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    From David Drummond@3:640/305 to Björn Felten on Tue Apr 16 07:43:10 2024
    On 26/06/2019 10:38, 2:203/2 wrote:
    his system? can we all start telling you how to run your system??

    No need to. Since we are gradually discarding parts of P4 we might
    as well discard of the entire 2.1.9 of P4 in one big swipe.

    "Private listings impact each member of FidoNet, since they take up space in everyone's nodelist. Private listings which are for the convenience of one sysop (at the expense of every other sysop in
    FidoNet) are a luxury which is no longer possible."

    When that was written we had to "trim" the nodelist to "less than 1000 entries" and pay to move the nodelist.

    Today the size is not an issue, most of us are not paying anything to move it.

    Nowadays it seems to be, and has been, quite possible in certain
    parts of Fidonet for a long time...

    Since "ION" became popular...

    --

    Gang warily
    David

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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to Björn Felten on Tue Apr 16 07:43:10 2024
    Hello Bj”rn,

    you never heard of a private BBS? are you trying to tell dale how to
    run
    his system? can we all start telling you how to run your system??

    No need to. Since we are gradually discarding parts of P4 we might as well discard of the entire 2.1.9 of P4 in one big swipe.

    "Private listings impact each member of FidoNet, since they take up space in everyone's nodelist. Private listings which are for the convenience of one sysop (at the expense of every other sysop in FidoNet) are a luxury which is no longer possible."

    Nowadays it seems to be, and has been, quite possible in certain parts of Fidonet for a long time...

    Excellent observation(s). But there is more to it than that ...

    --Lee

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    Our Nuts, Your Mouth

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  • From David Drummond@3:640/305 to mark lewis on Tue Apr 16 07:43:10 2024
    On 26/06/2019 18:39, mark lewis -> David Drummond wrote:

    Today the size is not an issue, most of us are not paying anything to
    move it.

    at least not outside the existing cost of maintaining an internet connection...

    Do you pay volume related charges for your Internet connection, as in the more you move the more you pay?

    --

    Gang warily
    David

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  • From mark lewis@1:3634/12.73 to David Drummond on Tue Apr 16 07:43:10 2024
    On 2019 Jun 27 09:14:18, you wrote to me:

    Today the size is not an issue, most of us are not paying anything
    to move it.

    at least not outside the existing cost of maintaining an internet
    connection...

    Do you pay volume related charges for your Internet connection, as in
    the more you move the more you pay?

    nope... not at all... never have and never will... in fact, i'm paying the same cost now for 50M/5M as i did for 3M/768k... dialup was a bit lower but the additional cost to go faster via DSL was less than $10US so we stepped up...

    )\/(ark

    Always Mount a Scratch Monkey
    Do you manage your own servers? If you are not running an IDS/IPS yer doin' it wrong...
    ... He's dead, Jim. I have his tricorder, you get his wallet.
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  • From Björn Felten@2:203/2 to mark lewis on Tue Apr 16 07:43:10 2024
    you never heard of a private BBS? are you trying to tell dale how to run his system? can we all start telling you how to run your system??

    No need to. Since we are gradually discarding parts of P4 we might as well discard of the entire 2.1.9 of P4 in one big swipe.

    "Private listings impact each member of FidoNet, since they take up space in everyone's nodelist. Private listings which are for the convenience of one sysop (at the expense of every other sysop in FidoNet) are a luxury which is no longer possible."

    Nowadays it seems to be, and has been, quite possible in certain parts of Fidonet for a long time...



    ..

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  • From mark lewis@1:3634/12.73 to Björn Felten on Tue Apr 16 07:43:10 2024
    On 2019 Jun 26 02:38:22, you wrote to me:

    you never heard of a private BBS? are you trying to tell dale how to
    run his system? can we all start telling you how to run your system??

    No need to. Since we are gradually discarding parts of P4 we might as
    well discard of the entire 2.1.9 of P4 in one big swipe.

    kinda, yeah...

    "Private listings impact each member of FidoNet, since they take up
    space in everyone's nodelist. Private listings which are for the convenience of one sysop (at the expense of every other sysop in
    FidoNet) are a luxury which is no longer possible."

    yeah, that part is definitely not applicable these days... especially since 1TB drives are damned near cheaper than pizza dinner...

    Nowadays it seems to be, and has been, quite possible in certain parts
    of Fidonet for a long time...

    i dunno... i do know that dale's system has been listed in the same way since it was first added to the nodelist 21+ years ago...

    )\/(ark

    Always Mount a Scratch Monkey
    Do you manage your own servers? If you are not running an IDS/IPS yer doin' it wrong...
    ... Life is one weird tub of guacamole and I am all out of chips.
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