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    From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to David Drummond on Tue Apr 16 07:31:14 2024
    Hello David,

    Is he saying that unless you're a *C,
    you're not a real BBS?

    I guess you do not know how to run a BBS then?

    Fidonet is, and has always been a BBS network. No matter how hard
    some people try to deny it. It's written crystal clear in our policy.

    A document that most of us had no say in the composition there-of.

    How many of us have actually entered into any contract regarding this Policy?

    None. Not a single sysop. In any zone.

    It is not valid or enforceable. So what's the point?

    In order to be valid, a contract must be signed by both parties.
    Those who wrote P4 never signed it.
    Nobody from any zone signed it, as no vote was taken.
    Therefore, P4 is not a valid or enforceable contract.

    Those who wrote the Declaration of Independence signed their names.
    No vote was taken, as none was necessary. A copy was then sent to
    the King of England, who then gave an edict to chop off their heads.

    Those who wrote the US Constitution signed their names. A vote
    was then taken by each individual state, one at a time. All 13
    states independently voted "yes" - making the US Constitution a
    valid and enforceable contract.

    Of course, the Zone 1 powers-that-be would have you believe
    that the mighty P4 rules us all ...

    --Lee

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  • From Dan Clough@1:123/115 to mark lewis on Tue Apr 16 07:31:14 2024
    mark lewis wrote to Bj”rn Felten <=-

    With only all the working BBSs nodelisted, and all the other,
    glorified point systems connected to those few (50 or so?), it would
    be a piece of cake to create a true, complete mesh of fidonet nodes.

    really??? you take this as an opportunity to wave the fidoweb
    dick in folks' faces again??? deity, you take the cake!

    He really is a piece of work, eh?

    I don't even know what to make of his claim of there being only 50
    working BBS's in the nodelist. Is he saying that unless you're a *C,
    you're not a real BBS?


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  • From Björn Felten@2:203/2 to Dan Clough on Tue Apr 16 07:31:14 2024
    Is he saying that unless you're a *C,
    you're not a real BBS?

    I guess you do not know how to run a BBS then?

    Fidonet is, and has always been a BBS network. No matter how hard some people try to deny it. It's written crystal clear in our policy.




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  • From Dan Clough@1:123/115 to Björn Felten on Tue Apr 16 07:31:14 2024
    Bj”rn Felten wrote to Dan Clough <=-

    Is he saying that unless you're a *C,
    you're not a real BBS?

    I guess you do not know how to run a BBS then?

    Well, I believe I do. I'm the sysop of the system that this post
    is originating from, anyway.

    Fidonet is, and has always been a BBS network. No matter how
    hard some people try to deny it. It's written crystal clear in
    our policy.

    Sometimes you don't even make sense... I know that (above). Not
    sure why you say that, and from what context there was in this
    thread (that you snipped), *YOU* are the one denying that it's a
    BBS network, and implying that *C's are the only real BBSes.

    You really do have a bad habit of snipping out too much of what
    you reply to. I'm guessing that's another of your little ways of
    making things as clear as mud. Making it appear that you said
    something other than what you did. Please stop playing the silly
    little games, and try to have an adult conversation. Thanks.



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  • From David Drummond@3:640/305 to Dan Clough on Tue Apr 16 07:31:14 2024
    On 11/03/2019 14:14, Dan Clough -> mark lewis wrote:

    With only all the working BBSs nodelisted, and all the other,
    glorified point systems connected to those few (50 or so?), it would
    be a piece of cake to create a true, complete mesh of fidonet nodes.

    really??? you take this as an opportunity to wave the fidoweb
    dick in folks' faces again??? deity, you take the cake!

    He really is a piece of work, eh?

    As are we all.

    I don't even know what to make of his claim of there being only 50
    working BBS's in the nodelist. Is he saying that unless you're a *C, you're not a real BBS?

    I think he is suggesting that unless a "system" has users other than the "sysop" then it shouldn't be nodelisted.

    Having a *C badge is not required.

    There are no other users availing themselves of my "system" - although I do have a *C badge. Should my system only be a point and not a "full nodelisted" node?

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    Regards
    David

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  • From David Drummond@3:640/305 to Björn Felten on Tue Apr 16 07:31:14 2024
    On 11/03/2019 14:56, 2:203/2 wrote:
    Is he saying that unless you're a *C,
    you're not a real BBS?

    I guess you do not know how to run a BBS then?

    Fidonet is, and has always been a BBS network. No matter how hard
    some people try to deny it. It's written crystal clear in our policy.

    A document that most of us had no say in the composition there-of.

    How many of us have actually entered into any contract regarding this Policy?

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    Regards
    David

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  • From Dan Clough@1:123/115 to David Drummond on Tue Apr 16 07:31:14 2024
    David Drummond wrote to Dan Clough <=-

    With only all the working BBSs nodelisted, and all the other,
    glorified point systems connected to those few (50 or so?), it would
    be a piece of cake to create a true, complete mesh of fidonet nodes.

    I don't even know what to make of his claim of there being only 50
    working BBS's in the nodelist. Is he saying that unless you're a *C, you're not a real BBS?

    I think he is suggesting that unless a "system" has users other
    than the "sysop" then it shouldn't be nodelisted.

    Ahhh, that could be it. Pretty hard to put into practice though,
    and the number of users is a moving target.

    Having a *C badge is not required.

    There are no other users availing themselves of my "system" -
    although I do have a *C badge. Should my system only be a point
    and not a "full nodelisted" node?

    Of course not. I don't have many users either, but that's the way
    of the world nowadays.



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