a broke-dick piece of shit.

What a surprise!



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Hello, Dan Clough.
On 30/09/2025 16.22 you wrote:

Tommi Koivula wrote to Andrei Ivanov <=-

On 30/09/2025 13:52, Andrei Ivanov wrote:

Tried telnet eljaco.se 80 and it didn't connect - the port doesn't
respond, probably the web server is not running.

The IPv4 of that system has been broken for a very long time.
And if you try IPv6:
wget -6 http://eljaco.se
--2025-09-30 11:30:09-- http://eljaco.se/
Resolving eljaco.se (eljaco.se)... 2001:9b1:10d:77::52b
Connecting to eljaco.se (eljaco.se)|2001:9b1:10d:77::52b|:80...
connected. HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 404 Not Found
2025-09-30 11:30:09 ERROR 404: Not Found.

So, to summarize:
Beeeeorn's system is a broke-dick piece of shit.

Yes.

What a surprise!

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Hello Bj�rn!

30 Sep 25 01:59, you wrote to Vladimir Fyodorov:

Vladimir Fyodorov -> FidoNews Robot skrev 2025-09-29 07:57:

| http://eljaco.se/FILES/fnews/ |

This site does not work!

This is what I get in California:

http://eljaco.se/FILES/fnews/

Not Found
HTTP Error 404. The requested resource is not found.

Wikipedia:

"...to indicate that the browser was able to communicate with a given server, but the server could not find what was requested. The error may also be used when a server does not wish to disclose whether it has the requested information."


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Hi Bj�rn,

On 2025-09-30 01:59:46, you wrote to Vladimir Fyodorov:

| http://eljaco.se/FILES/fnews/ |

This site does not work!

Theoretically, it should.

What error message do you get? I know that some browsers nowadays totally
block all HTTP sites without any override possibility. Can this be it? If so,
a "Not secure" indicator should be seen to the left of the URL.

Here's some info:

# curl -v http://eljaco.se/
* Hostname was NOT found in DNS cache
* Trying 94.254.14.141...
* connect to 94.254.14.141 port 80 failed: Connection refused
* Trying 2001:9b1:10d:77::52b...
* Connected to eljaco.se (2001:9b1:10d:77::52b) port 80 (#0)

GET / HTTP/1.1
User-Agent: curl/7.37.0
Host: eljaco.se
Accept: */*

< HTTP/1.1 404 Not Found
< Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
* Server Microsoft-HTTPAPI/2.0 is not blacklisted
< Server: Microsoft-HTTPAPI/2.0
< Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2025 16:51:20 GMT
< Connection: close
< Content-Length: 315
<
<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01//EN""http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/strict.dtd">
<HTML><HEAD><TITLE>Not Found</TITLE>
<META HTTP-EQUIV="Content-Type" Content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"></HEAD> <BODY><h2>Not Found</h2>
<hr><p>HTTP Error 404. The requested resource is not found.</p>
</BODY></HTML>
* Closing connection 0

Your server is only responding on IPv6, and it doesn't seem to be configured at all...


Bye, Wilfred.

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Hello, Bj�rn!

Theoretically, it should.

Well, it doesn't.

What error message do you get? I know that some browsers nowadays totally block all HTTP sites without any override possibility. Can
this be it? If so, a "Not secure" indicator should be seen to the left
of the URL.

savant@DESKTOP-1MF1KSE:/mnt/c/Users/savant$ curl http://eljaco.se/FILES/fnews/ -v
* Host eljaco.se:80 was resolved.
* IPv6: 2001:9b1:10d:77::52b
* IPv4: 94.254.14.141
* Trying 94.254.14.141:80...
* connect to 94.254.14.141 port 80 from 172.26.137.117 port 56306 failed: Connection refused
* Trying [2001:9b1:10d:77::52b]:80...
* Immediate connect fail for 2001:9b1:10d:77::52b: Network is unreachable
* Failed to connect to eljaco.se port 80 after 113 ms: Couldn't connect to server
* Closing connection
curl: (7) Failed to connect to eljaco.se port 80 after 113 ms: Couldn't connect to server

Best regards, Nikita Nazarenko

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Tommi Koivula -> Andrei Ivanov skrev 2025-09-30 10:33:

The IPv4 of that system has been broken for a very long time.

So, who is this then, that has been empty polling my system on cron for many months now? Sure looks like IPv4 to me...?

- 01 Oct 00:20:06 [20368] incoming from 51.38.115.207 (52126)
+ 01 Oct 00:20:06 [5776] incoming session with 51.38.115.207
- 01 Oct 00:20:06 [5776] SYS RBB/360
- 01 Oct 00:20:06 [5776] ZYZ Tommi Koivula
- 01 Oct 00:20:06 [5776] LOC Lake Ylo City, Finland
- 01 Oct 00:20:06 [5776] NDL IBN:360,CM
- 01 Oct 00:20:06 [5776] TIME Wed, 1 Oct 2025 01:20:06 +0300
- 01 Oct 00:20:06 [5776] VER binkd/1.1a-115/Linux binkp/1.1
+ 01 Oct 00:20:06 [5776] addr: 2:221/360@fidonet
- 01 Oct 00:20:06 [5776] OPT NDA EXTCMD CRYPT GZ BZ2
+ 01 Oct 00:20:06 [5776] Remote supports asymmetric ND mode
+ 01 Oct 00:20:06 [5776] Remote supports EXTCMD mode
+ 01 Oct 00:20:06 [5776] Remote requests CRYPT mode
- 01 Oct 00:20:06 [5776] TRF 0 0
+ 01 Oct 00:20:06 [5776] Remote has 0b of mail and 0b of files for us
+ 01 Oct 00:20:06 [5776] done (from 2:221/360@fidonet, OK, S/R: 0/0 (0/0 bytes))
01 Oct 00:20:06 [5776] session closed, quitting...


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Hi Bj�rn.

01 Oct 25 00:33, you wrote to me:

Tommi Koivula -> Andrei Ivanov skrev 2025-09-30 10:33:

The IPv4 of that system has been broken for a very long time.

So, who is this then, that has been empty polling my system on cron
for many months now? Sure looks like IPv4 to me...?

Sometimes is works, yes. Most of the times it does not. Seems pretty broken to be a CM node..

'Tommi

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What error message do you get? I know that some browsers nowadays
totally block all HTTP sites without any override possibility. Can this
be it? If so, a "Not secure" indicator should be seen to the left of the URL.

Not Found
HTTP Error 404. The requested resource is not found.

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Ward Dossche -> Bj�rn Felten skrev 2025-10-01 15:56:

Not Found
HTTP Error 404. The requested resource is not found.

Thank you. Finally a consice comment.

Not exactly a priority of mine, just a free of charge service I provide, but I think I found the problem, care to make a new attempt?


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Hello, Bj�rn!

Thursday October 09 2025, Bj�rn Felten wrote to Ward Dossche:

Not Found
HTTP Error 404. The requested resource is not found.

Not exactly a priority of mine, just a free of charge service I provide, but I think I found the problem, care to make a new attempt?

Now it works. Thank you!

Sincerely yours, Vladimir Fyodorov, esquire.
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Now it works. Thank you!

Thank YOU for so quickly confirming that my struggle with effin Windows 10 was not a total waste of time. :)


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Not Found
HTTP Error 404. The requested resource is not found.

Thank you. Finally a consice comment.

Not exactly a priority of mine, just a free of charge service I
provide, but I think I found the problem, care to make a new attempt?

Works like a gem now.

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Hi Bj�rn,

On 2025-10-09 13:32:06, you wrote to Vladimir Fyodorov:

Now it works. Thank you!

Thank YOU for so quickly confirming that my struggle with effin Windows 10
was not a total waste of time. :)

Only IPv6 works. Connects on IPv4 still don't...


Bye, Wilfred.

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Wilfred van Velzen -> Bj�rn Felten skrev 2025-10-09 13:37:

Only IPv6 works. Connects on IPv4 still don't...

Wonderful news. It only worked with IPv4 with the old setup.

Can you use a traceroute to see where it stops with IPv4?


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Hi Bj�rn,

On 2025-10-09 19:49:51, you wrote to me:

Only IPv6 works. Connects on IPv4 still don't...

Wonderful news. It only worked with IPv4 with the old setup.

I don't think so...

Can you use a traceroute to see where it stops with IPv4?

# tcptraceroute eljaco.se
Selected device eth0, address 192.168.178.5, port 36709 for outgoing packets Tracing the path to eljaco.se (94.254.14.141) on TCP port 80 (http), 30 hops max
1 192.168.178.1 0.482 ms 0.312 ms 0.303 ms
2 * * *
3 * * *
4 * * *
5 84.241.243.33 36.300 ms 27.609 ms 33.346 ms
6 84.241.243.20 28.507 ms 29.757 ms 25.381 ms
7 214-86-143-37.ftth.glasoperator.nl (37.143.86.214) 30.394 ms 34.414 ms 38.462 ms
8 ams-ix.bahnhof.NET (80.249.208.99) 44.311 ms 36.373 ms 48.386 ms
9 gbg4-er1.gbg-cr3.as8473.net (46.59.112.114) 48.370 ms 48.397 ms 48.382 ms
10 a980-gw-c.bahnhof.net (46.59.118.210) 49.472 ms 49.400 ms 48.375 ms
11 g-br-c1-link.se.telia.net (78.74.2.36) 48.410 ms 49.375 ms 57.372 ms
12 gw54.A980.priv.bahnhof.se (85.24.226.1) 39.394 ms 50.338 ms 51.426 ms
13 h-94-254-14-141.A980.priv.bahnhof.se (94.254.14.141) [closed] 100.411 ms 45.410 ms 47.472 ms

Or this:

# telnet eljaco.se 80
Trying 94.254.14.141...
telnet: connect to address 94.254.14.141: Connection refused
Trying 2001:9b1:10d:77::52b...
Connected to eljaco.se.

So your firewall seems to actively refusing connections on IPv4 for port 80.


Bye, Wilfred.

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Wilfred van Velzen -> Bj�rn Felten skrev 2025-10-09 22:59:

So your firewall seems to actively refusing connections on IPv4 for port 80.

My firewall is open on port 80. DUH!

But I don't have a telnet server answering on port 80.

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Wilfred van Velzen -> Bj�rn Felten skrev 2025-10-09 22:59:

So your firewall seems to actively refusing connections on IPv4 for port 80.

As I said, my firewall has nothing to do with this. I have only three ports forwarded. One of them is HTTP (80 -> 80).

If Windows 10 with IIS somehow ignores IPv4 calls, all the better. A quick search in my log files actually seems to confirm that there are only IPv6 calls. Welcome to the 21st century.

It would have been worse if, after two decades with IPv6, my system still couldn't answer IPv6 calls to my website. :)



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Hi Bj�rn,

On 2025-10-10 10:32:51, you wrote to me:

So your firewall seems to actively refusing connections on IPv4 for
port 80.

My firewall is open on port 80. DUH!

Well something is blocking port 80 on IPv4 to your server. Maybe it's your provider? Or the server itself?

But I don't have a telnet server answering on port 80.

Telnet is just used to check if a tcp/ip connection on port 80 can be established...

Testing with curl gives the same result:

# curl -v eljaco.se
* Rebuilt URL to: eljaco.se/
* Hostname was NOT found in DNS cache
* Trying 94.254.14.141...
* connect to 94.254.14.141 port 80 failed: Connection refused
* Trying 2001:9b1:10d:77::52b...
* Connected to eljaco.se (2001:9b1:10d:77::52b) port 80 (#0)
...


Or wget:
# wget eljaco.se
--2025-10-10 12:48:39-- http://eljaco.se/
Resolving eljaco.se (eljaco.se)... 94.254.14.141, 2001:9b1:10d:77::52b Connecting to eljaco.se (eljaco.se)|94.254.14.141|:80... failed: Connection refused.
Connecting to eljaco.se (eljaco.se)|2001:9b1:10d:77::52b|:80... connected.
HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK
...


Bye, Wilfred.

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Bj�rn Felten wrote to Wilfred van Velzen <=-

Wilfred van Velzen -> Bj�rn Felten skrev 2025-10-09 22:59:

So your firewall seems to actively refusing connections on IPv4 for port 80.

My firewall is open on port 80. DUH!

But I don't have a telnet server answering on port 80.

Oh! The ignorance.




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