Well if we could go to the moon, so why not? 8-)

Neil Armstrong (allegedly the first man on the Moon) is
rumored to have disclosed his account of what he and "Buzz"
Aldrin saw to an unnamed college professor during a NASA
symposium.

When I say "we" I choose to regard the NASA accomplishment to be a universal one, even though a lot of international scientists (including some nazi escapees) were involved.

But don't you ever forget that the entire planet took pride in what the US tax payers footed the bill for.

Without that huge bill, we would probably still barely be having pocket calculators and still be having rotary dial phones over copper wires.

All of the recent NASA adventures are still totally awesome. You should be proud of what your country has achieved rather than denying it!

http://tinyurl.com/ycj7we94


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Hi, Björn Felten!
I read your message from 11.04.2019 22:16

BF> Without that huge bill, we would probably still barely be
BF> having pocket calculators and still be having rotary dial
BF> phones over copper wires. All of the recent NASA
BF> adventures are still totally awesome. You should be proud of
BF> what your country has achieved rather than denying it!

IMHO is more correct to say - without an arm race "we would probably
still barely... etc" ;-) If a new technic was made then - it was the
rocket Saturn V and new materials to build it. Electronics had been
developed without great connection with space flights. B-52 made for electronics more than Appolo 11. ;)

Bye, Björn!
Alexander Koryagin
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Hello Bj�rn,

Well if we could go to the moon, so why not? 8-)

Neil Armstrong (allegedly the first man on the Moon) is
rumored to have disclosed his account of what he and "Buzz"
Aldrin saw to an unnamed college professor during a NASA
symposium.

When I say "we" I choose to regard the NASA accomplishment to be a universal
one, even though a lot of international scientists (including some nazi escapees) were involved.

Certainly, landing a man on the Moon and returning him safely
back to Earth would be a real accomplishment that all peoples
around the world should love and celebrate. But did it really
happen? Just because people want to believe Santa Claus is
real doesn't mean he really is.

When JFK made his famous speech at Rice University (open air
during a hot muggy day in the football stadium) in Houston,
Texas not many people in the stands were paying attention. Until
he asked the crowd "Why does Rice play Texas?" That woke them
up, and everybody cheered. Then he went on to talk about his
program to land a man on the Moon and return him safely back
to Earth before the end of the decade. This is what was known
as Project Camelot. However, it has since been revealed that
Project Camelot had a much different goal -

http://projectcamelot.org/jake_simpson.html

But don't you ever forget that the entire planet took pride in what the US tax payers footed the bill for.

People took pride in a fairy tale they had been led to believe
had come true. That it really happened. Today, not so many
people believe. In fact, a majority of people in the UK believe
it was all fake. If another poll is taken in the US, the same
here would be found that most folks today believe it was all
faked (the last poll taken in the US on the subject was decades
ago).

The majority of people on this planet were not even born when
astronauts alledgedly landed on the Moon. So who can blame them
for not believing? A claim with nothing to back it up is an
empty claim. Unless it is told by Donald Trump, who does not
believe in climate change, or that Barack Obama was born in
the USA.

Why did NASA claim to have landed a man on the Moon and to
have brought him safely back to Earth? The real reason was not
so people around the world would feel great pride that man had
landed on the Moon, but rather so that the US could show the
USSR it had nuclear missiles that were so accurate they could
hit a target a quarter million miles away on the Moon.

Without that huge bill, we would probably still barely be having pocket calculators and still be having rotary dial phones over copper wires.

How much does it cost to send a missile to the Moon, versus
the cost of sending astronauts to the Moon and return them
safely back to Earth? Stanley Kubrick had us all believe we
could fly to Jupiter. Along with building a giant space
station in orbit around the Earth. Perhaps that is why NASA
hired him to produce a series of short mini-movies. To have
folks believe it had sent astronauts to the Moon. Not that
any of them really got there.

What better place to film those movies than just outside
of Las Vegas? The astronauts could play the slots during
the day, and also have lots of other entertainment on the
side. Then at night they could play their parts as actors
directed by the great Stanley Kubrick.

NASA is quasi-military. The astronauts who supposedly went to
the Moon were test pilots, having served in the military. Why
put their own lives on the line when they didn't have to? All
the POTUS wanted to do was show the Soviets the US had nuclear
weapons that were super-accurate, and had a range that was truly
out of this world.

The funds saved by faking the Moon landings were used for other
things. Such as protecting the POTUS from Watergate ...

All of the recent NASA adventures are still totally awesome.

Astronauts, cosmonauts, taikonauts, all their adventures
are awesome. But none has ever walked on the surface of the
Moon. NASA has made a few claims, but none of those claims
have been independently verified.

One of the greatest accomplishments of NASA is the International
Space Station. It is actually an international endeavor, not just
something that has been funded and run by the USA. However, it
should be noted that China was not invited.

What will China do when it becomes the first nation on Earth
to successfully land a taikonaut on the Moon? And a lunar base
on the Moon? Do you think China will let the US or Russia share
in any of its glory?

Perpaps Sweden should have its own space program. That way,
it can be sure to get wherever it wants to go. And never be
denied the right to own even a small piece of the Moon.

Journalists and reporters should be allowed to join the next
crew of astronauts/cosmonauts/taikonauts who attempt such a
mad adventure. If they succeed, the entire world will know,
including those who still think climate change is a hoax and
Barack Obama was born in Kenya.

You should be proud of what your country has achieved rather than denying it!

Where is independent verification that man has ever set foot
on the Moon? Lack of proof is not denial. If I claim to be
Superman, would you believe me just because I say so? Or
if somebody else says so? Certainly you must be smarter than
that ...

http://tinyurl.com/ycj7we94

Awesome! Now please explain why Pluto is no longer considered
being a planet, while still having two moons ...

The USSR accomplished the same thing as NASA within a month.
Landed on the Moon. With all its cosmonauts remaining on Earth.
What this shows is that scientists and engineers around the
world are capable of doing many things. Not just those in the
US.

--Lee

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Lee Lofaso -> Bj�rn Felten skrev 2019-04-14 14:22:

But did it really happen?

Of course it did.

I'm surprised that an intelligent person like you choose to join a hoax society like that when there's so many real hoaxes to focus on.

1. The Dag Hammarskj�ld assassination. Follow the money -- mining companies in Congo did exceptionally well after his death.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dag_Hammarskj%C3%B6ld

2. The JFK assassination. Follow the money -- the military industrial complex. Hint: Vietnam.

3. The Olof Palme assassination -- the South African Secret Service. Hint: Sweden funded more than 50% of the ANC and was the only country that supported them.

4. The World Trade Centre controlled demolition in 2001 -- once again the MIC plus of course the insurance money.

5. Climate change. As usual, follow the money -- the big oil companies. Just like the tobacco companies in the 1950s.



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Hello Björn,

What will we find, if anything, if we ever do manage
to actually get there? Seems to be a big "if", given
Neil Armstrong's account as to what he had seen.

Well if we could go to the moon, so why not? 8-)

Neil Armstrong (allegedly the first man on the Moon) is
rumored to have disclosed his account of what he and "Buzz"
Aldrin saw to an unnamed college professor during a NASA
symposium.

Professor: What really happened out there with Apollo 11?

Armstrong: It was incredible … of course, we had always known there
was a possibility … the fact is, we were warned off. There was never
any questions then of a space station or a moon city.

Professor: How do you mean “warned off”?

Armstrong: I can’t go into details, except to say that their
ships were far superior to ours both in size and technology –
boy, where they big! … and menacing …. No, there is no question
of a space station.

Professor: But NASA had other missions after Apollo 11?

Armstrong: Naturally – NASA was committed at that time, and
couldn’t risk a panic on earth…. But it really was a quick scoop
and back again.

[multiple sources around the internet]

--Lee

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Hi! Lee,

On 06 Apr 19 02:30, you wrote to Bj�rn Felten:

[multiple sources around the internet]

Nigerian scammers' source(s), with the same 92% spelling & grammatical error rate.

Cheers,
Paul.

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Neil Armstrong (allegedly the first man on the Moon) is
rumored to have disclosed his account of what he and "Buzz"
Aldrin saw to an unnamed college professor during a NASA
symposium.

Just to remind everybody what verified scientific proof Lee has.

'rumoured to have'

'unnamed collage professor'

Can we now please stop feeding the troll?





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On 2019 May 01 17:58:48, you wrote to Lee Lofaso:

Can we now please stop feeding the troll?

do you want to borrow my sign? :lol:

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Hello Bj�rn,

Neil Armstrong (allegedly the first man on the Moon) is
rumored to have disclosed his account of what he and "Buzz"
Aldrin saw to an unnamed college professor during a NASA
symposium.

Just to remind everybody what verified scientific proof Lee has.

'rumoured to have'

'unnamed collage professor'

Can we now please stop feeding the troll?

Feed the trolls. It's important.

Trolls are good. And necessary for the survival of Fidonet.
As such, we should thank them. And help them. By nourishing
them with by all that helps them flourish in our community.

Remember, there are many different kinds of trolls. Each
with his/her own flavor. We know who they are. Especially
the most common types, many in this very forum.

While I will not name names, I am sure you will recognize
them by a description of who they are. Here are some of the
most loveable, or despicable (depending on POV) of the lot -

The insult trolls. These trolls like to imitate the late
Don Rickles, who was a true performance artist, known as the
king of insult. These guys (and dolls) are pure haters, no
doubt about it. They have taken the art of insult to new
levels, even beyond what Don Rickles could do. They pick on
everyone and anyone - without exception - having absolutely
no morals or ethics of their own. Yes, you know who they
are. And you tolerate them, although nobody knows why.
I mean, these trolls accuse people of certain things, call
them names, anything they can do to get a negative emotional
response - or better yet to cause them to have a mental
breakdown. This type of trolling can become so severe that
these trolls should be sent back to reform school - or
wherever they came from - to that they can be cured of their
illness. Which I doubt can be cured.

The debate trolls are different. Much different. These
trolls love to debate. About anything and everything. Makes
no difference if they know what they are talking about. They
just like to debate. Persistently and forever. Without end.
Some of them put in lots of time to research what they are
talking about, and know more than those who brought up whatever
subject that has been brought up. Of course, their message is
always to challenge the message, regardless of what that message
is. These trolls know they are right, and everybody else is
wrong. That is their reason for being. These trolls are so
determined they are right that they continue ranting about
what they are saying well after everybody else has quit.

Then there are the nazi police. You know the kind. Always
correcting folks about their poor use of grammar and spelling.
So please. Make sure you always dot your i's and cross your
t's so as never to run across these trolls.

Some trolls are offended. By everything. Doesn't matter what.
They are forever offended by something. Whatever is discussed,
they are offended. Including jokes. And then they light up
the fireworks and let them fly. Thank goodness it is all digital
fireworks and not the other kind. These trolls are so good at
what they do that nobody can match them. Taking humorous pieces
of content and turning them into an argument by playing the victim.
Now that is more than good, or very good. Some call it pure genius.

The blabbermouth troll is something else. Always showing off
while knowing absolutely nothing about anything. Kind of like
the persistent debate troll, perhaps cousins. Not sure if I
would call them brothers or sisters, as that would be an insult
to other trolls. Unlike like most trolls, the blabbermouth
troll does not like to participate in arguments, preferring to
tell his/her opinion in extreme detail, even if his/her opinion
has absolutely nothing to do with the topic under discussion.
Kind of like a family member or friend who likes to hear the
sound of his/her own voice at the dinner table. They don't
care if anybody else hears them or not. They just keep on
going. And going. And going.

Apart from the intelligent trolls, noted earlier, there is the
profanity and all-caps troll. You know the kind. Having nothing
better to do with one's time, these trolls type in F-bombs and
other curse words - always with their all-caps key locked on.

There are other kinds of trolls, usually found only on Facebook,
but sometimes here when they get lost, such as the one word only
troll. These trolls are far more limited in ability, and rarely
type in anything more than "lol" or "what" or "k" or "yes" or
"no". Far from the worst kind of troll you meet online, but
still ...

We have all met the exaggeration trolls. These trolls are
kind of a combination of other kinds of trolls, not all of them
one and the same. They just like to exaggerate. About everything.
Just give them a topic they want to talk about. And off they go.
These trolls blow everything totally out of proportion. I am
not exactly sure as to how they do it, but they do. And believe
me, they are very good at what they do. Sometimes they do it
to be funny. Sometimes they succeed in making others believe
they know what they are talking about. Others do it for no other
reason than to be annoying.

We have all met the off topic troll. You know the kind. The
troll who never knows what he/she is talking about. Always
bringing up an off-topic message, having absolutely nothing to
do about whatever is being discussed. When this troll succeeds
in shifting the topic and everyone ends up talking about whatever
irrelevant thing the troll has posted, it really makes his/her
day. Even if the troll has left the scene. You see this all
the time in Facebook posts, threaded YouTube comments, on
Twitter and anywhere else there are active discussions going on.

And then there are the greedy spammer trolls. We all know who
they are. Impossible to get rid of, no matter how hard we try.
This is the kind of troll who could care less about your post
or discussion and is only there to benefit himself/herself.
You know the kind. Wants you to check out his/her page. Buy
from his/her link. Use his/her coupon code. Download his/her
free ebook. You see them all the time on social media with
their "follow me!!!" posts.

So. There you go. And these are just some of the most
common types of trolls. There are more. Many more ...

"Trolls just want to have fun." ~Anon

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Hello mark,

Can we now please stop feeding the troll?

do you want to borrow my sign? :lol:

I like mine better, thankyouberrymuch. :)

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Sounds just like "I heard it at University 50 years ago" to me.

I never said that. I *studied* him and his work at uni 50 years ago. Big difference.



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