• Allowing articles written in Cyrillic?

    From Michiel van der Vlist@2:280/5555 to Björn Felten on Tue Apr 16 07:43:10 2024
    Hello Bj”rn,

    On Monday May 27 2019 13:26, you wrote to me:

    MvdV>> There is a large reservoir of potential contributors east of
    MvdV>> us. Who knows what will surface if you make it possible for
    MvdV>> them to write in their own native language, using their own
    MvdV>> native character set.

    Seriously? Can you see a number of Russian articles,

    You never know until you try.

    that only the Russians can read,

    Widen your horizon. You'd be surpised how many outside Russia can read Russian. And BTW, the use of Cyrillic is not limited to Russian. There are Cyrillic letters on the Euro bills. (FYI the Euro is the international currency used in most countries of the European Union.)

    in an international publication like the Fidonews? In any
    international echo for that matter?

    I wonder what your definition of "international" is. In my vocabulary it is something that crosses one or more borders. The high speed train from Amsterdam to Brussels is an international train. Crossing just one border makes it international.

    Another relevant notion is "global". Fidonet is a global network. It is not limited to some specific group of countries. Is Fidonews global? If it is English only, I'd say it is not global.

    AFAIK, they already have a Russian version -- just like e.g. Sweden
    had until our editor passed away.

    In the 90ties there was a Dutch version as well. "Nederlands Net Nieuws". It died when the number of readers and writers dropped below critical mass just before the turn of the century.

    AFAIK, there is a Z1 version too. "Fido Gazette" IIRC.

    Your point?

    Get real!

    I assure you I am a real human being. I am not a robot.

    No, dear readers, rest assured that as long as I am the editor, the Fidonews will remain English only. Using CP850.

    For decades you have been campaigning against the ASCII only rules in Fidonet. And rightly so. ASCII only was justified in the very early days when the hardware simply could not support more. But those days are long gone. There is no longer a technical reason for any ASCII only rule. So you can have your name spelled properly with an ” (o diaeresis) instead of just an o. Kudos fo you.

    But now you show your true colours. Now that you got /your/ name properly spelled, you stop. You want to replace the ASCII only rule by a CP850 only rule. There is no technical justification fo any CP850 ony rule.

    Shame on you!


    Cheers, Michiel

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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to Björn Felten on Tue Apr 16 07:43:10 2024
    Hello Bj”rn,

    MvdV>> There is a large reservoir of potential contributors east of us. Who
    MvdV>> knows what will surface if you make it possible for them to write in
    MvdV>> their own native language, using their own native character set.

    Seriously? Can you see a number of Russian articles, that only the Russians
    can read, in an international publication like the Fidonews? In any international echo for that matter?

    Why would that be a problem?

    AFAIK, they already have a Russian version -- just like e.g. Sweden had until our editor passed away.

    Limiting FidoNet to English only is a problem that needs
    correcting. Same as limiting FidoNet to Swedish only would be.
    Or any other language. So why keep doing the same stupid thing?

    Get real!

    The US has no official language. In Louisiana, I can insist on
    using French as my native tongue in court of law, including to sign
    legal documents. Why would an editor of the FidoNews want to limit
    articles to be written in English? Or for contributors in this
    echo to limit their rantings in English? Certainly that makes no
    sense. No sense at all.

    No, dear readers, rest assured that as long as I am the editor, the Fidonews
    will remain English only. Using CP850.

    The editor of the FidoNews has gone MAGA ...

    --Lee

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  • From David Drummond@3:640/305 to Lee Lofaso on Tue Apr 16 07:43:10 2024
    On 29/05/2019 22:11, 2:203/2 wrote:

    AFAIK, they already have a Russian version -- just like e.g. Sweden had
    until our editor passed away.

    Limiting FidoNet to English only is a problem that needs
    correcting. Same as limiting FidoNet to Swedish only would be.
    Or any other language. So why keep doing the same stupid thing?

    If you were the editor of the Snooze, how would you edit an article I submitted written in Maori (supposing that I could include all of the character accents)? Are you fluent enough in that written language to edit it?

    Would you do any better if it was written in Ukrainian?

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    Gang warily
    David

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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to David Drummond on Tue Apr 16 07:43:10 2024
    Hello David,

    AFAIK, they already have a Russian version -- just like e.g. BF>Sweden
    had until our editor passed away.

    Limiting FidoNet to English only is a problem that needs
    correcting. Same as limiting FidoNet to Swedish only would be.
    Or any other language. So why keep doing the same stupid thing?

    If you were the editor of the Snooze, how would you edit an article I submitted written in Maori (supposing that I could include all of the character accents)?

    Very carefully.

    Are you fluent enough in that written language to edit it?

    That's what associate editors are for.

    Would you do any better if it was written in Ukrainian?

    Never underestimate the competence of associate editors ...

    --Lee

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  • From Björn Felten@2:203/2 to Michiel van der Vlist on Tue Apr 16 07:43:10 2024
    MvdV> There is a large reservoir of potential contributors east of us. Who
    MvdV> knows what will surface if you make it possible for them to write in
    MvdV> their own native language, using their own native character set.

    Seriously? Can you see a number of Russian articles, that only the Russians can read, in an international publication like the Fidonews? In any international echo for that matter?

    AFAIK, they already have a Russian version -- just like e.g. Sweden had until our editor passed away.

    Get real!

    No, dear readers, rest assured that as long as I am the editor, the Fidonews will remain English only. Using CP850.



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