• Biggest Crash Ever!

    From Lee Lofaso@2:221/360 to All on Tue Mar 10 03:53:45 2020
    Hello Everybody,

    STOCK MARKET CRASHES WITH BIGGEST LOSS IN HISTORY!

    DOW JONES INDUSTRIAL AVERAGE DOWN 2,013 POINTS (7.8%)!
    S&P 500 PLUNGED 7.6%!
    NASDAQ SANK 7.3%!

    * The 30-stock benchmark dowon 2,158 points at its session low!
    * The yield on the 10-year Treasury note dropped below 0.5% for
    the first time ever! The 30-year rate breached 1%! At one point,
    the 10-year rate had slid to 0.318%!

    Yes, the world really is coming to an end.

    The coronavirus came, oil prices tanked, and now the stock
    market comes crashing down! And all The Orange One can think
    of doing or saying is to blame the media and the oil price war
    for the stock market collapse, while telling the American
    people that lower gasoline prices are "good for the consumer."

    Dr. Jonathon Smith of "Lost in Space" was right when he told
    Will Robinson, "We are doomed."

    --Lee

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  • From Gregory Deyss@1:267/150 to Lee Lofaso on Tue Mar 10 07:19:38 2020
    On 10 Mar 2020, Lee Lofaso said the following...

    Hello Everybody,

    STOCK MARKET CRASHES WITH BIGGEST LOSS IN HISTORY!

    DOW JONES INDUSTRIAL AVERAGE DOWN 2,013 POINTS (7.8%)!
    S&P 500 PLUNGED 7.6%!
    NASDAQ SANK 7.3%!

    It's still higher then what it was while Obama was in office.
    It will recover, the sky is not falling chicken little.
    So keep your pants on.

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  • From Ron Lauzon@1:275/89 to Gregory Deyss on Tue Mar 10 18:32:00 2020
    Gregory Deyss wrote to Lee Lofaso <=-

    Hello Everybody,

    STOCK MARKET CRASHES WITH BIGGEST LOSS IN HISTORY!

    DOW JONES INDUSTRIAL AVERAGE DOWN 2,013 POINTS (7.8%)!
    S&P 500 PLUNGED 7.6%!
    NASDAQ SANK 7.3%!

    It's still higher then what it was while Obama was in office.
    It will recover, the sky is not falling chicken little.
    So keep your pants on.

    Didn't I hear that the market had its largest one day growth in history just a few days ago?

    Interesting that the Lefties are always quick to point out anything that matches their Narrative.
    And just as quick to ignore anything that goes against their Narrative.


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  • From Gregory Deyss@1:267/150 to Ron Lauzon on Wed Mar 11 07:06:46 2020
    On 10 Mar 2020, Ron Lauzon said the following...

    Didn't I hear that the market had its largest one day growth in history just a few days ago?
    Yes you did hear right. What a miserable existence it must be to be a
    democrat.
    For all of the spin that is created by the the media (fake news) that
    is cranked out and all of the hearings that are dreamed up in democratic committees, none of it meets their objective. In fact it has the opposite effect, as it shows the people that this President is working for the American people and that Donald Trump is their greatest champion and will be re-elected in a landslide.

    I can not wait until the Presidential debates it might be Crazy Bernie but it is looking like it may be likely to be Sleepy Joe Biden.
    (Does not matter who the nominee is Trump will smoke whoever it is.)

    Did you hear just yesterday 03/09 he told a worker at a automotive plan that
    he was "Full of Shit" when he was responding to a question on gun rights.

    Did you also hear they are limiting his speak time to no more then 15 to 20 minutes. So that he won't trip over his own words or worse say something that when looked at will raise an eyebrow.

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  • From Dale Shipp@1:261/1466 to Gregory Deyss on Thu Mar 12 01:35:02 2020
    On 03-11-20 07:06, Gregory Deyss <=-
    spoke to Ron Lauzon about Re: Biggest Crash Ever! <=-

    Didn't I hear that the market had its largest one day growth in history just a few days ago?

    Yes you did hear right.

    While that may well be true, it was a one day correction to the massive
    drop the stock market had in the preceding days. After that it
    continued its downward plunge. As of today (3/11/2020), it is down 20%
    from its high on 2/12/2020. Whether of not it has hit bottom or not is
    yet to be seen. Funny that we no longer seem to hear Trump using the
    market index as evidence of how great he is doing. The truth is that
    the market follows its on path and politics have limited effect on it.

    Dale Shipp
    fido_261_1466 (at) verizon (dot) net
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  • From Gregory Deyss@1:267/150 to Dale Shipp on Thu Mar 12 06:56:00 2020
    On 12 Mar 2020, Dale Shipp said the following...

    On 03-11-20 07:06, Gregory Deyss <=-
    spoke to Ron Lauzon about Re: Biggest Crash Ever! <=-

    Didn't I hear that the market had its largest one day growth in histo just a few days ago?

    Yes you did hear right.

    While that may well be true, it was a one day correction to the massive drop the stock market had in the preceding days. After that it
    continued its downward plunge. As of today (3/11/2020), it is down 20% from its high on 2/12/2020. Whether of not it has hit bottom or not is yet to be seen. Funny that we no longer seem to hear Trump using the market index as evidence of how great he is doing. The truth is that
    the market follows its on path and politics have limited effect on it.

    What the real punchline is, that you won't admit or give credit to Trump.
    The stock market has hit numbers that have smashed previous records on numerous occasions and it is still higher than at any time while Obama was President.

    This is the difference between a community organizer and a Business Man.

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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:221/360 to Gregory Deyss on Thu Mar 12 16:59:13 2020
    Hello Greg,

    STOCK MARKET CRASHES WITH BIGGEST LOSS IN HISTORY!

    DOW JONES INDUSTRIAL AVERAGE DOWN 2,013 POINTS (7.8%)!
    S&P 500 PLUNGED 7.6%!
    NASDAQ SANK 7.3%!

    It's still higher then what it was while Obama was in office.
    It will recover, the sky is not falling chicken little.
    So keep your pants on.

    Dow Jones average plunged another 1464 points.
    Definitely a bear market.

    --Lee

    Congressional doctor predicts 70-150 million U.S. coronavirus cases

    Source: Axios

    Congress' in-house doctor told Capitol Hill staffers at a close-door
    meeting this week that he expects 70-150 million people in the U.S. —
    roughly a third of the country — to contract the coronavirus, two
    sources briefed on the meeting tell Axios.

    Why it matters: That estimate, which is in line with other projections
    from health experts, underscores the potential seriousness of this
    outbreak even as the White House has been downplaying its severity in
    an attempt to keep public panic at bay.

    Dr. Brian Monahan, the attending physician of the U.S. Congress, told
    Senate chiefs of staff, staff directors, administrative managers and
    chief clerks from both parties on Tuesday that they should prepare for
    the worst, and offered advice on how to remain healthy.

    Read more:

    https://www.axios.com/congressional-physician-predicts-75-150-million- us-coronavirus-cases-fec69e77-1515-4fbc-8340-c53b65c22c53.html

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  • From Dan Cross@3:770/100 to Gregory Deyss on Fri Mar 13 09:35:10 2020
    On 12 Mar 2020 at 06:56a, Gregory Deyss pondered and said...

    What the real punchline is, that you won't admit or give credit to Trump.

    There's nothing to give that numbskull credit for.
    He's flubbed everything he was handed so far, and
    is failing miserably with the 2019-nCoV pandemic.

    The stock market has hit numbers that have smashed previous records on numerous occasions and it is still higher than at any time while Obama
    was President.

    So what? Anyone who knows anything about economics
    knows that that's not a good indicator for how the
    economy as a whole is doing.

    This is the difference between a community organizer and a Business Man.

    The guy's bankrupted everything he's ever touched.
    He's a fool with no skills, no intellectual curiosity,
    no empathy or care for anyone that isn't himself.

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    Do you know how ridiculous this makes you look?

    Son, you're a damned disgrace.

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  • From Gregory Deyss@1:267/150 to Lee Lofaso on Thu Mar 12 17:21:21 2020
    On 12 Mar 2020, Lee Lofaso said the following...

    STOCK MARKET CRASHES WITH BIGGEST LOSS IN HISTORY!
    DOW JONES INDUSTRIAL AVERAGE DOWN 2,013 POINTS (7.8%)!
    S&P 500 PLUNGED 7.6%!
    NASDAQ SANK 7.3%!

    It's still higher then what it was while Obama was in office.
    It will recover, the sky is not falling chicken little.
    So keep your pants on.

    Dow Jones average plunged another 1464 points.
    Definitely a bear market.

    It is still higher than at any point in the Obama Administration.

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  • From Gregory Deyss@1:267/150 to Dan Cross on Thu Mar 12 17:56:59 2020
    On 13 Mar 2020, Dan Cross said the following...

    On 12 Mar 2020 at 06:56a, Gregory Deyss pondered and said...

    What the real punchline is, that you won't admit or give credit to Tr

    There's nothing to give that numbskull credit for.
    He's flubbed everything he was handed so far, and
    is failing miserably with the 2019-nCoV pandemic.

    I see what is happening with the left's attempt politicize this and I also understand as to why this is being attempted. I can also make the prediction based on all previous attempts made by will not work and therefore will fail. Just as the previous Democratic attempts have.

    Do they have a Wal*Mart near you? If so great, (the day after the American election) when you turn on the telly you will see what I am talking about and then you can rush out and get your hot chocolate and crayons at a great
    price.

    The stock market has hit numbers that have smashed previous records on numerous occasions and it is still higher than at any time while Obama was President.

    So what? Anyone who knows anything about economics
    knows that that's not a good indicator for how the
    economy as a whole is doing.

    So what? This is what you have to say? It's obvious that you do not understand economics as there many factors at work here.

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    Do you know how ridiculous this makes you look?

    Given your attitude and how you see the world w/ an left slant.
    Why should I give a rats ass? What you think.

    By the way I do not.

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  • From Dan Cross@3:770/100 to Gregory Deyss on Fri Mar 13 11:44:06 2020
    On 12 Mar 2020 at 05:56p, Gregory Deyss pondered and said...

    I see what is happening with the left's attempt politicize this and I
    also understand as to why this is being attempted. I can also make the

    No, you don't, because that's not happening. You're too
    deluded by the garbage you consume from the likes of
    Limbaugh and Fox to recognize it, though.

    prediction based on all previous attempts made by will not work and prediction based on all previous attempts made by will not work and therefore will fail. Just as the previous Democratic attempts have.

    You live in the same fantasy world that Donald Trump
    lives in; you think life is a John Wayne movie. It's
    not.

    Do they have a Wal*Mart near you? If so great, (the day after the

    Thankfully no.

    American election) when you turn on the telly you will see what I am talking about and then you can rush out and get your hot chocolate and crayons at a great price.

    What the hell does that even mean?

    So what? This is what you have to say? It's obvious that you do not understand economics as there many factors at work here.

    Yes, that's what I have to say. Oh, you think the market
    closing high MEANS something? Please, by all means,
    enlighten me as to exactly what economists share that view?

    Given your attitude and how you see the world w/ an left slant.
    Why should I give a rats ass? What you think.

    Because it's people like me who, day in and day out, save
    idiots like you from yourselves. Just do us a favor and
    don't make it so goddamn hard all the time? Start by not
    being such a moral coward.

    Your inept emperor isn't wearing any clothes, by the way.
    The idiot won't be able to con his way out of this one.

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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:221/360 to Dale Shipp on Fri Mar 13 02:17:05 2020
    Hello Dale,

    Didn't I hear that the market had its largest one day growth in history >RL>just a few days ago?

    Yes you did hear right.

    While that may well be true, it was a one day correction to the massive
    drop the stock market had in the preceding days. After that it
    continued its downward plunge. As of today (3/11/2020), it is down 20%
    from its high on 2/12/2020. Whether of not it has hit bottom or not is
    yet to be seen. Funny that we no longer seem to hear Trump using the
    market index as evidence of how great he is doing. The truth is that
    the market follows its on path and politics have limited effect on it.

    It is infected by the novel coronavirus and may soon die of COVID-19.

    --Lee

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  • From Gregory Deyss@1:267/150 to Dan Cross on Fri Mar 13 12:09:58 2020
    On 13 Mar 2020, Dan Cross said the following...

    On 12 Mar 2020 at 05:56p, Gregory Deyss pondered and said...

    I see what is happening with the left's attempt politicize this and I also understand as to why this is being attempted. I can also make th

    No, you don't, because that's not happening. You're too
    deluded by the garbage you consume from the likes of
    Limbaugh and Fox to recognize it, though.

    I think you might be frustrated with the common sense and the push back that the left has received from Limbaugh and Fox News as well as others. As the theories of the left and their attempt at logic is thrashed. Time and time again.

    prediction based on all previous attempts made by will not work and prediction based on all previous attempts made by will not work and therefore will fail. Just as the previous Democratic attempts have.

    You live in the same fantasy world that Donald Trump
    lives in; you think life is a John Wayne movie. It's not.

    I could list the many accomplishments of Trump as President, but you wouldn't be interested in any of that, because you live in the delusional world of the left. Your seething hatred blinds you; it also keeps your judgment clouded.

    Do they have a Wal*Mart near you?
    Thankfully no.

    American election) when you turn on the telly you will see what I am talking about and then you can rush out and get your hot chocolate an crayons at a great price.

    What the hell does that even mean?

    You mean to suggest you were unaware of the aftermath and the meltdown that occurred at liberal institutions of education, across the USA. The crying jags and the torment in accepting what just happened. It was Hot Chocolate coloring books and crayons that were supplied to help these grown ass adults cope with the fact that their candidate lost.

    It's going to happen again, just thought that you should be prepared for what will happen AGAIN in November of 2020.

    So what? This is what you have to say? It's obvious that you do not
    understand economics as there many factors at work here.

    Yes, that's what I have to say. Oh, you think the market
    closing high MEANS something? Please, by all means,
    enlighten me as to exactly what economists share that view?

    What would be your point, when you have made up your mind or to put it more accurately convinced by the minds of others.

    Given your attitude and how you see the world w/ an left slant.
    Why should I give a rats ass? What you think.

    Because it's people like me who, day in and day out, save
    idiots like you from yourselves. Just do us a favor and
    don't make it so goddamn hard all the time? Start by not
    being such a moral coward.

    Your efforts will remain insufficient, I don't and never did buy in the
    liberal spin or to the alternatives that are of delusional nature.

    Your inept emperor isn't wearing any clothes, by the way.
    The idiot won't be able to con his way out of this one.

    What are you proclaiming now, that he has allegedly done?

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  • From Dan Cross@3:770/100 to Gregory Deyss on Sat Mar 14 10:28:31 2020
    On 13 Mar 2020 at 12:09p, Gregory Deyss pondered and said...

    [right-wing garbage deleted]

    What are you proclaiming now, that he has allegedly done?

    You haven't figured it out yet? Let me guess: you
    actually think he's done a good job handling the
    coronavirus outbreak, right? Didn't Limbaugh call
    it the common cold? Trump tweeted that it wasn't
    a big deal _less than a week ago_.

    You're a fool with no morals and no principals.

    Tell me, why do you hate America and the Constitution
    so much?

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  • From TIM RICHARDSON@1:123/140 to GREGORY DEYSS on Fri Mar 13 15:38:00 2020
    On 03-13-20, DAN CROSS said to GREGORY DEYSS:

    On 12 Mar 2020 at 06:56a, Gregory Deyss pondered and said...

    What the real punchline is, that you won't admit or give credit to Trump.


    There's nothing to give that numbskull credit for.
    He's flubbed everything he was handed so far, and
    is failing miserably with the 2019-nCoV pandemic.


    The guy's bankrupted everything he's ever touched.
    He's a fool with no skills, no intellectual curiosity,
    no empathy or care for anyone that isn't himself.


    I love the way Trump has a talent for setting lefties off on a raving fit!


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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:221/360 to Dan Cross on Sat Mar 14 05:12:14 2020
    Hello Dan,

    I see what is happening with the left's attempt politicize this and I >GD>also understand as to why this is being attempted. I can also make the

    No, you don't, because that's not happening. You're too
    deluded by the garbage you consume from the likes of
    Limbaugh and Fox to recognize it, though.

    Rush Limbaugh received a medal for his efforts.
    Sean Hannity deserves one, too.

    prediction based on all previous attempts made by will not work and >GD>prediction based on all previous attempts made by will not work and >GD>therefore will fail. Just as the previous Democratic attempts have.

    You live in the same fantasy world that Donald Trump
    lives in; you think life is a John Wayne movie. It's
    not.

    Donald Trump never got tested for the coronavirus. So he does
    not have the coronavirus. Even though many of the people he has
    met in the past few days have tested positive for the coronavirus.
    His idiot children, such as Ivanka Trump, never got tested for the
    coronavirus. So she does not have the coronavirus. Even though
    some of the people she has met in the past few days have tested
    positive for the coronavirus. See how that works? All we have
    to do to get rid of the coronavirus is not get tested. And then,
    like a miracle, it will all disappear.

    Do they have a Wal*Mart near you? If so great, (the day after the

    Thankfully no.

    We may all have to start tending our own gardens ...

    American election) when you turn on the telly you will see what I am >GD>talking about and then you can rush out and get your hot chocolate and >GD>crayons at a great price.

    What the hell does that even mean?

    The president declared a national emergency. You do realize
    what this means. If not, allow me to briefly explain what else
    happened today -

    The state of Louisiana postponed its presidential primaries. This is
    a harbinger of things to come. As the coronavirus progresses, it will
    become obvious to all, and most especially the incumbent president,
    that the presidential election in November will have to be postponed indefinitely ...

    So what? This is what you have to say? It's obvious that you do not >GD>understand economics as there many factors at work here.

    Yes, that's what I have to say. Oh, you think the market
    closing high MEANS something? Please, by all means,
    enlighten me as to exactly what economists share that view?

    What goes up must come down ...

    Given your attitude and how you see the world w/ an left slant.
    Why should I give a rats ass? What you think.

    Because it's people like me who, day in and day out, save
    idiots like you from yourselves. Just do us a favor and
    don't make it so goddamn hard all the time? Start by not
    being such a moral coward.

    The only moral coward I have ever heard about was Dorothy's best
    friend Cowardly Lion in the Wizard of Oz. But I had always thought
    that was fiction rather than reality.

    Your inept emperor isn't wearing any clothes, by the way.
    The idiot won't be able to con his way out of this one.

    "No, I don't take responsibility at all." ~Donald Trump, 3/13/2020

    --Lee

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  • From Gregory Deyss@1:267/150 to Dan Cross on Sat Mar 14 08:49:01 2020
    On 14 Mar 2020, Dan Cross said the following...

    On 13 Mar 2020 at 12:09p, Gregory Deyss pondered and said...

    [right-wing garbage deleted]

    Which is why I did not waste my time providing facts that you would simply dismiss or take out of context.

    What are you proclaiming now, that he has allegedly done?

    You haven't figured it out yet? Let me guess: you
    actually think he's done a good job handling the
    coronavirus outbreak, right?

    The corona virus will pass, it has been sensationalized, politicized and
    some with the leftist media have used the fear as a weapon.
    Calling it Trump's Virus as well as referring to this as Trump's Katrina..

    Look up what Limbaugh said..

    Tell me, why do you hate America and the Constitution so much?

    Your question makes no since, because you have it ass backwards.
    I do not consider myself to be a Republican, but a Conservative.
    As such I love America and adore the U.S. Constitution.

    As I'm sure if you speak to other Trump Supporters if your in the United States you will get to hear the same things.

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  • From Gregory Deyss@1:267/150 to TIM RICHARDSON on Sat Mar 14 09:09:54 2020
    On 13 Mar 2020, TIM RICHARDSON said the following...

    On 03-13-20, DAN CROSS said to GREGORY DEYSS:

    On 12 Mar 2020 at 06:56a, Gregory Deyss pondered and said...

    What the real punchline is, that you won't admit or give credit to Tru


    There's nothing to give that numbskull credit for.
    He's flubbed everything he was handed so far, and
    is failing miserably with the 2019-nCoV pandemic.


    The guy's bankrupted everything he's ever touched.
    He's a fool with no skills, no intellectual curiosity,
    no empathy or care for anyone that isn't himself.


    I love the way Trump has a talent for setting lefties off on a raving
    fit!

    I know, but perhaps he will be better prepared now that I have informed what was utilized to calm the outrage in 2016.

    Rendering a quieting, comforting silence as the liberal college students grip their crayons with renewed determination; as they do their best to stay within the lines.

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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:221/360 to TIM RICHARDSON on Sat Mar 14 20:31:25 2020
    Hello Tim,

    What the real punchline is, that you won't admit or give credit to Trump.


    There's nothing to give that numbskull credit for.
    He's flubbed everything he was handed so far, and
    is failing miserably with the 2019-nCoV pandemic.


    The guy's bankrupted everything he's ever touched.
    He's a fool with no skills, no intellectual curiosity,
    no empathy or care for anyone that isn't himself.


    I love the way Trump has a talent for setting lefties off on a raving fit!

    Fuck the election, put Biden in charge now.

    --Lee

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  • From Dan Cross@3:770/100 to TIM RICHARDSON on Sun Mar 15 10:51:20 2020
    On 13 Mar 2020 at 03:38p, TIM RICHARDSON pondered and said...

    I love the way Trump has a talent for setting lefties off on a raving
    fit!

    Why do you hate America so much?

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  • From Dan Cross@3:770/100 to Lee Lofaso on Sun Mar 15 10:54:23 2020
    On 14 Mar 2020 at 05:12a, Lee Lofaso pondered and said...

    "No, I don't take responsibility at all." ~Donald Trump, 3/13/2020

    It was hilarious to watch all the Pharma execs
    run away as he tried to shake their hands at the
    "Dear Leader" press conference yesterday. Talk
    about leading from the front! What an example!

    I thought Pence would pop his eyes out of his
    sockets if he tried to stick his nose any further
    up Trump's ass.

    The right-wingers can't con their way of the
    mess this time. It's almost funny to watch them
    try; I guess they still think that it's just the
    common cold like Regan and Limbaugh think.

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  • From Dan Cross@3:770/100 to Gregory Deyss on Sun Mar 15 11:10:36 2020
    On 14 Mar 2020 at 08:49a, Gregory Deyss pondered and said...

    Which is why I did not waste my time providing facts that you would
    simply dismiss or take out of context.

    Translation: "I have no facts, because I'm a right-wing
    idiot and we don't do facts."

    You haven't figured it out yet? Let me guess: you
    actually think he's done a good job handling the
    coronavirus outbreak, right?

    The corona virus will pass, it has been sensationalized, politicized and some with the leftist media have used the fear as a weapon.
    Calling it Trump's Virus as well as referring to this as Trump's
    Katrina..

    If it's just being over-sensationalized, why did the
    president declare a national state of emergency yesterday?
    Why is he getting tested?

    Trump owns our utter FAILURE to address this in a
    timely manner. Like the idiot he is, he thought he
    could just build a wall (put in travel restrictions
    from China) and that would be good enough to stop
    it. Now, we're _exactly_ where Italy was 7 days ago
    in terms of the number of cases, except we don't know
    how many cases there really are because the idiot
    didn't start testing aggressively until now. Why?
    Because he didn't want to know the numbers because
    they would make him look bad.

    He was all about praising himself about tests yesterday.
    Well, where are they?

    Look up what Limbaugh said..

    "It's the common cold." Really smart from a guy with
    stage 4 lung cancer. Limbaugh also said that smoking
    doesn't cause cancer.

    Wow. Only stupid people listen to what Rush Limbaugh
    says and take him seriously.

    Your question makes no since, because you have it ass backwards.
    I do not consider myself to be a Republican, but a Conservative.
    As such I love America and adore the U.S. Constitution.

    No you don't. You hate America and everything that
    makes her great. You can't stand the Constitution.
    You would never stand up for it or for what is morally
    right. Oh, you'll wrap yourself in the flag all right,
    but you know deep in your hear that you don't rate it.

    You aren't even really a conservative; you're just a
    cruel loser who wants to lash out at those who are
    better, smarter, and more successful than you. That's
    why you worship a false god that those of us from New
    York City used as a punchline for decades until idiots
    started taking him seriously and actually elected him
    president! Now that's a joke....

    As I'm sure if you speak to other Trump Supporters if your in the United States you will get to hear the same things.

    Now, we face an unprecedented pandemic, and the most
    unqualified, stupid, benighted president in our history
    is in way, way over his head. For the good of us all,
    why don't you finally have the goddamn common decency
    to admit it, step aside, and let the experts handle the
    situation? You faux-conservatives are going to cost
    people their lives. Well, since you're ok with locking
    kids up in concentration camps, I guess you won't care.

    I'll say it again: Son, you're a goddamn disgrace.

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  • From Gary Ailes@1:129/328 to Dan Cross on Sat Mar 14 21:03:38 2020
    I thought Pence would pop his eyes out of his
    sockets if he tried to stick his nose any further
    up Trump's ass.

    "Today, with the great leadership of President Trump, I pooped in the potty
    all by myself". -Mike Pence

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  • From Gregory Deyss@1:267/150 to Lee Lofaso on Sun Mar 15 07:51:48 2020
    On 14 Mar 2020, Lee Lofaso said the following...

    Hello Tim,

    What the real punchline is, that you won't admit or give credit to Tru


    There's nothing to give that numbskull credit for.
    He's flubbed everything he was handed so far, and
    is failing miserably with the 2019-nCoV pandemic.


    The guy's bankrupted everything he's ever touched.
    He's a fool with no skills, no intellectual curiosity,
    no empathy or care for anyone that isn't himself.


    I love the way Trump has a talent for setting lefties off on a raving fit

    Fuck the election, put Biden in charge now.

    "All men and women are created, by the, you know, you know the thing,"

    There have been many gaffs, if he steps into the ring with Trump.

    Trump will destroy Biden.

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  • From Gregory Deyss@1:267/150 to Dan Cross on Sun Mar 15 08:41:14 2020
    If it's just being over-sensationalized, why did the
    president declare a national state of emergency yesterday?
    Why is he getting tested?

    Curious, do you not watch the news or is it that you are many hundreds of miles from the USA and therefore are not aware of what happens here?

    The President was not going to be tested, but his advisors probably convinced him that it would be a very good idea because of the Fact that he was sitting next to a Brazilian leader who has the corona virus, they even shook hands. The President had no ill effects but was tested as a precaution.

    My office was closed Tuesday and Friday, because on Wednesday 3/11
    management called for a office wide meeting, we were all told that there is an employee who pre-quarantined herself at home.

    Trump owns our utter FAILURE to address this in a
    timely manner. Like the idiot he is, he thought he
    could just build a wall (put in travel restrictions
    from China) and that would be good enough to stop
    it. Now, we're _exactly_ where Italy was 7 days ago
    in terms of the number of cases, except we don't know
    how many cases there really are because the idiot
    didn't start testing aggressively until now. Why?
    Because he didn't want to know the numbers because
    they would make him look bad.

    Several inaccurate statements.
    The wall has nothing to corona virus. It was built to stop the hordes of freeloaders from coming into the USA. You know what else this wall has a
    door. Known as ports of entry.

    Restrictions on Travel is smart it is not xenophobic and it has saved many hundreds of lives.

    No you don't. You hate America and everything that
    makes her great. You can't stand the Constitution.
    You would never stand up for it or for what is morally
    right. Oh, you'll wrap yourself in the flag all right,
    but you know deep in your hear that you don't rate it.

    Again you wrong, everything you have within the 5 above lines is reversed
    from what you indicated.

    It's the Democratic Party that has an issue with the American Flag as it is
    not seen in abundance at the Democratic Debates.
    The Democratic Party uses people like pawns, they hand out free shit, to bribe them for their vote.
    Think I am wrong?
    Then take a good hard look at San Francisco, California.
    People defecating in the streets. Drug needles in the streets by the hundreds. You would not live among this filth for 5 minutes, people do though.

    You aren't even really a conservative; you're just a
    cruel loser who wants to lash out at those who are
    better, smarter, and more successful than you.

    If you have to brag, then your not even remotely those things.
    Sounds like more of a Fantasy of yours or perhaps a alter-ego.
    You sound very much like your hammering keys within a white castle on a top
    of hill. (when in fact your probably in your pj's or underwear in your mom's basement.) Clean yourself up, your a disgrace.

    Now, we face an unprecedented pandemic, and the most
    unqualified, stupid, benighted president in our history
    is in way, way over his head. For the good of us all,
    why don't you finally have the goddamn common decency
    to admit it, step aside, and let the experts handle the
    situation?

    Someone like Obama, perhaps? who did not stop travel and what happened thousands died. No thanks, I will keep my President who is a business man,
    not a clueless black man, who was a community organizer.

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  • From Dan Cross@3:770/100 to Gregory Deyss on Mon Mar 16 03:19:27 2020
    On 15 Mar 2020 at 08:41a, Gregory Deyss pondered and said...

    If it's just being over-sensationalized, why did the
    president declare a national state of emergency yesterday?
    Why is he getting tested?

    Curious, do you not watch the news or is it that you are many hundreds
    of miles from the USA and therefore are not aware of what happens here?

    First of all, I'm actually a proud American. Unlike
    you faux-conservatives, I actually love my country.

    But what does where I live have to do with my question?
    If you think it's being over-sensationalized, why did
    he declare a state of emergency? Why, a week ago, was
    he saying it's no big deal and people with it should go
    to work? Why has the GOP blocked congressional efforts
    to provide relief bills? Why has Mitch McConnell gone
    on a long weekend instead of staying to deal with this
    crisis?

    The President was not going to be tested, but his advisors probably convinced him that it would be a very good idea because of the Fact that he was sitting next to a Brazilian leader who has the corona virus, they even shook hands. The President had no ill effects but was tested as a precaution.

    According to Rush Limbaugh, who you've admitted you
    listen to, it's just the common cold. So what's the
    big deal?

    My office was closed Tuesday and Friday, because on Wednesday 3/11 management called for a office wide meeting, we were all told that there is an employee who pre-quarantined herself at home.

    Sounds like it might be a bigger deal than you fake
    conservatives tried to make it out to be, huh?

    Several inaccurate statements.
    The wall has nothing to corona virus. It was built to stop the hordes of freeloaders from coming into the USA. You know what else this wall has a door. Known as ports of entry.

    Ah, I see you cannot parse a metaphor. I'm not surprised.
    What's your level of education?

    The reason I put "travel restrictions from China" in
    parenthesis was because that's a metaphor for a wall:
    Ie, the flawed logic that keeping the infected out will
    protect us.

    The rest of your drivel is debunked nonsense.

    Restrictions on Travel is smart it is not xenophobic and it has saved
    many hundreds of lives.

    It was in fact the right thing to do. However, the only
    real effect it would have had was buying us time to prepare.
    But Trump, the idiot that he is, squandered that opportunity.

    In other words, and this is where you and the rest of the
    right-wing noise machine are just plain wrong, travel
    restrictions by themselves don't work: they only buy you
    time. So while it was a good idea to put in the restrictions,
    the necessary follow-through wasn't done because it would
    have made Trump look bad.

    You and the rest of the sheep continue to bleat about what
    a great idea it was without acknowledging that the other
    more important opportunity it _could_ have afforded us was
    squandered.

    Again you wrong, everything you have within the 5 above lines is reversed from what you indicated.

    How, precisely, am I wrong?

    It's the Democratic Party that has an issue with the American Flag as it is not seen in abundance at the Democratic Debates.

    First of all, I'm not a Democrat, but....

    The American Flag is _not_ the country. If you loved our
    Constitution, you'd understand that it is an American's
    right not to display it if they don't want.

    But right-wingers can't understand that, because they lack
    the mental capacity to distinguish between the symbol (ie,
    the flag), and the thing that it symbolizes (ie, the nation).

    If your metric is how many flags are displayed, then you're
    just wrong. This is America, not Nazi Germany.

    The Democratic Party uses people like pawns, they hand out free shit, to bribe them for their vote.

    Oh really? What free shit are they handing out? This
    ought to be amusing....

    Think I am wrong?

    I don't think, I know.

    Then take a good hard look at San Francisco, California.
    People defecating in the streets. Drug needles in the streets by the hundreds. You would not live among this filth for 5 minutes, people do though.

    I've been to San Francisco. Yeah, one screwed up city
    is obviously an indictment of more than half the country.

    How about we look at the right-wing rural areas? Lack
    of industry, chronic health morbidities including obesity,
    high-blood pressure, diabetes; unemployment; lack of
    education; chronic substance abuse; crime; domestic violence;
    high rates of STDs and teen pregnancy; lack of access to
    healthcare; a megachurch on every corner with some idiot
    preacher spouting a hateful perversion of whatever is in
    the new testament; the list goes on and on and on. I
    can step over the feces in San Francisco, but the problems
    in the red states are backed into generations of ignorance
    and inbreeding.

    You aren't even really a conservative; you're just a
    cruel loser who wants to lash out at those who are
    better, smarter, and more successful than you.

    If you have to brag, then your not even remotely those things.

    You're not much on reading comprehension, are you?

    You sound very much like your hammering keys within a white castle on a top of hill. (when in fact your probably in your pj's or underwear in
    your mom's basement.) Clean yourself up, your a disgrace.

    Well, we know YOU can't be in your mom's basement because
    most double-wide's don't have basements.

    Someone like Obama, perhaps? who did not stop travel and what happened thousands died. No thanks, I will keep my President who is a business man, not a clueless black man, who was a community organizer.

    Ah! It FINALLY comes out! You were just mad that Obama
    is black. Well, thanks for admitting it. Compare Obama's
    reactions to both H1N1 and Ebola to Trump's inaction on
    COVID-19. Who disbanded the pandemic response team on the
    NSC?

    Trump is a joke.

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  • From Gary Ailes@1:129/328 to Gregory Deyss on Sun Mar 15 18:33:09 2020
    On 15 Mar 2020, Gregory Deyss said the following...
    Someone like Obama, perhaps? who did not stop travel and what happened thousands died. No thanks, I will keep my President who is a business man, not a clueless black man, who was a community organizer.

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  • From Ron Lauzon@1:275/89 to Gregory Deyss on Mon Mar 16 17:47:00 2020
    Gregory Deyss wrote to Ron Lauzon <=-

    On 10 Mar 2020, Ron Lauzon said the following...

    Yes you did hear right. What a miserable existence it must be to be a democrat.

    Ya, they keep having to ignore all the good things that happen. It must be very hard for them. 8)

    But I did recently hear that people on the Left are less happy, in general.

    I can not wait until the Presidential debates it might be Crazy Bernie
    but it is looking like it may be likely to be Sleepy Joe Biden.
    (Does not matter who the nominee is Trump will smoke whoever it is.)

    Now, those debates I want to see. I figure that Biden will forget where he is and walk off the stage at some point.

    Did you hear just yesterday 03/09 he told a worker at a automotive plan that he was "Full of Shit" when he was responding to a question on gun rights.

    Yes, I did see that. For a moment, I couldn't believe that Biden said that. But then I remembered. It was Biden.
    I feel so sorry for the guy. Sort of like when you go visit senile Uncle Ed and Aunt Mary is made at him and lets him wander around without help.

    Did you also hear they are limiting his speak time to no more then 15
    to 20 minutes. So that he won't trip over his own words or worse say something that when looked at will raise an eyebrow.

    Just Joe being Joe.


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  • From Ron Lauzon@1:275/89 to Gregory Deyss on Mon Mar 16 17:53:00 2020
    Gregory Deyss wrote to Lee Lofaso <=-

    "All men and women are created, by the, you know, you know the thing,"

    There have been many gaffs, if he steps into the ring with Trump.

    Trump will destroy Biden.

    Trump doesn't have to do anything. Biden will destroy himself.


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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:221/360 to Ron Lauzon on Tue Mar 17 05:11:26 2020
    Hello Ron,

    "All men and women are created, by the, you know, you know the thing,"

    There have been many gaffs, if he steps into the ring with Trump.

    Trump will destroy Biden.

    Trump doesn't have to do anything. Biden will destroy himself.

    Dow Jones hit a new low - losing 2,997 points in a single day.
    That is a loss of 12.9% for the day.
    The S&P 500 dropped 12% for the day.
    Nasdaq closed 12.3% lower (worst day ever).

    Dow down 31.7% from its all-time high.
    S&P 500 and Nasdaq more than 29% below records.

    This is 1929 all over again.

    With a new FDR about to be elected ...

    --Lee

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  • From Dan Cross@3:770/100 to Ron Lauzon on Tue Mar 17 17:49:08 2020
    On 16 Mar 2020 at 05:47p, Ron Lauzon pondered and said...


    Gregory Deyss wrote to Ron Lauzon <=-

    Yes you did hear right. What a miserable existence it must be to be a democrat.

    Ya, they keep having to ignore all the good things that happen. It must be very hard for them. 8)

    It's not hard at all, since so few good things come
    out of the Trump administration. What, precisely, is
    being ignored? Be specific.

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  • From TIM RICHARDSON@1:123/140 to GREGORY DEYSS on Fri Mar 20 18:54:00 2020
    On 03-14-20, GREGORY DEYSS said to TIM RICHARDSON:

    On 13 Mar 2020, TIM RICHARDSON said the following...


    I love the way Trump has a talent for setting lefties off on a raving
    fit!


    I know, but perhaps he will be better prepared now that I have informed GD>what was utilized to calm the outrage in 2016.


    Rendering a quieting, comforting silence as the liberal college students GD>grip their crayons with renewed determination; as they do their best to GD>stay within the lines.


    Reminds me of what someone said once; "Life is tough. Its even tougher if you're stupid."


    Not all....but most liberals are just plain stupid.

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  • From TIM RICHARDSON@1:123/140 to ALL on Fri Mar 20 19:04:00 2020
    On 03-14-20, LEE LOFASO said to TIM RICHARDSON:

    Hello Tim,

    What the real punchline is, that you won't admit or give credit to Trump.


    There's nothing to give that numbskull credit for.
    He's flubbed everything he was handed so far, and
    is failing miserably with the 2019-nCoV pandemic.


    The guy's bankrupted everything he's ever touched.
    He's a fool with no skills, no intellectual curiosity,
    no empathy or care for anyone that isn't himself.


    I love the way Trump has a talent for setting lefties off on a raving fit!


    Fuck the election, put Biden in charge now.


    Here's a question I saw asked recently about Bernie Sanders, but it also applies to Joe Biden:


    If Biden and Sanders think their socialist policies are so good....why didn't they both move to socialist countries instead of becoming millionaires in America?

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  • From TIM RICHARDSON@1:123/140 to GREGORY DEYSS on Fri Mar 20 19:11:00 2020
    On 03-15-20, GREGORY DEYSS said to LEE LOFASO:

    On 14 Mar 2020, Lee Lofaso said the following...


    Fuck the election, put Biden in charge now.


    "All men and women are created, by the, you know, you know the thing,"


    There have been many gaffs, if he steps into the ring with Trump.


    Trump will destroy Biden.


    It seems to me Biden will be their nominee.


    And if he is I suspect this will be one of the biggest landslide victories in presidential campaign history! Biden will lose.

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  • From TIM RICHARDSON@1:123/140 to GREGORY DEYSS on Fri Mar 20 19:20:00 2020
    On 03-15-20, GREGORY DEYSS said to DAN CROSS:


    You aren't even really a conservative; you're just a
    cruel loser who wants to lash out at those who are
    better, smarter, and more successful than you.


    If you have to brag, then your not even remotely those things.


    One of the MANY reasons I rarely if ever exchange conversation with
    such a person can be seen in his sentence above. A quick read of it tells
    you there is no intelligent life there at all. So why bother?

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  • From TIM RICHARDSON@1:123/140 to GREGORY DEYSS on Fri Mar 20 20:07:00 2020
    On 03-14-20, DAN CROSS said to GREGORY DEYSS:


    You're a fool with no morals and no principals.



    These two people:


    *Made up fake crimes to hurt Donald Trump


    *Lied to law enforcement


    *Repeatedly lied to the American public


    *Are national laughing stocks



    Jessie Smollett.....Adam Schiff


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  • From TIM RICHARDSON@1:123/140 to GREGORY DEYSS on Fri Mar 20 20:28:00 2020
    man, not a clueless black man, who was a community organizer.


    Ah! It FINALLY comes out! You were just mad that Obama
    is black.


    Obama is only half-black.





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  • From Gary Ailes@1:129/328 to TIM RICHARDSON on Sat Mar 21 08:04:23 2020
    On 20 Mar 2020, TIM RICHARDSON said the following...
    It seems to me Biden will be their nominee.


    And if he is I suspect this will be one of the biggest landslide
    victories in presidential campaign history! Biden will lose.

    Nope. Trump barely won the electoral college in 2016 and lost the popular
    vote big time. His base is strong and he's lost no support there, but he hasn't brought anyone new to the base.

    I'm not saying that he can't win 2020, 2016 proved that anything is possible. But a landslide win? Not going to happen. If there is a landslide it will be in Biden's favor.

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  • From Dan Cross@3:770/100 to TIM RICHARDSON on Sun Mar 22 05:54:56 2020
    On 20 Mar 2020 at 07:04p, TIM RICHARDSON pondered and said...

    Here's a question I saw asked recently about Bernie Sanders, but it also applies to Joe Biden:

    If Biden and Sanders think their socialist policies are so good....why didn't they both move to socialist countries instead of becoming millionaires in America?

    Maybe because they love their countries and want to make
    them better, unlike most right-wingers?

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  • From Dan Cross@3:770/100 to TIM RICHARDSON on Sun Mar 22 05:56:20 2020
    On 20 Mar 2020 at 07:11p, TIM RICHARDSON pondered and said...

    And if he is I suspect this will be one of the biggest landslide
    victories in presidential campaign history! Biden will lose.

    Yeah, I think not, unless the right-wingers and their
    enablers steal the election by declaring some kind of
    emergency. But after seeing just how badly Trump has
    fumbled the COVID-19 response, one wonders just how
    ignorant and cruel one has to be to vote for that man.

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  • From Dan Cross@3:770/100 to TIM RICHARDSON on Sun Mar 22 05:57:10 2020
    On 20 Mar 2020 at 07:20p, TIM RICHARDSON pondered and said...

    One of the MANY reasons I rarely if ever exchange conversation with
    such a person can be seen in his sentence above. A quick read of it tells you there is no intelligent life there at all. So why bother?

    Well, you really OWNED ME, Cletus. You talk about
    people in the third person without engaging them often?

    Lack of intelligence, indeed.

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  • From Dan Cross@3:770/100 to TIM RICHARDSON on Sun Mar 22 05:59:20 2020
    On 20 Mar 2020 at 08:07p, TIM RICHARDSON pondered and said...

    You're a fool with no morals and no principals.

    These two people:
    *Made up fake crimes to hurt Donald Trump

    Nope.

    *Lied to law enforcement

    Huh?

    *Repeatedly lied to the American public

    You mean Trump?

    It'll just disappear like a miracle?
    It's all under control?
    Cases are close to zero and going down?

    *Are national laughing stocks

    You mean Trump?

    Jessie Smollett.....Adam Schiff

    You're not very smart, are you?

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  • From Dan Cross@3:770/100 to TIM RICHARDSON on Sun Mar 22 05:59:52 2020
    On 20 Mar 2020 at 08:28p, TIM RICHARDSON pondered and said...

    Obama is only half-black.

    I see. So that makes Gregory's racism somehow tolerable?

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  • From Mike Miller@1:154/30.1 to TIM RICHARDSON on Sat Mar 21 10:22:20 2020
    Hello, TIM RICHARDSON.
    On 3/20/20 7:04 PM you wrote:

    Fuck the election, put Biden in charge now.
    Here's a question I saw asked recently about Bernie Sanders, but
    it also applies to Joe Biden: If Biden and Sanders think their
    socialist policies are so good....why didn't they both move to
    socialist countries instead of becoming millionaires in America?

    Here's a question for you:

    How do you feel about the socialist policies being put in place to prop up the capitalist economy?



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  • From Ron Lauzon@1:275/89 to Gary Ailes on Sun Mar 22 09:02:00 2020
    Gary Ailes wrote to TIM RICHARDSON <=-

    Nope. Trump barely won the electoral college in 2016 and lost the
    popular vote big time. His base is strong and he's lost no support
    there, but he hasn't brought anyone new to the base.

    Ah, yes the "popular vote" argument. There's a big reason why we don't elect the President via popular vote.
    Research why the Electorial College was created in the first place to see why.

    But here's the tl;dr:
    If the President was elected by popular vote, then the areas that have large population concentration (think New York, (maybe) California) would effectively elect the President.
    The Electorial College system was created so that the President needed to have WIDE SPREAD support across the WHOLE country.

    Hilary certainly didn't have that support (especially calling most of those people "deplorables") so she lost.

    It's also why Trump will win in 2020. Easily.

    I'm not saying that he can't win 2020, 2016 proved that anything is possible. But a landslide win? Not going to happen. If there is a landslide it will be in Biden's favor.

    *Laugh* It's obvious that Biden is in early stage dementia. He's already disqualified to run.

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  • From Ron Lauzon@1:275/89 to Dan Cross on Sun Mar 22 09:04:00 2020
    Maybe because they love their countries and want to make
    them better, unlike most right-wingers?

    I think you meant to say "unlike most left-wingers".

    Places like Venesuela and California are failing due to LEFT WING policies.

    Of course, the Lefties won't want to admit that.

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  • From Dan Cross@3:770/100 to Ron Lauzon on Tue Mar 24 01:32:41 2020
    On 22 Mar 2020 at 09:04a, Ron Lauzon pondered and said...

    Maybe because they love their countries and want to make
    them better, unlike most right-wingers?

    I think you meant to say "unlike most left-wingers".

    No, I mean right-wingers. People who support Trump hate
    America. It's that simple.

    Places like Venesuela and California are failing due to LEFT WING policies.

    California is failing? Ok. LOL.

    Only stupid people fail to recognize that "not right-wing"
    does not mean "Venezuelan dictatorships."

    Of course, the Lefties won't want to admit that.

    You're not very intelligent, are you?

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  • From Ron Lauzon@1:275/89 to Dan Cross on Tue Mar 24 12:49:00 2020
    Dan Cross wrote to Ron Lauzon <=-

    No, I mean right-wingers. People who support Trump hate
    America. It's that simple.

    You see, there's most of your problem. You are stuck in your little bubble where all "good" people are. You seem to think that if someone isn't in that same bubble that they must be totally evil. In this case, non-Leftie must mean ignorant racists so-called "right wing" groups (who, interestingly, have much more in common with you Lefties).

    California is failing? Ok. LOL.

    It's no surprise. You ignore the homelessness, the companies and middle-class fleeing the state, the 3rd world diseases, etc. because they don't match your narrative.

    Only stupid people fail to recognize that "not right-wing"
    does not mean "Venezuelan dictatorships."

    You're not very intelligent, are you?

    When a Leftie resorts to personal attacks instead of arguments, it means he has lost and refuses to accept it.


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  • From Dan Cross@3:770/100 to Ron Lauzon on Wed Mar 25 11:47:20 2020
    On 24 Mar 2020 at 12:49p, Ron Lauzon pondered and said...

    Dan Cross wrote to Ron Lauzon <=-

    No, I mean right-wingers. People who support Trump hate
    America. It's that simple.

    You see, there's most of your problem. You are stuck in your little bubble where all "good" people are. You seem to think that if someone isn't in that same bubble that they must be totally evil. In this case, non-Leftie must mean ignorant racists so-called "right wing" groups
    (who, interestingly, have much more in common with you Lefties).

    LOL. Ok, Boomer. You were the one screeching about left-leaning
    people hating Trump.

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:267/150 to Dan Cross on Tue Mar 31 18:55:28 2020
    According to Rush Limbaugh, who you've admitted you
    listen to, it's just the common cold. So what's the
    big deal?

    Rush Limbaugh is an entertainer; why not check him out once in a while? He's not always right, and not all conservatives are following his advice. Rush's commentary is as good as mine.

    But right-wingers can't understand that, because they lack

    I don't know where you're from, but I don't see these "right-wingers"
    anywhere. Everyone except the liberal media is thrilled with the economy (before the virus.) The only thing democrats don't like about the strong economy is that there's a Republican who helped ignite it.

    Why hate? Why choose sides over generalizations? If a democrat did anything
    to help the USA instead of his or herself, I'd give them credit for it. Why
    are democrats and/or liberals so reluctant to do the same for republicans?

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  • From mark lewis@1:3634/12 to Aaron Thomas on Tue Mar 31 19:51:22 2020
    Re: Re: Biggest Crash Ever!
    By: Aaron Thomas to Dan Cross on Tue Mar 31 2020 18:55:28


    But right-wingers can't understand that, because they lack

    I don't know where you're from, but I don't see these "right-wingers" anywhere.

    the ones going around shouting about "liberals" and "lefties" *are* the right-wingers... yourself included... if you weren't, you'd be carrying on about both, left-wingers and right-wingers, as well as both, liberals and conservatives... trump is definitely not in the center and if you are 98% with trump as you say, then you are a right-winger and conservative ;)


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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:267/150 to mark lewis on Wed Apr 1 13:12:05 2020
    the ones going around shouting about "liberals" and "lefties" *are* the right-wingers... yourself included... if you weren't, you'd be carrying

    It's unproductive to be too "far" on either side, but it's also unproductive
    to be pessimistic or to have a sour attitude towards a man just because of
    his downstate accent or because of how many chicks he's nailed.

    What makes me far-right? I love Trump's policies - I'm a huge supporter
    - but that doesn't mean I support ALL of his policies from a to z or that I support everything other republicans do from a to z. In my opinion, this is
    why it's unfair to call me "the far right."

    I'll call you a liberal because you dislike Trump so much; it's a clear sign that you fit in the liberal category. However, I won't call you "far-left" until I see you protesting in the streets demanding that the nation convert
    to vegan.

    The media, though, is totally the far-left. Like Lee said, ABC News cuts Trump's daily briefings off because they want to try to trick people into thinking the briefings are politically motivated - you ever heard the expression "those who accuse others are guilty themselves?"

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:267/150 to Ron Lauzon on Wed Apr 1 13:36:24 2020
    Because the Narrative is "we are good, everyone else is bad" and the Narrative is always true - no matter what the facts are.

    I think CNN was covering a story on koalah bear cubs while senate dems were asking for the removal of wind-turbines in the coronavirus bill.

    Then later in the day they had a headline that read "the president's stalled coronavirus bill finally gets signed into law" like it was the president's fault.

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  • From Ron Lauzon@1:275/89 to Aaron Thomas on Wed Apr 1 12:18:00 2020
    Aaron Thomas wrote to Dan Cross <=-

    I don't know where you're from, but I don't see these "right-wingers" anywhere.

    Keep in mind that Dan is in the far left. He thinks he's middle, but he's not even close. So anyone who isn't left is "far right" to him.

    Everyone except the liberal media is thrilled with the
    economy (before the virus.) The only thing democrats don't like about
    the strong economy is that there's a Republican who helped ignite it.

    Sort of. The Democrats have been creating "urban plantations" for a while now.
    Areas where people are dependant on their hand outs, so they always vote for them.

    A good economy also provides them less power: since they can't pick the winners and losers anymore (and, therefore, can't get their bribes).

    Why hate? Why choose sides over generalizations? If a democrat did anything to help the USA instead of his or herself, I'd give them
    credit for it. Why are democrats and/or liberals so reluctant to do the same for republicans?

    Because the Narrative is "we are good, everyone else is bad" and the Narrative is always true - no matter what the facts are.

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  • From Dan Cross@3:770/100 to Aaron Thomas on Fri Apr 3 07:14:35 2020
    On 31 Mar 2020 at 06:55p, Aaron Thomas pondered and said...

    According to Rush Limbaugh, who you've admitted you
    listen to, it's just the common cold. So what's the
    big deal?

    Rush Limbaugh is an entertainer; why not check him out once in a while? He's not always right, and not all conservatives are following his
    advice. Rush's commentary is as good as mine.

    Why would I? His "entertainment" is at best puerile and
    immature. At worst, he's actively harmful by spreading
    misinformation.

    But right-wingers can't understand that, because they lack

    I don't know where you're from, but I don't see these "right-wingers" anywhere. Everyone except the liberal media is thrilled with the economy (before the virus.) The only thing democrats don't like about the strong economy is that there's a Republican who helped ignite it.

    I know a lot of economists. They universally agree that
    we are headed for a long recession, if not depression.
    Further, the acuity of unemployment claims underlies the
    truth about Trump's numbers: they were illusory. Under-employed,
    low-wage service sector jobs cut down on the rate, but
    weren't indicators of economic strength or security.
    A 2% growth rate was hardly "booming".

    Further, it baffles me that you right-wing types still
    talk about "before the virus" like that's a thing. Had
    Trump taken the virus seriously instead of golfing or
    holding rallies, perhaps we could have staved off the
    worse of the economic damage. But he didn't.

    Why hate? Why choose sides over generalizations? If a democrat did anything to help the USA instead of his or herself, I'd give them credit for it. Why are democrats and/or liberals so reluctant to do the same
    for republicans?

    They're not. They just see the truth.

    My metric is this: there are objective indicators of
    fact in this world; things that are measurable in
    scientifically and statistically sound ways. When one
    party aligns most closely with those things most often
    and the other does the opposite, I tend to believe the
    ones who align with fact over those who align with
    "alternative fact."

    The Republicans and the right-wing live in a fantasy
    world built on lies. But reality doesn't care about
    your belief system; reality just is.

    Again, we see reality sweeping away the facade of the
    right-wing lie factory.

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  • From Gregory Deyss@1:267/150 to Dan Cross on Thu Apr 2 19:42:11 2020
    On 03 Apr 2020, Dan Cross said the following...

    On 31 Mar 2020 at 06:55p, Aaron Thomas pondered and said...

    According to Rush Limbaugh, who you've admitted you
    listen to, it's just the common cold. So what's the
    big deal?

    Rush Limbaugh is an entertainer; why not check him out once in a whil He's not always right, and not all conservatives are following his advice. Rush's commentary is as good as mine.

    Why would I? His "entertainment" is at best puerile and
    immature. At worst, he's actively harmful by spreading
    misinformation.

    Entertainment?
    Entertain this...
    He has donated $3 Million dollars to Tunnel to Towers Foundation.
    with the sale of his Betsy Ross T-Shirts 100% of the proceeds going to the Tunnel to Towers Foundation.
    He has earned his Presidential Metal of Freedom.

    What have you done, next to nothing?

    Again, we see reality sweeping away the facade of the
    right-wing lie factory.

    Keep Sweeping, and missing your target.

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  • From Ron Lauzon@1:275/89 to Aaron Thomas on Fri Apr 3 11:56:00 2020
    Aaron Thomas wrote to Ron Lauzon <=-

    I think CNN was covering a story on koalah bear cubs while senate dems were asking for the removal of wind-turbines in the coronavirus bill.

    Then later in the day they had a headline that read "the president's stalled coronavirus bill finally gets signed into law" like it was the president's fault.

    And some people wonder why CNN ratings are poor (and still falling).

    I've given up on the "news". We don't have news anymore.

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  • From Ron Lauzon@1:275/89 to Gregory Deyss on Fri Apr 3 12:08:00 2020
    Gregory Deyss wrote to Dan Cross <=-

    What have you done, next to nothing?

    That's one of the common things with Lefties: They do nothing.
    They can't create jobs. Most of them can't even do useful jobs. That's why they hate the idea of meritocracy so much.

    They are good at talking, and "protesting" (i.e. holding signs and shouting vapid slogans).

    Personally, I haven't seen a Leftie who's good at much more than generating CO2 for the plants. Oh, wait! CO2 is a greenhouse gas. They are part of the climate change problem!


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  • From Ryan Fantus@1:218/820 to Ron Lauzon on Fri Apr 3 11:56:28 2020
    That's one of the common things with Lefties: They do nothing.
    They can't create jobs. Most of them can't even do useful jobs. That's why they hate the idea of meritocracy so much.

    Is this informed by data or statistics or is this just a lazy generalization? No need to answer, it's a rhetorical questions.

    Personally, I haven't seen a Leftie who's good at much more than generating CO2 for the plants. Oh, wait! CO2 is a greenhouse gas.
    They are part of the climate change problem!

    From the various entertainment industries creating the media you likely consume, to the liberal hardward and software companies making tech products you likely use on a daily basis, yeah, I guess lefties really don't generate anything.

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  • From Dan Cross@3:770/100 to Gregory Deyss on Sat Apr 4 03:17:44 2020
    On 02 Apr 2020 at 07:42p, Gregory Deyss pondered and said...

    Entertainment?

    Aaron's word, no?

    Entertain this...

    Ok, Racist.

    He has donated $3 Million dollars to Tunnel to Towers Foundation.
    with the sale of his Betsy Ross T-Shirts 100% of the proceeds going to the Tunnel to Towers Foundation.

    Ok, boomer. The Clinton foundation has given that many
    times over to charities, but how do you feel about Hillary?
    No wait; don't answer that. I already know and I don't
    care how you feel about her.

    He has earned his Presidential Metal of Freedom.


    If you think that's all it takes to earn the presidential
    medal of freedom (not metal), then you're even more deluded
    than I suspected. He's an actively harmful parasite.

    What have you done, next to nothing?

    Pretty sure I didn't see your dumb ass when I was leading
    Marines in Afghanistan. But what have you done?

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  • From Dan Cross@3:770/100 to Aaron Thomas on Sat Apr 4 03:22:55 2020
    On 03 Apr 2020 at 01:09a, Aaron Thomas pondered and said...

    Trump taken the virus seriously instead of golfing or
    holding rallies, perhaps we could have staved off the

    Trump isn't god. He's doing a job to the best of his ability. Have you noticed that no national leader in the world "staved it off?"

    South Korea, Singapore, hell even China have don't a better
    job than we have.

    We have the highest number of cases in the world and the third
    highest number of deaths. We are failing miserably.

    Have you noticed that Nancy Pelosi cares more about trying to make the president look bad then she does about any sort of legislation?

    Riiiight. How many bills has the house passed that Mitch McConnell
    has refused to bring to a vote on the senate floor? But by all
    means, blame Pelosi.

    Let's create a committee to investigate Trump's handling of the coronavirus instead of doing jack about the coronavirus. Do I sound like one of your heroes now?

    Absolutely he needs oversight. If you're so stupid as to believe
    that handing Donald Trump a check for two _trillion_ dollars with
    no oversight is a good idea, then of course you don't understand constitutionally mandated checks and balances.

    My heroes?

    You guys are so ridiculously unintelligent. You think that because
    I think Trump is a disaster I'm a Democrat, is that it? Haha.
    Your poverty of imagination is amazing, and while it was cute for
    the past three years, now it's just dangerous. You really do think
    that your underinformed opinion is just as good as someone's actual
    expertise?

    You ignorant fools should really step aside and let the professionals,
    experts and adults handle the current emergency.

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:267/150 to Ron Lauzon on Sat Apr 4 00:23:29 2020
    I've given up on the "news". We don't have news anymore.

    Fox & New York Post are cool.

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:267/150 to Dan Cross on Sat Apr 4 00:40:13 2020
    South Korea, Singapore, hell even China have don't a better
    job than we have.

    We're a very liberal nation.

    Riiiight. How many bills has the house passed that Mitch McConnell
    has refused to bring to a vote on the senate floor? But by all
    means, blame Pelosi.

    Ok, Nancy gets a pass. But dems in the senate tried to get windmills reduced in response to the coronavirus. They held all the middle-class families and thousands of businesses as hostages while they tried to fight carbon
    emissions. We think that crap is adorable - just not right now thank you.

    Absolutely he needs oversight. If you're so stupid as to believe
    that handing Donald Trump a check for two _trillion_ dollars with

    There should have been more oversight when Obama & his goons signed the Iran Nuclear Deal. Are we still feeling like it was money well spent?

    But Trump's not asking for money for Iran - he's asking on behalf of the American people & American businesses. That seems to irritate the hell out of Nancy Pelosi, who is unable to grasp the concept of selflessness.

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  • From Nick Andre@1:229/426 to Aaron Thomas on Sat Apr 4 02:01:23 2020
    On 04 Apr 20 00:23:29, Aaron Thomas said the following to Ron Lauzon:

    I've given up on the "news". We don't have news anymore.

    Fox & New York Post are cool.

    I want to like Fox News... I really do. The tabloid format and website layout are appealing to me like the Daily Mail UK or the Toronto Sun. Give me my
    news presented by a smokin-hot reporter with a nice rack. A bit of flash and pizzaz is fine with me. Tabloid formats makes bad news good, good news bad.

    But what stops me from being a true fan is the clickbaity-way Fox News runs stories. Its hard to take them seriously when I see "One weird trick" or
    "Mom's hack does WHAT?". The die-hard Fox fans that take clickbait seriously end up becoming the unfortunate stereotypes liberals like to make examples of.

    I want to cricitise and slam the liberal media like CNN, CBC, MSNBC etc. but its hard for me to do that when Fox and some others play the same clickbaity nonsense for ratings and subscribers as they do.

    If Fox would tone it down a bit, maybe try toning down some of the pro-Trump clickbait (as its getting a bit cartoonish) it would be a bit more appealing especially to conservatives who may not necessarily be Trump fans. Keep the cute reporters and tabloid style. Just tone down the clickbait crap and superheroish way that Trump is presented.

    Nick

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  • From Gerhard Strangar@2:240/2188.575 to Aaron Thomas on Sat Apr 4 09:57:43 2020
    Am 04 Apr 20 00:40:13 schrob Aaron Thomas an Dan Cross zum Thema
    <Re: Biggest Crash Ever!>

    We're a very liberal nation.

    Try to practice your constitutional right of peaceful assembly at the moment.



    Tschoe mit Oe
    Gerhard
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  • From mark lewis@1:3634/12 to Aaron Thomas on Sat Apr 4 07:09:38 2020
    Re: Re: Biggest Crash Ever!
    By: Aaron Thomas to Dan Cross on Sat Apr 04 2020 00:40:13


    South Korea, Singapore, hell even China have don't a better
    job than we have.

    We're a very liberal nation.

    the US is a hell of a lot more conservative than it was 30+ years ago...


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  • From Dan Cross@3:770/100 to Ron Lauzon on Sun Apr 5 06:02:37 2020
    On 03 Apr 2020 at 12:08p, Ron Lauzon pondered and said...

    Gregory Deyss wrote to Dan Cross <=-

    What have you done, next to nothing?

    That's one of the common things with Lefties: They do nothing.
    They can't create jobs. Most of them can't even do useful jobs. That's why they hate the idea of meritocracy so much.

    That's funny. The Boston area, where I live, has an
    unemployment rate a full percentage point lower than
    the national average, plus an amazing concentration
    of research university, biotech and technology firms.

    But hey, Wynnewood Oklahoma had Joe Exotic's tiger
    zoo, so you must be right.

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  • From Dan Cross@3:770/100 to Aaron Thomas on Sun Apr 5 06:06:35 2020
    On 04 Apr 2020 at 12:23a, Aaron Thomas pondered and said...

    Fox & New York Post are cool.

    I agree. A nice, fresh copy of the New York Post is just
    great for wiping one's ass.

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  • From Dan Cross@3:770/100 to Aaron Thomas on Sun Apr 5 06:12:27 2020
    On 04 Apr 2020 at 12:40a, Aaron Thomas pondered and said...

    Ok, Nancy gets a pass. But dems in the senate tried to get windmills reduced in response to the coronavirus. They held all the middle-class families and thousands of businesses as hostages while they tried to
    fight carbon emissions. We think that crap is adorable - just not right now thank you.

    Rep Thomas Massie. Sen Rand Paul. At least the Democrats
    demanded oversight and restrictions from Trump paying himself
    from the stimulus bill.

    Absolutely he needs oversight. If you're so stupid as to believe that handing Donald Trump a check for two _trillion_ dollars with

    There should have been more oversight when Obama & his goons signed the Iran Nuclear Deal. Are we still feeling like it was money well spent?

    But but but...Obama! Whaa! Whaa! I need a safe space
    full of guns and pocket constitutions!

    We didn't actually spent any money on that, of course; we
    just gave Iran back the money we'd frozen from them after
    the revolution.

    But Trump's not asking for money for Iran - he's asking on behalf of the American people & American businesses. That seems to irritate the hell
    out of Nancy Pelosi, who is unable to grasp the concept of selflessness.

    Like Kushner hoarding ventilators from the national
    stockpile because they're "ours" and "not the states",
    despite the purpose of the stockpile being to backfill
    for localities if they run low? And then the web site
    changing?

    Really, you rubes are so dumb.... You can talk all
    this good shit about Pelosi (who, frankly, I don't give
    a shit about) but your own guy is doing worse and you
    ignore that.

    I think it's hilarious how you guys get so bent out of
    shape about the few tens of millions of dollars out of
    two trillion, but don't mention the airlines and cruise
    lines who are getting billions, with a B.

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  • From Gregory Deyss@1:267/150 to Dan Cross on Sat Apr 4 02:11:31 2020
    On 04 Apr 2020, Dan Cross said the following...

    On 02 Apr 2020 at 07:42p, Gregory Deyss pondered and said...

    Entertainment?

    Aaron's word, no?

    Entertain this...

    Ok, Racist.

    Racist? You continue to have delusions concerning who you think I am, just because I think the first black President was continues to be a moron does
    not make me a Racist. Perhaps you should look closer at his historical
    record.

    Ok, boomer. The Clinton foundation has given that many
    times over to charities, but how do you feel about Hillary?
    No wait; don't answer that. I already know and I don't
    care how you feel about her.

    Calling me Boomer, are you expecting some illicit reaction from me, forgetaboutit.

    The only contribution from the Clinton's that I see is the death toll and
    the body-bags that seem to be mounting up around her.

    Pretty sure I didn't see your dumb ass when I was leading
    Marines in Afghanistan. But what have you done?

    I'm shocked, but Thanks for your Service to our Country.

    Was it difficult to be a in the core, and being so dramatically opposed to Conservatives.

    I fail to understand why you're so full of hate, w/ your views are totally ass backwards about me - claiming in several messages that I have negative views about our Nation. Perhaps you have no idea what it means to be a Conservative, or perhaps you are one of one of those Democratic socialists, not really sure, but what I do know you got me all wrong, then again...
    If someone where to ask me if I give crap what you think of me.
    My response would probably be No.

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  • From Gregory Deyss@1:267/150 to Aaron Thomas on Sat Apr 4 02:18:32 2020
    On 04 Apr 2020, Aaron Thomas said the following...

    I've given up on the "news". We don't have news anymore.

    How right you are. The news is a production and has been for many years.
    It is also linked to the hips of the Democratic Party.


    Fox & New York Post are cool.
    Indeed.

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  • From Gregory Deyss@1:267/150 to Aaron Thomas on Sat Apr 4 02:33:59 2020
    On 04 Apr 2020, Aaron Thomas said the following...

    Ok, Nancy gets a pass. But dems in the senate tried to get windmills reduced in response to the coronavirus. They held all the middle-class families and thousands of businesses as hostages while they tried to
    fight carbon emissions. We think that crap is adorable - just not right now thank you.

    Give Nancy a Pass? She deserves a left hook and a right upper cut to the chin, and a boot in the ass.
    She should be hauled off to prison for being a treasonous snake.

    There should have been more oversight when Obama & his goons signed the Iran Nuclear Deal. Are we still feeling like it was money well spent?

    Obama was the Worst President in American History and he will hold that record well into the future.

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  • From Dan Cross@3:770/100 to Gregory Deyss on Sun Apr 5 12:27:18 2020
    On 04 Apr 2020 at 02:11a, Gregory Deyss pondered and said...

    Ok, Racist.

    Racist? You continue to have delusions concerning who you think I am,
    just because I think the first black President was continues to be a
    moron does not make me a Racist. Perhaps you should look closer at his historical record.

    When you were blathering on about how you didn't
    understand his performance, we were patiently rebutted,
    you finally gave up and said, "he was just a black man
    who...." That pretty much spells it out. If you're
    not a racist, why keep bringing up the guy's race?

    Ok, boomer. The Clinton foundation has given that many
    times over to charities, but how do you feel about Hillary?
    No wait; don't answer that. I already know and I don't
    care how you feel about her.

    Calling me Boomer, are you expecting some illicit reaction from me, forgetaboutit.

    Ok, Boomer.

    The only contribution from the Clinton's that I see is the death toll and the body-bags that seem to be mounting up around her.

    https://www.charitywatch.org/charities/clinton-foundation

    But by all means continue telling me about Rush Limbaugh's
    T-shirt sales.

    Pretty sure I didn't see your dumb ass when I was leading
    Marines in Afghanistan. But what have you done?

    I'm shocked, but Thanks for your Service to our Country.

    You want to thank me? Don't vote for idiots.

    Was it difficult to be a in the core, and being so dramatically opposed
    to Conservatives.

    We spell it "Corps". And no, it wasn't hard at all:
    those who actually stand up for their country understand
    that, when we swear to defend our Constitution, we know
    that to include freedom of speech, even if we disagree
    with that speech. It may further shock you to know that
    the military is not uniformly conservative.

    I fail to understand why you're so full of hate, w/ your views are
    totally ass backwards about me - claiming in several messages that I
    have negative views about our Nation. Perhaps you have no idea what it means to be a Conservative, or perhaps you are one of one of those Democratic socialists, not really sure, but what I do know you got me
    all wrong, then again...

    I don't think so. If you continue to support Trump, you
    are anti our nation. If you refuse to acknowledge his
    incompetence and graft similarly.

    But I also know that you aren't really a conservative, but
    rather just a right-winger.

    If someone where to ask me if I give crap what
    you think of me. My response would probably be No.

    Good to go, snuffy.

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  • From Richard Falken@1:103/705 to Dan Cross on Sun Apr 5 02:21:47 2020
    Re: Re: Biggest Crash Ever!
    By: Dan Cross to Aaron Thomas on Fri Apr 03 2020 07:14 am

    I know a lot of economists. They universally agree that
    we are headed for a long recession, if not depression.
    Further, the acuity of unemployment claims underlies the
    truth about Trump's numbers: they were illusory. Under-employed,
    low-wage service sector jobs cut down on the rate, but
    weren't indicators of economic strength or security.

    Hello there,

    I think I am going to say something, because there is a variation of this idea that is popping out every now and then and I think it is open to missinterpretation.

    The core idea that is popping out is that the virus is the trigger for a crisis
    that was brewing already. Now, here is the thing:

    Many countries are shutting down factories and services in order to prevent the
    spread of the infection. That means goods and services stop being available. That is a crisis in itself. When you go to the market and can't buy something you want, this is crisis. Shortages themselves ARE the crisis. Obviously, if your economic foundations were weak, the problem may be aggravated, but saying that the virus triggered the crisis that was already in the making is like saying that taking a nuclear strike was the trigger for a crisis already in the
    making.
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  • From Richard Falken@1:103/705 to mark lewis on Sun Apr 5 02:35:43 2020
    Re: Re: Biggest Crash Ever!
    By: mark lewis to Aaron Thomas on Sat Apr 04 2020 07:09 am

    the US is a hell of a lot more conservative than it was 30+ years ago...

    Because decades ago, blacks didn't have to concede their seats in the bus to whites. Homosexuality was tolerated. And you could play Dungeon And Dragons without having the media demonize you....

    Oh, sorry, I think it is the other way around :-P
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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:221/360 to Dan Cross on Sun Apr 5 17:10:15 2020
    Hello Dan,

    Entertainment?

    Aaron's word, no?

    Let me entertain you ...

    Entertain this...

    Ok, Racist.

    We are all racists and bigots. What we do to overcome our own
    racism and bigotry is up to us. Both as individuals, and as a society.
    And that is a good thing, not a bad thing. Unfortunately, some folks
    never learn. And never want to learn.

    He has donated $3 Million dollars to Tunnel to Towers Foundation.
    with the sale of his Betsy Ross T-Shirts 100% of the proceeds going to >GD>the Tunnel to Towers Foundation.

    Ok, boomer. The Clinton foundation has given that many
    times over to charities, but how do you feel about Hillary?
    No wait; don't answer that. I already know and I don't
    care how you feel about her.

    Now let's play fair.

    President Clinton named Hillary to lead a health care initiative
    and the far right cried "Foul"! Let's see how President Trump does
    by naming Melania to lead a health care initiative ...

    He has earned his Presidential Metal of Freedom.

    If you think that's all it takes to earn the presidential
    medal of freedom (not metal), then you're even more deluded
    than I suspected. He's an actively harmful parasite.

    You do not have a big enough mouth to qualify.

    What have you done, next to nothing?

    Pretty sure I didn't see your dumb ass when I was leading
    Marines in Afghanistan. But what have you done?

    I love playing with train sets. Don't you?

    --Lee

    --
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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:221/360 to Dan Cross on Sun Apr 5 17:10:23 2020
    Hello Dan,

    Fox & New York Post are cool.

    I agree. A nice, fresh copy of the New York Post is just
    great for wiping one's ass.

    Unfortunately, it doesn't flush very well ...

    --Lee

    --
    Often Licked, Never Beaten

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  • From Dan Cross@3:770/100 to Gerhard Strangar on Mon Apr 6 02:20:14 2020
    On 04 Apr 2020 at 09:57a, Gerhard Strangar pondered and said...

    Try to practice your constitutional right of peaceful assembly at the moment.

    This is the thing that haters just don't understand. When
    you live in a society, it's a cooperative thing: the society
    gives you benefits with respect to safety and security, and
    you in turn, give up some of your rights to participate.

    The trick is in finding the balance. Sadly, those who want
    to go eat over at the Red Robbin "because 'Murica!" don't
    understand this.

    It's like when Starucks _asked_ people not to come in with
    guns, and all the nutters showed up like they were ready to
    go into Fallujah. It's not that you can't, it's more like,
    "someone asked you nicely, so why WOULD you?"

    The answer for the right-wing is always the same: to be a
    huge dick.

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:267/150 to Gregory Deyss on Sun Apr 5 13:53:23 2020
    Give Nancy a Pass? She deserves a left hook and a right upper cut to the

    I was reluctant to say that - because yea she is a national disgrace - but it wasn't her who was trying to deal with windmills in the coronavirus bill.

    Obama was the Worst President in American History and he will hold that record well into the future.

    For sure! At least the worst since Eisenhower. I'm still waiting for the "affordable" healthcare that he promised "if ya'll re-elect me."

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:267/150 to Dan Cross on Sun Apr 5 14:14:14 2020
    demanded oversight and restrictions from Trump paying himself
    from the stimulus bill.

    There's absolutely no reason to distrust Trump with the stimulus money. Frustrated idiots like Nancy Pelosi are desperate for a bite - but my fish isn't biting.

    What reason is there to worry about the president stealing from the citizens? I'll answer me own question for ya: In order to make idiots fear it will happen. Nancy's playin games with your head.

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:267/150 to Nick Andre on Sun Apr 5 14:35:19 2020
    Trump fans. Keep the cute reporters and tabloid style. Just tone down
    the clickbait crap and superheroish way that Trump is presented.

    There's just no neutral news outlet though; 98% are liberal-biased and 2% are conservative-biased.

    I do honestly think that Fox is a bit more neutral than the liberal news outlets though. They don't "attack" liberals the way that liberal news
    outlets "attack" Trump & other conservatives.

    Trump gets way more attention than he deserves. I'm sure there are
    conservative (Republican) politicians in the states who are doing evil,
    corrupt things, but instead of even trying to expose them, the liberal media
    is bent on trashing Trump - that's their type of clickbait.

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:267/150 to Lee Lofaso on Sun Apr 5 14:44:19 2020
    We are all racists and bigots. What we do to overcome our own
    racism and bigotry is up to us. Both as individuals, and as a society. And that is a good thing, not a bad thing. Unfortunately, some folks never learn. And never want to learn.

    I agree with you on this statement.

    President Clinton named Hillary to lead a health care initiative
    and the far right cried "Foul"! Let's see how President Trump does
    by naming Melania to lead a health care initiative ...

    But now you lost me. It sounds like you're hoping for Trump and/or Melania to fail. What sense does that make? I didn't hope for Obama to fail - he did it
    on his own!

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  • From Dan Cross@3:770/100 to Aaron Thomas on Mon Apr 6 09:10:12 2020
    On 05 Apr 2020 at 01:53p, Aaron Thomas pondered and said...

    For sure! At least the worst since Eisenhower. I'm still waiting for the "affordable" healthcare that he promised "if ya'll re-elect me."

    Then you should blame the Republicans and right-wingers
    who did everything they possibly could to block the ACA
    and actually make it work for Americans, so that it could
    work for private insurers instead.

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  • From Dan Cross@3:770/100 to Aaron Thomas on Mon Apr 6 09:20:08 2020
    On 05 Apr 2020 at 02:14p, Aaron Thomas pondered and said...

    from the stimulus bill.

    There's absolutely no reason to distrust Trump with the stimulus money. Frustrated idiots like Nancy Pelosi are desperate for a bite - but my
    fish isn't biting.

    What reason is there to worry about the president stealing from the citizens? I'll answer me own question for ya: In order to make idiots
    fear it will happen. Nancy's playin games with your head.

    "And we're prepared, and we're doing a great job with it.
    And it will go away. Just stay calm. It will go away."
    Donald Trump, Mar. 10, 2020

    I wouldn't trust this guy to lead me to a water fountain.

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  • From Ron Lauzon@1:275/89 to Aaron Thomas on Sun Apr 5 11:33:00 2020
    Aaron Thomas wrote to Ron Lauzon <=-

    I've given up on the "news". We don't have news anymore.

    Fox & New York Post are cool.

    But they are still "media" and their focus is on getting eyeballs, not reporting the facts.
    If you remember history class and the era of "yellow journalism" you'll get what I mean.

    Fox and New York Post have used the anti-left focus just to stand out from the crowd (remember that all publicity is good publicity). But I don't trust either of those any more than I trust the Leftie fake news sources.


    ... Multitasking = screwing up several things at once.
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  • From Ron Lauzon@1:275/89 to Aaron Thomas on Sun Apr 5 11:37:00 2020
    Aaron Thomas wrote to Dan Cross <=-

    But Trump's not asking for money for Iran - he's asking on behalf of
    the American people & American businesses. That seems to irritate the
    hell out of Nancy Pelosi, who is unable to grasp the concept of selflessness.

    Personally, I believe that the main reason that Pelosi didn't like the plan was that the money wouldn't have been funneled through Leftie organizations. So that they wouldn't have been able to pick and choose the winners and losers (plus skim some of that money off for themselves).


    ... Always smile. It makes people wonder what you're up to.
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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:221/360 to Aaron Thomas on Mon Apr 6 06:12:22 2020
    Hello Aaron,

    Trump gets way more attention than he deserves.

    I agree. The networks should tune him out and return to
    regular programming immediately.

    --Lee

    --
    As Good As It Looks

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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:221/360 to Aaron Thomas on Mon Apr 6 06:12:38 2020
    Hello Aaron,

    We are all racists and bigots. What we do to overcome our own
    racism and bigotry is up to us. Both as individuals, and as a society. >LL>And that is a good thing, not a bad thing. Unfortunately, some folks >LL>never learn. And never want to learn.

    I agree with you on this statement.

    The opposite would be a world in which nobody can make sound judgements.

    President Clinton named Hillary to lead a health care initiative
    and the far right cried "Foul"! Let's see how President Trump does
    by naming Melania to lead a health care initiative ...

    But now you lost me. It sounds like you're hoping for Trump and/or Melania
    to fail. What sense does that make? I didn't hope for Obama to fail - he
    did it on his own!

    Hillary Clinton was eminently qualified for the position she
    was named by President Bill Clinton. It never came to being due
    to right-wing Republicans claiming it was an outrage, but that
    was then. President Clinton had asked her to act as chair, and
    that was just too much for a handful of small-minded Republicans.

    President Trump just named his criminal son-in-law to be in
    charge of procuring medical supplies for hospitals. Talk about
    grifting on a massive scale.

    No wonder hospitals in New York are having such a hard time
    procuring ventilators for their patients.

    --Lee

    --
    Your Hole Is Our Goal

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:267/150 to Lee Lofaso on Mon Apr 6 01:18:52 2020
    I agree. The networks should tune him out and return to
    regular programming immediately.

    Being uninformed doesn't appeal to me. I want to know everything about the virus that the president knows - not ignore him because I'm jealous of his successes.

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:267/150 to Lee Lofaso on Mon Apr 6 01:28:48 2020
    No wonder hospitals in New York are having such a hard time
    procuring ventilators for their patients.

    New York City has had no trouble procuring ventilators. In fact, the governor ripped all the ventilators from all the upstate hospitals and took them all down to NYC as a precaution to make sure NYC would have enough ventilators.

    I think he said that if we need them back in upstate, he will "think about
    it." But for now, they're all being hoarded in NYC.

    I want the sick people in NYC to get well, but Andrew Cuomo is "procuring" votes by running to NYC's rescue while the whole state needs TLC.

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  • From Gerhard Strangar@2:240/2188.575 to Dan Cross on Mon Apr 6 12:36:55 2020
    Am 06 Apr 20 02:20:14 schrob Dan Cross an Gerhard Strangar zum Thema
    <Re: Biggest Crash Ever!>

    Try to practice your constitutional right of peaceful assembly at
    the moment.
    This is the thing that haters just don't understand. When
    you live in a society, it's a cooperative thing: the society
    gives you benefits with respect to safety and security, and
    you in turn, give up some of your rights to participate.

    How about being treated like an adult and being allowed to do something at your
    own risk? Right now, some states lock up their whole people, because 1 out of 1000 is infected. 999 need to stay at home for no reason. Meaning 99.9% are "guilty unless proven otherwise". And where's the safety if you lose your job and your savings and your kids cannot go to school anymore?
    I grew up in a time when all of what I have to see right now only existed "on the other side" (meaning in the Soviet sector of Germany).

    So far, the everage age of Corona infected people who died in Germany is 81 years, which also happens to be the average life expectancy.




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  • From Nick Andre@1:229/426 to Aaron Thomas on Mon Apr 6 11:17:58 2020
    On 05 Apr 20 14:35:19, Aaron Thomas said the following to Nick Andre:

    Trump gets way more attention than he deserves. I'm sure there are conservative (Republican) politicians in the states who are doing evil, corrupt things, but instead of even trying to expose them, the liberal medi is bent on trashing Trump - that's their type of clickbait.

    I guess I just wish Fox would stop promoting Trump as a wonderful cartoonish superhero who can essentially do no wrong. It is extremely rare (if ever?) that I see an article on Fox that is critical of Trump. Sure its better than most other sites that trash him, but a holier-than-thou image is no better.

    Some liberals see what Fox does and assume that must be how all conservatives feel or believe in.

    Nick

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  • From Dan Cross@3:770/100 to Gerhard Strangar on Tue Apr 7 06:26:53 2020
    On 06 Apr 2020 at 12:36p, Gerhard Strangar pondered and said...

    This is the thing that haters just don't understand. When
    you live in a society, it's a cooperative thing: the society
    gives you benefits with respect to safety and security, and
    you in turn, give up some of your rights to participate.

    How about being treated like an adult and being allowed to do something
    at your own risk?

    That's just the thing of it. It's not just your OWN risk, is the
    risk of the entire community. And when it comes to that, people
    have shown over and over again that they just cannot act like adults.

    Right now, some states lock up their whole people, because 1
    out of 1000 is infected. 999 need to stay at home for no reason. Meaning 99.9% are "guilty unless proven
    I grew up in a time when all of what I have to see right now only
    existed "on the other side" (meaning in the Soviet sector of Germany).

    COVID-19 doesn't care about your political belief system. It
    doesn't care whether you grew up in the DDR or Montana. It
    doesn't care what color your skin is, what god you pray to, or
    who you vote for.

    There are no crimes here; it's a matter of public health and
    safety. This isn't the first time we've done similar things
    in the US, just the first time in living memory.

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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:221/360 to Aaron Thomas on Tue Apr 7 00:39:33 2020
    Hello Aaron,

    I agree. The networks should tune him out and return to
    regular programming immediately.

    Being uninformed doesn't appeal to me. I want to know everything about the >virus that the president knows - not ignore him because I'm jealous of his >successes.

    The president doesn't know anything. He is too busy playing golf.

    --Lee

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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:221/360 to Dan Cross on Tue Apr 7 03:39:15 2020
    Hello Dan,

    This is the thing that haters just don't understand. When
    you live in a society, it's a cooperative thing: the society >GS>DC>gives you benefits with respect to safety and security, and
    you in turn, give up some of your rights to participate.

    How about being treated like an adult and being allowed to do
    something at your own risk?

    That's just the thing of it. It's not just your OWN risk, is the
    risk of the entire community. And when it comes to that, people
    have shown over and over again that they just cannot act like adults.

    Now you are beginning to understand the president's strategy
    on winning a second term. He knows he is behind in every poll,
    including Florida (the latest poll showing him 6% behind Biden).
    So what does he do? He tells everybody he will not wear a mask.
    And I am absolutely certain he is telling the truth.

    It isn't hard to imagine what will happen as a result of his
    adamant refusal to wear a mask. He will catch COVID-19 and get
    really sick. Then he might shut up. While you might think that
    is a good thing, there is a down side. If he caught COVID-19 and
    RECOVERED just think of the implications. He would portray himself
    as Superman. "See I got this beautiful virus, fought it... won."
    His zillions of insane followers will then say it proved he is
    God's chosen and we will all be truly f*cked.

    Yes, my friend. We should all do like Nancy Pelosi says she does
    and pray for him. A lot.

    --Lee

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  • From Gerhard Strangar@2:240/2188.575 to Dan Cross on Tue Apr 7 07:56:57 2020
    Am 07 Apr 20 06:26:53 schrob Dan Cross an Gerhard Strangar zum Thema
    <Re: Biggest Crash Ever!>

    How about being treated like an adult and being allowed to do
    something at your own risk?
    That's just the thing of it. It's not just your OWN risk, is the
    risk of the entire community.

    If everyone needs to stay at home, there are no infections, which means the whole thing just takes longer. Yet still, most of the people will get it. If you allow the healthy people to get it first, they become immune and "the community" might be more lucky.

    COVID-19 doesn't care about your political belief system.

    We don't need to change it, then. :-)



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  • From Ron Lauzon@1:275/89 to Aaron Thomas on Tue Apr 7 10:36:00 2020
    Aaron Thomas wrote to Gregory Deyss <=-

    For sure! At least the worst since Eisenhower. I'm still waiting for
    the "affordable" healthcare that he promised "if ya'll re-elect me."

    Yes, the "Affordable" Care Act. What a joke.
    It was *supposed* to get health care for everyone - including those too poor to get health care.
    What it actually did was make people buy health care. Those who were poor could only afford plans with high deductables, meaning that their health plans would never kick in because they could never hit the deductable. So they ended up paying MORE.

    The Left's programs always have the *opposite* effect than what they say they will.

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  • From Ron Lauzon@1:275/89 to Aaron Thomas on Tue Apr 7 10:48:00 2020
    Aaron Thomas wrote to Lee Lofaso <=-

    But now you lost me. It sounds like you're hoping for Trump and/or
    Melania to fail. What sense does that make? I didn't hope for Obama to fail - he did it on his own!

    That's another big difference between the Left and everyone else.

    Most of us don't want things to fail. I never wanted Obama to fail simply because nobody wins in that scenario.

    But with the Left, it's always "my way, or I'll destroy it" - or that's the way it seems.

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  • From Dan Cross@3:770/100 to Gerhard Strangar on Wed Apr 8 06:22:43 2020
    On 07 Apr 2020 at 07:56a, Gerhard Strangar pondered and said...

    Am 07 Apr 20 06:26:53 schrob Dan Cross an Gerhard Strangar zum Thema <Re: Biggest Crash Ever!>

    That's just the thing of it. It's not just your OWN risk, is the
    risk of the entire community.

    If everyone needs to stay at home, there are no infections, which means the whole thing just takes longer. Yet still, most of the people will
    get it. If you allow the healthy people to get it first, they become immune and "the community" might be more luc

    ...And if we let all these "adults" you speak of just do
    whatever they please (and history has shown that they will)
    then they overload the medical system when they all inevitably
    become sick, which means that a lot of deaths that could have
    been prevented aren't because there aren't enough resources
    to treat them. That's exactly what happened in Italy: the
    death rate hit a major inflection point and got very steep
    once hospitals ran out of capacity.

    And by the way, it's not just capacity to treat COVID patients:
    if the hospitals are overloaded, then they can't treat heart
    attacks, or car accidents, or whatever.

    "Healthy people" die from this, too.

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  • From Dan Cross@3:770/100 to Ron Lauzon on Wed Apr 8 06:27:07 2020
    On 07 Apr 2020 at 10:48a, Ron Lauzon pondered and said...

    That's another big difference between the Left and everyone else.

    Most of us don't want things to fail. I never wanted Obama to fail
    simply because nobody wins in that scenario.

    McConnell made public statements that he felt it was
    his mission to make Obama a one-term president. They
    actively sabotaged any effort to make the ACA actually,
    you know, affordable.

    And if the Right doesn't want things to fail, why
    haven't they brought any of the _hundreds_ of pending
    bills passed by the house up for a vote?

    Don't come at me with that trash. You're lying and
    you know it, but you yokels aren't smart enough to
    know just how transparent your lies are.

    But with the Left, it's always "my way, or I'll destroy it" - or that's the way it seems.

    Why didn't the Senate vote on Merrick Garland's SCOTUS
    nomination?

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  • From Gerhard Strangar@2:240/2188.575 to Dan Cross on Tue Apr 7 22:50:27 2020
    Am 08 Apr 20 06:22:43 schrob Dan Cross an Gerhard Strangar zum Thema
    <Re: Biggest Crash Ever!>

    "Healthy people" die from this, too.

    Can you show me one case?



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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:267/150 to Ron Lauzon on Tue Apr 7 19:22:17 2020
    It was *supposed* to get health care for everyone - including those too poor to get health care.

    I ended up needing to see a doctor urgently when Obama was "re-assuring" me about "affordable" health insurance. Then my employer offered me a plan that would cost about half my pay - so I turned it down & went without health insurance, then paid Obama's "sock-it to the poor tax" when I filed my tax return.

    President Barrack Obama <- Friend to the black community? I think not!

    The Left's programs always have the *opposite* effect than what they say they will.

    Sometimes there are really smart people getting tricked by Democrats. I feel bad for them getting tricked, but I think they're too distracted by their problems to realize they're being manipulated & degraded.

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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:221/360 to Gerhard Strangar on Wed Apr 8 23:33:39 2020
    Hello Gerhard,

    If everyone needs to stay at home, there are no infections, which means the
    whole thing just takes longer. Yet still, most of the people will get it.
    If you allow the healthy people to get it first, they become immune and
    "the community" might be more lucky.

    The British started going down this road, but wisely chose to back
    off after they had thought it through. Why? Because the end result
    would be the entire country shutting down, for an indefinite period
    of time. Of which it might never recover.

    OTOH, think about the fact that as a species humans carry four
    different coronaviruses, none of which we have a vaccine for. The
    novel coronavirus that has emerged may become a fifth.

    While this is not an extinction level event, many untold millions
    of people may die. Perhaps even billions. Call it a culling of the
    herd, if you like. And perhaps that is nature's way of dealing with
    the problem of climate change, or whatever else ails the planet.

    COVID-19 doesn't care about your political belief system.

    We don't need to change it, then. :-)

    If a real crisis develops, will the Germans call for a new f–hrer?
    Will the Mafia return to its former days of glory and rule Italy?
    The more things change, the more things stay the same.

    --Lee

    --
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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:221/360 to Gerhard Strangar on Wed Apr 8 23:33:52 2020
    Hello Gerhard,

    "Healthy people" die from this, too.

    Can you show me one case?

    Sorry. I cannot show you any "Healthy people" who are dead.
    I cannot even show you any people who are dead, due to the lockdown
    everybody is under. Funeral homes are going to have a heck of a
    time holding those bodies until a proper funeral can be held. And
    just think of all the living people who are going to be needed to
    dig the graves to put them in ...

    --Lee

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  • From Dan Cross@3:770/100 to Gerhard Strangar on Thu Apr 9 09:41:37 2020
    On 07 Apr 2020 at 10:50p, Gerhard Strangar pondered and said...

    Am 08 Apr 20 06:22:43 schrob Dan Cross an Gerhard Strangar zum Thema <Re: Biggest Crash Ever!>

    "Healthy people" die from this, too.

    Can you show me one case?

    A simple Google search turns up: https://nypost.com/2020/03/25/21-year-old-woman-with-no-underlying-health-condi tions-dies-of-coronavirus/

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  • From Gerhard Strangar@2:240/2188.575 to Dan Cross on Thu Apr 9 08:28:16 2020
    Am 09 Apr 20 09:41:37 schrob Dan Cross an Gerhard Strangar zum Thema
    <Re: Biggest Crash Ever!>

    A simple Google search turns up: https://nypost.com/2020/03/25/21-year-old-woman-with-no-underlyin g-health-conditions-dies-of-coronavirus/

    https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-beds-bucks-herts-52124004

    "But the BBC understands she was not tested for the disease while in hospital."


    https://www.spiked-online.com/2020/03/27/chloe-middleton-the-coronavirus-death-that-wasnt/

    Linked to an article where The Guardian stated that her death Certificate does not mention Covid-19. Now it states "Since the article was published, statistics were this week released by the Office for National Statistics, which
    include all deaths where Covid-19 was mentioned on a death certificate, whereas
    previous government figures counted only those deaths where the patient had a positive test result."
    Which sounds like "she died from Covid-19, but was never tested positive for it".

    Do you know a less suspicious case?



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  • From Ron Lauzon@1:275/89 to Aaron Thomas on Thu Apr 9 09:21:00 2020
    Aaron Thomas wrote to Ron Lauzon <=-

    Sometimes there are really smart people getting tricked by Democrats. I feel bad for them getting tricked, but I think they're too distracted
    by their problems to realize they're being manipulated & degraded.

    There's "smart" and there's "wise".

    I've met many smart people in my day and, in their area of expertise, they are very intelligent.

    The problem is that many of these smart people are in a bubble of other people wo constantly tell them that they are smart in all areas and they end up thinking that if they are an expert in Particle Physics, that they are also an expert in something much simpler - like Economics or Politics.

    Sort of the different between "outstanding in their field" and "out, standing in their field" (i.e. scarecrow).


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  • From Ron Lauzon@1:275/89 to Gerhard Strangar on Thu Apr 9 09:24:00 2020
    Gerhard Strangar wrote to Dan Cross <=-

    "Healthy people" die from this, too.

    Can you show me one case?

    There have been too many, unfortunately, but not for the reasons you might think.

    We've been uncovering evidence that they have been overreporting COVID-19 deaths.

    So, if you were in a car accident and died from those injuries, but before that, they found that you had COVID-19, you would be classified as a COVID-19 death. Even though COVID-19 had nothing to do with it.

    We are seeing a sharp drop in many other causes of death while the stats for COVID-19 go up. That smells fishy right there.

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  • From Dan Cross@3:770/100 to Gerhard Strangar on Fri Apr 10 03:49:34 2020
    On 09 Apr 2020 at 08:28a, Gerhard Strangar pondered and said...

    Which sounds like "she died from Covid-19, but was never tested positive for it".

    Nope.

    Do you know a less suspicious case?

    I know of a lot of such cases. https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2020/04/08/young-people-coronavirus-death s/

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  • From Gerhard Strangar@2:240/2188.575 to Dan Cross on Thu Apr 9 21:47:46 2020
    Am 10 Apr 20 03:49:34 schrob Dan Cross an Gerhard Strangar zum Thema
    <Re: Biggest Crash Ever!>

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2020/04/08/young-people-cor onavirus-deaths/

    All I can see there is "Private browsing is permitted exclusively for our subscribers. Turn off private browsing to keep reading this story, or subscribe
    to use this feature, plus get unlimited digital access."



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  • From Richard Falken@1:103/705 to Gerhard Strangar on Fri Apr 10 07:00:21 2020
    Re: Re: Biggest Crash Ever!
    By: Gerhard Strangar to Dan Cross on Tue Apr 07 2020 10:50 pm

    "Healthy people" die from this, too.

    Can you show me one case?

    I have ties with the Spanish health system. The virus is not a joke.

    If you get exposed to a virus charge high enough you can have a severe version of the disease. It looks like (but afaik it is not officially confirmed) that the size of the virus charge you get has a severe effect on the outcome. That is, if you plunge yourself into an environemnt where everybody is infected, you
    will get more and more and more virus into your organism and it may reach a point in which your organism cannot manage it.

    We have had enough cases in Spain from army people (you know, those who don't serve unless they pass a health check) dying to this thing. It is not likely. But it can happen.

    That said, the damage of lockdowns is not a joke either. One of my contacts was
    a grandpa and had a leak in his roof, and nobody would go to his house and fix it because of the lockdown. So he climbed up to the roof, slipped down and crashed his brains against the pavement.
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  • From Dan Cross@3:770/100 to Gerhard Strangar on Sat Apr 11 09:48:48 2020
    On 09 Apr 2020 at 09:47p, Gerhard Strangar pondered and said...

    Am 10 Apr 20 03:49:34 schrob Dan Cross an Gerhard Strangar zum Thema <Re: Biggest Crash Ever!>

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2020/04/08/young-people-cor onavirus-deaths/

    All I can see there is "Private browsing is permitted exclusively for
    our subscribers. Turn off private browsing to keep reading this story,
    or subscribe

    to use this feature, plus get unlimited digital access."

    Dunno what to tell you, dude. Basically all medical
    professionals who have treated COVID-19 patients are
    unanimous in agreeing that it has and continues to
    kill younger, seemingly otherwise healthy people with
    no comorbidities. If you don't want to believe that,
    that's on you, but you're going against the medical
    and scientific consensus as well as actual evidence.

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  • From Gerhard Strangar@2:240/2188.575 to Dan Cross on Sat Apr 11 07:49:26 2020
    Am 11 Apr 20 09:48:48 schrob Dan Cross an Gerhard Strangar zum Thema
    <Re: Biggest Crash Ever!>

    Dunno what to tell you, dude. Basically all medical
    professionals who have treated COVID-19 patients are
    unanimous in agreeing that it has and continues to
    kill younger, seemingly otherwise healthy people with
    no comorbidities. If you don't want to believe that,
    that's on you, but you're going against the medical
    and scientific consensus as well as actual evidence.

    Now you changed it from healthy to "seemingly healthy", which is a whole different thing. To get some "actual evidence", we need autopsies on those "seemingly healthy" persons.



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  • From Ron Lauzon@1:275/89 to Richard Falken on Sat Apr 11 10:32:00 2020
    Richard Falken wrote to Gerhard Strangar <=-

    I have ties with the Spanish health system. The virus is not a joke.

    If you get exposed to a virus charge high enough you can have a severe version of the disease. It looks like (but afaik it is not officially confirmed) that the size of the virus charge you get has a severe
    effect on the outcome. That is, if you plunge yourself into an
    environemnt where everybody is infected, you will get more and more and more virus into your organism and it may reach a point in which your organism cannot manage it.

    Actually, they've linked it to basic health.

    So, if you have a population that engages in unhealthy activities (i.e. smoking, poor diet), that population will have a higher instance and fewer people who are immune (get enough of those and the virus will not spread). They also found that pollution plays a part, along with age (since older people have weakened immune systems).

    Take Italy as an example. High percentage of life-long smokers combined with an older population and you get a higher mortality rate.

    Here in the U.S. they are saying that COVID-19 is impacting the black community harder. But the black community has a higher instance of smoking and poor diet (diabetes is often a problem - and that weakens your immune system).

    Again, in the U.S., if you look at the "heat map" of the cases you'll see that the cluster around the cities - where people are often poorer, which means that they are less healthy.

    According to what I've read so far, most of us will get it. But the vast majority won't even know that they had it.

    We have had enough cases in Spain from army people (you know, those who don't serve unless they pass a health check) dying to this thing. It is not likely. But it can happen.

    I've met many people who seem very healthy, but eat a poor diet, smoke, etc. Just because they pass a health check when they enlist doesn't mean that they are healthy.

    That said, the damage of lockdowns is not a joke either. One of my contacts was a grandpa and had a leak in his roof, and nobody would go
    to his house and fix it because of the lockdown. So he climbed up to
    the roof, slipped down and crashed his brains against the pavement.

    The "experts" in gov't never think of the collateral damage of their decisions.


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  • From Gerhard Strangar@2:240/2188.575 to Dan Cross on Sat Apr 11 18:12:14 2020
    Am 11 Apr 20 09:48:48 schrob Dan Cross an Gerhard Strangar zum Thema
    <Re: Biggest Crash Ever!>

    Dunno what to tell you, dude. Basically all medical
    professionals who have treated COVID-19 patients are
    unanimous in agreeing that it has and continues to
    kill younger, seemingly otherwise healthy people with
    no comorbidities.

    Here's some diagrams of different European countries:

    https://www.euromomo.eu/outputs/zscore_country0.html
    no increase in mortality age 0-4

    https://www.euromomo.eu/outputs/zscore_country5.html
    no increase in mortality age 5-14

    https://www.euromomo.eu/outputs/zscore_country15.html
    (in increased number in age 15-64, but aprat from England it's lower than the influenza peaks)

    https://www.euromomo.eu/outputs/zscore_country65.html
    This is where the peaks are: age 65+



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  • From Dan Cross@3:770/100 to Gerhard Strangar on Mon Apr 13 02:36:57 2020
    On 11 Apr 2020 at 07:49a, Gerhard Strangar pondered and said...

    Am 11 Apr 20 09:48:48 schrob Dan Cross an Gerhard Strangar zum Thema <Re: Biggest Crash Ever!>

    Dunno what to tell you, dude. Basically all medical
    professionals who have treated COVID-19 patients are
    unanimous in agreeing that it has and continues to
    kill younger, seemingly otherwise healthy people with
    no comorbidities. If you don't want to believe that,
    that's on you, but you're going against the medical
    and scientific consensus as well as actual evidence.

    Now you changed it from healthy to "seemingly healthy", which is a whole different thing. To get some "actual evidence", we need autopsies on
    those "seemingly healthy" persons.

    Ok, they were "otherwise healthy" then. No need
    to hedge on the nomenclature: This virus kills
    young, healthy people who would not have otherwise
    died. Full stop.

    I think you're trying to prove some kind of point,
    but I have no idea what that is and whatever it is,
    it's not backed up by actual evidence. I think
    you are resistant to evidence falsifying your
    position. It's not a good look.

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  • From Dan Cross@3:770/100 to Gerhard Strangar on Mon Apr 13 04:15:53 2020
    On 11 Apr 2020 at 06:12p, Gerhard Strangar pondered and said...

    Dunno what to tell you, dude. Basically all medical
    professionals who have treated COVID-19 patients are
    unanimous in agreeing that it has and continues to
    kill younger, seemingly otherwise healthy people with
    no comorbidities.

    Here's some diagrams of different European countries:

    Your earlier statement, and the main point where
    I disagreed with you, is that the virus doesn't
    affect younger people. You asked to see a single
    case where it did.

    It is known that it affects older people much more
    than younger people. That's accepted and not
    terribly interesting information. However, this
    virus has, does, and will continue to kill younger
    people to.

    Attempting to move the goal posts doesn't work.

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  • From Gerhard Strangar@2:240/2188.575 to Dan Cross on Sun Apr 12 18:45:09 2020
    Am 13 Apr 20 02:36:57 schrob Dan Cross an Gerhard Strangar zum Thema
    <Re: Biggest Crash Ever!>

    Now you changed it from healthy to "seemingly healthy", which is a
    whole different thing. To get some "actual evidence", we need
    autopsies on those "seemingly healthy" persons.
    Ok, they were "otherwise healthy" then. No need
    to hedge on the nomenclature: This virus kills
    young, healthy people who would not have otherwise
    died. Full stop.

    I'm saying that we don't know that.

    I think you're trying to prove some kind of point,
    but I have no idea what that is and whatever it is,
    it's not backed up by actual evidence.

    Not having evidence is excatly my point. You stated that young and healthy people died from Covid-19. The example you gave me was a girl and the "actual evidence" for her being healthy was her mother saying so. I don't accept this as a scientifically correct medical diagnosis. And apparently neither do others, because they are buying SARS-Cov-19 tests instead of just asking people's mothers or this woman or whatever the superstition behind this is supposed to be. You can be infected with something without feeling sick, you can ever have cancer all over your body without noticing it.
    As long as there are no autopsies, noone can tell if they were healthy before they got Covid-19.



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  • From Gerhard Strangar@2:240/2188.575 to Dan Cross on Sun Apr 12 19:15:10 2020
    Am 13 Apr 20 04:15:53 schrob Dan Cross an Gerhard Strangar zum Thema
    <Re: Biggest Crash Ever!>

    Here's some diagrams of different European countries:
    Your earlier statement, and the main point where
    I disagreed with you, is that the virus doesn't
    affect younger people.

    Actually it was about killing young and healthy people. It does of course affect them by infecting them.

    You asked to see a single case where it did.

    It did indeed affect a "younger" person. However, there's no data about her health status.

    It is known that it affects older people much more
    than younger people. That's accepted and not
    terribly interesting information. However, this
    virus has, does, and will continue to kill younger
    people to.

    Of course it does, but obviously there's no increase in mortality. Which means,
    if they had't died from this virus, it would have been another one or some bacteria resistant to antibiotics. 2600 people die in Germany every day, that's
    life. And that's even more than all the deaths being counted as Covid-19 related. About 100 every year get run over by a truck and noone cares. When a terrorist kills another 3, everyone is going crazy. If noone had named this new
    virus, it would have been just another flu season. It's like SARS-Cov-19 affects people's minds even before they get infected.



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  • From Richard Falken@1:103/705 to Ron Lauzon on Mon Apr 13 06:42:41 2020
    Re: Re: Biggest Crash Ever!
    By: Ron Lauzon to Richard Falken on Sat Apr 11 2020 10:32 am

    So, if you have a population that engages in unhealthy activities (i.e. smoking, poor diet), that population will have a higher instance and fewer people who are immune (get enough of those and the virus will not spread). They also found that pollution plays a part, along with age (since older people have weakened immune systems).

    I guess that explains why Spain is doing soo porly among other things...

    The survival rate of people who gets mechanical ventilation in this area is piss poor when compared to every other area closeby.

    Probably too much alcohol and Spanish-party-hard.
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  • From Dan Cross@3:770/100 to Gerhard Strangar on Tue Apr 14 03:15:41 2020
    On 12 Apr 2020 at 06:45p, Gerhard Strangar pondered and said...

    Ok, they were "otherwise healthy" then. No need
    to hedge on the nomenclature: This virus kills
    young, healthy people who would not have otherwise
    died. Full stop.

    I'm saying that we don't know that.

    We do.

    Not having evidence is excatly my point. You stated that young and
    healthy people died from Covid-19. The example you gave me was a girl
    and the "actual evidence" for her being healthy was her mother saying
    so. I don't accept this as a scientifically corr
    As long as there are no autopsies, noone can tell if they were healthy before they got Covid-19.

    There's plenty of evidence if you choose to look.

    Empirically, we have a number of doctors and other
    frontline healthcare workers reporting it as a matter
    of fact. You can choose not to believe them, but
    facts don't care what you believe and you would just
    be wrong.

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  • From Dan Cross@3:770/100 to Gerhard Strangar on Tue Apr 14 03:16:27 2020
    On 12 Apr 2020 at 07:15p, Gerhard Strangar pondered and said...

    Your earlier statement, and the main point where
    I disagreed with you, is that the virus doesn't
    affect younger people.

    Actually it was about killing young and healthy people. It does of
    course affect them by infecting them.

    It does kill them. This is documented fact.

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  • From Ron Lauzon@1:275/89 to Gerhard Strangar on Mon Apr 13 12:51:00 2020
    Gerhard Strangar wrote to Dan Cross <=-

    Now you changed it from healthy to "seemingly healthy", which is a
    whole different thing. To get some "actual evidence", we need autopsies
    on those "seemingly healthy" persons.

    Based on what I've been reading lately, many of the "seemingly healthy" were grossly overweight and that it seemed to be a pretty good marker for getting hit bad by the virus.

    It's actually looking like we have a good reason to stop eating junk food and exercise.

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  • From Gerhard Strangar@2:240/2188.575 to Dan Cross on Mon Apr 13 17:42:25 2020
    Am 14 Apr 20 03:15:41 schrob Dan Cross an Gerhard Strangar zum Thema
    <Re: Biggest Crash Ever!>

    As long as there are no autopsies, noone can tell if they were
    healthy before they got Covid-19.
    There's plenty of evidence if you choose to look.
    Empirically, we have a number of doctors and other
    frontline healthcare workers reporting it as a matter
    of fact.

    Do they use a glass orb? These people get in contact with people suffering from
    symptoms of Covid-19. Noone is running checks for any other diseases. The're asking for *known* health issues and prescribed medication. Just because you are not on medication and don't know of any health problems does not mean you don't have any.




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  • From Gerhard Strangar@2:240/2188.575 to Dan Cross on Mon Apr 13 17:44:54 2020
    Am 14 Apr 20 03:16:27 schrob Dan Cross an Gerhard Strangar zum Thema
    <Re: Biggest Crash Ever!>

    Your earlier statement, and the main point where
    I disagreed with you, is that the virus doesn't
    affect younger people.
    Actually it was about killing young and healthy people. It does of
    course affect them by infecting them.
    It does kill them. This is documented fact.

    Show me documents, then. And no, someone's mom stating "my daughter was healthy" is not a fact, that's an assumption.



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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:221/360 to Ron Lauzon on Tue Apr 14 20:37:13 2020
    Hello Ron,

    Now you changed it from healthy to "seemingly healthy", which is a >GS>whole different thing. To get some "actual evidence", we need autopsies >GS>on those "seemingly healthy" persons.

    Based on what I've been reading lately, many of the "seemingly healthy" were
    grossly overweight and that it seemed to be a pretty good marker for
    getting hit bad by the virus.

    Pink and her son are not grossly overweight. Both survived.
    That does not mean that others their age also survived, regardless
    of how much they weighed.

    What is being claimed is 90% of those who have died of COVID-19
    had underlying health issues. The other 10% includes those who seem
    to have been healthy, without having any underlying health issues.

    It's actually looking like we have a good reason to stop eating junk food
    and exercise.

    Processed food is not the healthiest choice, but sometimes all
    that can be found. There is also lots of danger in buying products
    at grocery stores due to others contanimating products or by close
    contact.

    Online shopping for food is coming to a close, as too many shoppers
    have been going that route. So now all that is left is to endanger
    yourself by shopping in person.

    Meanwhile, grocery cashiers are quitting in droves as more and more
    are getting sick. And also grocery stockers and other workers.

    I wonder what happens when all the food runs out? Or if not enough
    people can be found to put food on the table?

    --Lee

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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:221/360 to Gerhard Strangar on Wed Apr 15 19:26:28 2020
    Hello Gerhard,

    Your earlier statement, and the main point where
    I disagreed with you, is that the virus doesn't
    affect younger people.

    Actually it was about killing young and healthy people. It does of >GS>>course affect them by infecting them.

    It does kill them. This is documented fact.

    Show me documents, then. And no, someone's mom stating "my daughter was
    healthy" is not a fact, that's an assumption.

    Time to wise up about those daily COVID-19 fatality reports.
    What has Dan so confused is they don't represent the number
    of people it has killed. They represent the number of death
    certificates listing it as a cause. Those two things are
    most definitely not the same.

    Here is a recent example -

    Ellis Marsalis, age 85, was a jazz pianist from New Orleans
    who passed away last week after contracting COVID-19. What
    killed him was pneumonia, not COVID-19.

    Health care professionals have publicly stated that some 90%
    of all COVID-19 deaths had underlying causes, such as obesity,
    diabetes, pneumonia, etc. I am sure many of the other 10%
    can be attributed to undiagnosed causes.

    Two-thirds of the population of the USA is obese. Half of
    them have been diagnosed as being diabetic or pre-diabetic.
    How many of the remaining half have even been tested?

    Over 100 million Americans have been prescribed statin drugs
    by doctors. These statin drugs lower cholesterol levels.
    Healthy cholesterol levels protect the body from harm, while
    low cholesterol levels allow dangerous agents such as COVID-19
    to do their thing.

    Statin drugs have been proven to make patients fully diabetic
    within six months. Low cholesterol levels plus diabetes = disaster.
    Especially when COVID-19 enters the picture.

    Many of those who have died of COVID-19 had low zinc levels.
    So. If you want to stay alive, do as Dr. Trump says by taking
    zinc vitamins. Better to lose your sense of taste and smell
    than everything else.

    Raw oysters - best source of zinc there is. Slurp up.

    --Lee

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  • From Dan Cross@3:770/100 to Gerhard Strangar on Fri Apr 17 03:57:32 2020
    On 13 Apr 2020 at 05:42p, Gerhard Strangar pondered and said...

    Do they use a glass orb?

    No, they use their medical training and experience.

    Please remind me: where did you go to medical school?

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  • From Gerhard Strangar@2:240/2188.575 to Dan Cross on Fri Apr 17 09:28:16 2020
    Am 17 Apr 20 03:57:32 schrob Dan Cross an Gerhard Strangar zum Thema
    <Re: Biggest Crash Ever!>

    Do they use a glass orb?
    No, they use their medical training and experience.

    This variant of the Corona virus is new, there's no training or experience on whether the symptoms being shown are due to SARS-Cov-19 only or if they emerge in combination with somthing else. You can't go to the library and get some books about SARS-Cov-19 or Covid-19, it's not even in the ICD-10. Patients are currently being marked as U07 - U for unknown.

    Please remind me: where did you go to medical school?

    What we are talking right now is actually a mathematical problem. There are over 2000 categories in the 22 chapters of ICD-10. To diagnose someone as healthy, you'd have to be sure the patient does not fit into _any_ of the categories, meaning you'd have to test _all_ of them. This is not being done.

    Moreover, noone is an expert on all of the chapters, a GP will never diagnose you as healthy. An ophthalmologist will never diagnose healthy lungs and I'm sure you'd be more than suspicious if the pulmonologist wanted to palpate your prostate gland - even if you did not go to medical school.

    If an ambulance takes you to hospital because you can't breathe, noone is testing you for, let's say, hypothyroidism. Now why whould they classify you as
    being "otherwise healthy"?



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  • From Dan Cross@3:770/100 to Gerhard Strangar on Sat Apr 18 03:51:28 2020
    On 17 Apr 2020 at 09:28a, Gerhard Strangar pondered and said...

    Am 17 Apr 20 03:57:32 schrob Dan Cross an Gerhard Strangar zum Thema <Re: Biggest Crash Ever!>
    Do they use a glass orb?
    No, they use their medical training and experience.

    This variant of the Corona virus is new, there's no training or
    experience on whether the symptoms being shown are due to SARS-Cov-19
    only or if they emerge in combination with somthing else. You can't go
    to the library and get some books about SARS-Cov-19 or Covid-19, it's
    not even in the ICD-10. Patients are currently being marked as U07 - U
    for unknown.

    That doesn't mean that the basic tenants of diagnosis,
    medical research, or use of the scientific method can't
    be applied to COVID-19. Lots of articles are appearing
    in the research literature about it as epidemiologists
    and academic medicine study it. The genome has been
    published.

    Please remind me: where did you go to medical school?

    What we are talking right now is actually a mathematical problem. There are over 2000 categories in the 22 chapters of ICD-10. To diagnose
    someone as healthy, you'd have to be sure the patient does not fit into _any_ of the categories, meaning you'd have to test _all_ of them. This
    is not being done.

    I think you're really reaching to try and support your
    unsupportable position that COVID-19 hasn't killed anyone
    who was young and otherwise healthy.

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  • From Gerhard Strangar@2:240/2188.575 to Dan Cross on Sat Apr 18 08:22:19 2020
    Am 18 Apr 20 03:51:28 schrob Dan Cross an Gerhard Strangar zum Thema
    <Re: Biggest Crash Ever!>

    I think you're really reaching to try and support your
    unsupportable position that COVID-19 hasn't killed anyone
    who was young and otherwise healthy.

    Here's some other numbers:

    Country population Mortality of those
    tested tested positive

    France 0.51% 12.8%
    Germany 2.09% 2.8%
    Iceland 10.27% 0.5%

    Which could extrapolate to
    50.00% 0.1%
    100.00% 0.05%

    That would sum up to just as many victims as in the flu season of 2017/2018.



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  • From Dan Cross@3:770/100 to Gerhard Strangar on Sun Apr 19 08:59:25 2020
    On 18 Apr 2020 at 08:22a, Gerhard Strangar pondered and said...

    Here's some other numbers:

    Ignored, because you clearly don't understand the basic
    science. Mortality rate is a localized metric because
    it depends so heavily on the local healthcare's system
    in terms of capacity and quality.

    The one kernel of truth here is that it's true that we
    don't know the true denominator.

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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:221/360 to Gerhard Strangar on Sun Apr 19 02:26:07 2020
    Hello Gerhard,

    I think you're really reaching to try and support your
    unsupportable position that COVID-19 hasn't killed anyone
    who was young and otherwise healthy.

    Here's some other numbers:

    Country population Mortality of those
    tested tested positive

    France 0.51% 12.8%
    Germany 2.09% 2.8%
    Iceland 10.27% 0.5%

    Which could extrapolate to
    50.00% 0.1%
    100.00% 0.05%

    That would sum up to just as many victims as in the flu season of 2017/2018.

    The director of WHO says the coronavirus is 10x more contagious
    than the seasonal flu. That is an understatement, as evidence shows
    it to be up to 50x more contagious than the seasonal flu.

    But I am not going to quibble about the numbers, or about who
    is right about what.

    During the 2018-19 flu season, about 35 million people in the USA
    contracted flu and about 34,000 died. That is about 1 ouf of 1,000.
    Or about 0.01% - as claimed by the CDC.

    Broken down by age groups -
    Children 1 out of 10,000
    Adult age 50-64 6 out of 10,000
    Adult age 65+ 83 out of 10,000

    About 10% of US COVID-19 patients over age 85 have died.

    Both groups (flu and COVID-19) most fatal in people over 65 years.

    Coronavirus is 5x to 10x more deadly than the flu for those between
    the ages of 0 and 45.

    Coronavirus is 12.5x more deadly than the flu for those over age 85.

    Overall, the coronavirus is 4.7x more deadly than the seasonal flu.

    Global -
    0.1% of people who get the seasonal flu die
    4.7% of people who get COVID-19 die

    Broken down by country the numbers of deaths due to COVID-19
    will differ. That is why there is wide disparagy between some countries/regions.

    Let's look at Spanish Flu -

    Beginning of pandemic March 1918
    Global cases 500 million
    Global deaths 50 million (675,000 in USA)
    Transmission Respiratory droplets
    Most affected age 20-40
    Treatments None
    Vaccines None
    End of pandemic Summer 1919

    Let's look at seasonal flu -

    Global cases 9% of population (1 billion, 5 million severe)
    Global deaths between 291,000 and 646,000 (death rate ~0.1%) Transmission Respiratory droplets
    Most affected Older adults
    Treatments antiviral medications
    Vaccines many
    End of pandemic seasonal

    One-third of the world population was infected by the Spanish Flu.
    Over 50 million people died as a result of having been infected.
    How many people do you think will become infected, and die, as a
    result of COVID-19?

    That is a number too high for me to even contemplate.
    I find that number too high as it is. But it is the reality
    we live in. So we must deal with it, or learn how, the best
    way we can.

    --Lee

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  • From TIM RICHARDSON@1:123/140 to GERHARD STRANGAR on Sat Apr 18 16:41:00 2020
    On 04-10-20, DAN CROSS said to GERHARD STRANGAR:

    On 09 Apr 2020 at 08:28a, Gerhard Strangar pondered and said...

    Which sounds like "she died from Covid-19, but was never tested positive for it".

    Nope.

    Do you know a less suspicious case?

    I know of a lot of such cases. DC>https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2020/04/08/young-people-coronavirus- DC>eath s/



    The `Washington Post' part of that web site should say it all.


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  • From Gerhard Strangar@2:240/2188.575 to Lee Lofaso on Sun Apr 19 08:07:32 2020
    Am 19 Apr 20 02:26:07 schrob Lee Lofaso an Gerhard Strangar zum Thema <Biggest Crash Ever!>

    Let's look at Spanish Flu -
    Beginning of pandemic March 1918
    Global cases 500 million
    Global deaths 50 million (675,000 in USA)
    [...]
    Let's look at seasonal flu -
    Global cases 9% of population (1 billion, 5 million severe)
    Global deaths between 291,000 and 646,000 (death rate ~0.1%)
    [...]
    End of pandemic seasonal

    Well, actually there is nor real end, it keeps coming back every year, which means you could as well see it this way:

    Spanish Flu infected 500 million people and killed 50 million within the last 100 years. (actually 102, but let's keep the numbers simple)
    Seasonal Flu infected 36 billion people (100 times 9% out of a linearized average of 4 billions), that would be 36 million deaths at a constant death rate of 0.1%.
    There's quite a high uncertainty in all of thouse numbers, though.

    One-third of the world population was infected by the Spanish Flu.
    Over 50 million people died as a result of having been infected.
    How many people do you think will become infected, and die, as a
    result of COVID-19?

    Now that's wild guessing, but we might see up to 80% infected, which would be 6
    billion people. And it looks like the number of people dying with it is going to be somewhere between 3 million and 240 million people.
    But there are going to be new variants in the future. Wen can "flatten the curve" one time and make it last longer, however, people might then get SARS-Cov-19 and a future SARS-Cov-20 at the same time. What are we going to do then, shut down the economy "twice as much"?



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  • From Gregory Deyss@1:267/150 to Lee Lofaso on Sun Apr 19 07:05:45 2020
    On 19 Apr 2020, Lee Lofaso said the following...

    Hello Gerhard,

    I think you're really reaching to try and support your >DC>unsupportable position that COVID-19 hasn't killed anyone
    who was young and otherwise healthy.

    Here's some other numbers:

    Country population Mortality of those
    tested tested positive

    France 0.51% 12.8%
    Germany 2.09% 2.8%
    Iceland 10.27% 0.5%

    Which could extrapolate to
    50.00% 0.1%
    100.00% 0.05%

    That would sum up to just as many victims as in the flu season of 2017/20

    The director of WHO says the coronavirus is 10x more contagious
    than the seasonal flu. That is an understatement, as evidence shows
    it to be up to 50x more contagious than the seasonal flu.

    The director of WHO has some explaining to do, the United States, not china
    has contributed majority of it's funding, so explain why are they listening or influenced by a communist country who wants to hold the truth.

    It is the correct move to cut it's funding, until a investigation can be concluded.

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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:221/360 to Gregory Deyss on Mon Apr 20 01:28:16 2020
    Hello Greg,

    [..]

    The director of WHO says the coronavirus is 10x more contagious
    than the seasonal flu. That is an understatement, as evidence shows
    it to be up to 50x more contagious than the seasonal flu.

    The director of WHO has some explaining to do, the United States, not china
    has contributed majority of it's funding, so explain why are they listening or influenced by a communist country who wants to hold the truth.

    The truth?

    "The coronavirus is very much under control in the USA."
    ~ Donald J. Trump

    Want more truth?

    "They [WHO] really called, I would say, every aspect of it wrong."
    ~ Donald J. Trump

    How about we hear what the director-general of WHO has said?

    "You can't fight a virus if you don't know where it is. That means
    a robust surveillance to find, isolate, test and treat every case, to
    break the chains of transmission."
    ~ WHO director-general Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus, March 2020

    Some countries acted quickly, including Germany, Singapore and
    South Korea. Which explains why those places are doing so much
    better than the USA.

    It is the correct move to cut it's funding, until a investigation can be
    concluded.

    The USA still does not have a national infrastructure for testing
    of the virus, nor for tracing the contacts of those infected with
    it. Whose fault is that? Donald J. Trump.

    Investigation concluded, case closed.

    --Lee

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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:221/360 to Gerhard Strangar on Mon Apr 20 01:28:23 2020
    Hello Gerhard,

    Let's look at Spanish Flu -
    Beginning of pandemic March 1918
    Global cases 500 million
    Global deaths 50 million (675,000 in USA)
    [...]
    Let's look at seasonal flu -
    Global cases 9% of population (1 billion, 5 million severe) >LL>Global deaths between 291,000 and 646,000 (death rate ~0.1%)
    [...]
    End of pandemic seasonal

    Well, actually there is nor real end, it keeps coming back every year, which
    means you could as well see it this way:

    The seasonal flu, yes. It never ends. But even the Spanish Flu
    did not actually "end" in 1919, as cases continued for 38 years after
    initial infection in 1918.

    Spanish Flu infected 500 million people and killed 50 million within the
    last 100 years. (actually 102, but let's keep the numbers simple)

    In 1918 that would be one-third of the global population being
    infected, with 10% of those infected dying.

    Seasonal Flu infected 36 billion people (100 times 9% out of a linearized
    average of 4 billions), that would be 36 million deaths at a constant death rate of 0.1%.

    Spanish Flu (March 1918 to Summer 1919) infected one-third
    of entire global population (500 million out of 1.5 billion),
    and 10% of those infected (50 million) died. After summer
    of 1919 there were very few cases of Spanish Flu anywhere in
    the world, even though some cases did crop up until the late
    1950s.

    Put those numbers in context with COVID-19.

    The global population today is about 7.8 billion people.
    One-third infected would be 2.6 billion people.
    10% of those infected winding up dead would be 260 million
    people. Let's say a quarter of a billion people dying
    within a year due to COVID-19.

    There's quite a high uncertainty in all of thouse numbers, though.

    Not that much.

    Both the Spanish Flu and the novel coronavirus are zoonotics.
    Both are highly contagious, and are true global pandemics.
    There was/is no effective treatment or vaccine for either.

    The only real questions that remain are how many people will die,
    and how quickly.

    One-third of the world population was infected by the Spanish Flu.
    Over 50 million people died as a result of having been infected.
    How many people do you think will become infected, and die, as a
    result of COVID-19?

    Now that's wild guessing, but we might see up to 80% infected, which would
    be 6 billion people.

    The numbers are known in regards to the Spanish Flu.
    Based on the same numbers (adjusted for increased population)
    and time frame allows for a well-qualified educated guess.

    Of course, it is possible that 80% of the world may get infected
    by the novel coronavirus, and that only God knows how many people
    will suffer and die as a result. In which case, Emily St. John
    Mandel did not write a work of fiction, but of a very real future
    that is becoming all too real.

    "Station Eleven", by Emily St. John Mandel. A flu epidemic devastates humanity, killing off almost everyone and bringing modern civilization
    to a grinding halt ...

    And it looks like the number of people dying with it is going to be
    somewhere between 3 million and 240 million people.

    Closer to 240 million, with the USA leading the way.

    But there are going to be new variants in the future.

    There are reports in India suggesting that the virus may have
    begun to mutate. In which case, current research on producing
    a vaccine have just been trashed ...

    Wen can "flatten the curve" one time and make it last longer, however,
    people might then get SARS-Cov-19 and a future SARS-Cov-20 at the same
    time.

    Ha! You just made the same mistake the US President's top advisor
    Kellyanne Conway made, thinking COVID-20 is the same as COVID-19.
    The number 19 is when the novel coronavirus was discovered, short
    for 2019. There is no COVID-20, as that would be another novel
    coronavirus in which a different vaccine would be needed.

    The world does not need to have *two* novel coronaviruses floating
    about at the same time. My gosh. We already have four coronaviruses
    in our systems as it is ...

    What are we going to do then, shut down the economy "twice as much"?

    With everybody dead I do not believe anybody will be worried about
    the economy.

    --Lee

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  • From Gerhard Strangar@2:240/2188.575 to Lee Lofaso on Mon Apr 20 07:43:41 2020
    Am 20 Apr 20 01:28:23 schrob Lee Lofaso an Gerhard Strangar zum Thema <Biggest Crash Ever!>

    Now that's wild guessing, but we might see up to 80% infected, which
    would be 6 billion people.
    The numbers are known in regards to the Spanish Flu.
    Based on the same numbers (adjusted for increased population)
    and time frame allows for a well-qualified educated guess.

    Not really. How many people flew the flu around the world in 1918? With an incubation time of two days, crossing the ocean in more than five is quite a good protection.

    Wen can "flatten the curve" one time and make it last longer, however,
    people might then get SARS-Cov-19 and a future SARS-Cov-20 at the same
    time.
    Ha! You just made the same mistake the US President's top advisor
    Kellyanne Conway made, thinking COVID-20 is the same as COVID-19.
    The number 19 is when the novel coronavirus was discovered, short
    for 2019. There is no COVID-20, as that would be another novel
    coronavirus in which a different vaccine would be needed.

    That's what a tried to express using the word "future", yet another - so far unknown - new variant. If "the experts" say that 70% aof the population get it,
    that would be almost 60 million in Germany. If kept trying to keep it below 6,000 infections per day, it would take more than 27 years. Imagine the SARS-CoV from 2002 and a "flatten the curve" until 2029. Or would it be 2045, because of an additinal flattening of MERS-CoV and now 2060 due to the additional SARS-CoV-2?

    What are we going to do then, shut down the economy "twice as much"?
    With everybody dead I do not believe anybody will be worried about
    the economy.

    SARS-CoV-1 killed 10% of the infected people, MERS-CoV killed 37%.
    SARS-CoV-2 isn't anywhere close to that.



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  • From Gerhard Strangar@2:240/2188.575 to Lee Lofaso on Mon Apr 20 07:50:39 2020
    Am 20 Apr 20 01:28:16 schrob Lee Lofaso an Gregory Deyss zum Thema
    <Biggest Crash Ever!>

    Some countries acted quickly, including Germany, Singapore and
    South Korea. Which explains why those places are doing so much
    better than the USA.

    We made a deal with the virus. So that from now on, it's gonna be only America first. America first! ;-)



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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:267/150 to Lee Lofaso on Mon Apr 20 09:22:35 2020
    The USA still does not have a national infrastructure for testing
    of the virus, nor for tracing the contacts of those infected with
    it. Whose fault is that? Donald J. Trump.

    Look on the bright side: the more people who die, the more you get to blame Trump for all of it. For all we know, he was probably the one who let the
    bats out of their cages in Wuhan.

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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:221/360 to Gerhard Strangar on Mon Apr 20 18:41:51 2020
    Hello Gerhard,

    Now that's wild guessing, but we might see up to 80% infected, which
    would be 6 billion people.
    The numbers are known in regards to the Spanish Flu.
    Based on the same numbers (adjusted for increased population)
    and time frame allows for a well-qualified educated guess.

    Not really. How many people flew the flu around the world in 1918? With an
    incubation time of two days, crossing the ocean in more than five is quite
    a good protection.

    According to Trump, there were airports during the Revolutionary War.
    Certainly by 1918 trans-Atlantic flights would have become routine ...

    On a more serious note, the Spanish Flu was in full swing during
    WWI, but the focus of everybody's attention was on the war, almost
    as if there was no pandemic.

    The main mode of transport in 1918 was by boat, rather than by
    plane, to cross the oceean. But transmission is by respiratory
    droplets, mainly person to person. Being next to someone who
    has it while in the trenches fighting a war is not a good place
    to be.

    Wen can "flatten the curve" one time and make it last longer, however, >>>people might then get SARS-Cov-19 and a future SARS-Cov-20 at the same >>>time.
    Ha! You just made the same mistake the US President's top advisor >LL>Kellyanne Conway made, thinking COVID-20 is the same as COVID-19.
    The number 19 is when the novel coronavirus was discovered, short
    for 2019. There is no COVID-20, as that would be another novel >LL>coronavirus in which a different vaccine would be needed.

    That's what a tried to express using the word "future", yet another - so
    far unknown - new variant. If "the experts" say that 70% aof the population get it, that would be almost 60 million in Germany. If kept trying to keep
    it below 6,000 infections per day, it would take more than 27 years.
    Imagine the SARS-CoV from 2002 and a "flatten the curve" until 2029. Or
    would it be 2045, because of an additinal flattening of MERS-CoV and now
    2060 due to the additional SARS-CoV-2?

    Herd immunity threshhold will be reached way before 27 years.
    But how long would such immunity last? Could be only a few weeks.
    Could be longer. Nobody really knows. In any event, it would be
    a weak immunity, not nearly as effective as a vaccine, which would
    kill it.

    What are we going to do then, shut down the economy "twice as much"? >LL>With everybody dead I do not believe anybody will be worried about
    the economy.

    SARS-CoV-1 killed 10% of the infected people, MERS-CoV killed 37%.
    SARS-CoV-2 isn't anywhere close to that.

    Both were contained. Not the novel coronavirus, which is out in
    the open creating havoc everywhere.

    The USA has a third of the 2.3 million COVID-19 cases around the
    globe - but only 4.2% of the Earth's population. The USA also has
    the highest number of deaths due to COVID-19 than any country.

    750,000 cases and 40,000 deaths as of 4/19/2020 in USA alone.
    That is roughly one-third of all global cases/deaths.
    Imagine what the final tally will be when this is all over ...

    --Lee

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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:221/360 to Gerhard Strangar on Mon Apr 20 18:48:10 2020
    Hello Gerhard,

    Some countries acted quickly, including Germany, Singapore and
    South Korea. Which explains why those places are doing so much
    better than the USA.

    We made a deal with the virus. So that from now on, it's gonna be only
    America first. America first! ;-)

    That is what one would call the art of the deal. :)

    --Lee

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  • From Dan Cross@3:770/100 to Gregory Deyss on Wed Apr 22 02:44:27 2020
    On 19 Apr 2020 at 07:05a, Gregory Deyss pondered and said...

    The director of WHO has some explaining to do, the United States, not china has contributed majority of it's funding, so explain why are they listening or influenced by a communist country who wants to hold the truth.

    CDC doctors working with the WHO had been sending
    data back to the US since like January.

    Nice try at finding another scapegoat, but this
    one won't work out, either.

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  • From Ron Lauzon@1:275/89 to Aaron Thomas on Tue Apr 21 10:12:00 2020
    Aaron Thomas wrote to Lee Lofaso <=-

    Look on the bright side: the more people who die, the more you get to blame Trump for all of it. For all we know, he was probably the one who let the bats out of their cages in Wuhan.

    But it seems to be lefties (especially the ones with TDS) who have bats in their belfrey. 8)

    ... I have my wife on a 4 year lease with an option to buy.
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  • From Gregory Deyss@1:267/150 to Gerhard Strangar on Tue Apr 21 12:13:42 2020
    On 20 Apr 2020, Gerhard Strangar said the following...

    Am 20 Apr 20 01:28:16 schrob Lee Lofaso an Gregory Deyss zum Thema <Biggest Crash Ever!>

    Some countries acted quickly, including Germany, Singapore and
    South Korea. Which explains why those places are doing so much
    better than the USA.

    We made a deal with the virus. So that from now on, it's gonna be only America first. America first! ;-)

    That was rather insightful to use the "America First" slogan in these terms
    for the U.S. to prolong the virus here in the United States.

    I do not believe that anyone would wish Germany or it's people harm during these times of hardship with the covid-19

    The America First slogan, came about is because many past President's
    remained ineffective as they have allowed our Nation and it's tax payers to
    get ripped off by other countries.

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  • From Gerhard Strangar@2:240/2188.575 to Gregory Deyss on Wed Apr 22 07:43:05 2020
    Am 21 Apr 20 12:13:42 schrob Gregory Deyss an Gerhard Strangar zum Thema
    <Re: Biggest Crash Ever!>

    We made a deal with the virus. So that from now on, it's gonna be
    only America first. America first! ;-)
    That was rather insightful to use the "America First" slogan in these terms for the U.S. to prolong the virus here in the United States.

    As insightful as Trump's behaviour?
    In March, Dietmar Hopp from the CureVac Aktiengesellschaft Tbingen said they rejected an offer over 1 billion US dollars to exclusively provide the vaccine to the United States if they find one.

    Merkel was in quarantine in 2020 due to being in contact with someone who's infected. Trump already avoided shaking her hand in 2017.
    Thi article suggests that Hillary Clinton might be infected: https://tediummedia.com/is-hillary-infected-the-odds-definitely-seem-against-her-after-this-stunt/
    Trump did not shake her hand at the funeral in December 2018.
    Nancy Pelosi got close to someone who is infected and Trump did not shake her hand in February.

    In March Trump said "You can't be a politician and not shake hands".

    He's not being tested himself. Does he know who he can safely shake hands with?

    Moreover: https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-proximitypoll/how-many-americans-have-coronavirus-new-reuters-poll-might-offer-a-hint-idUSKBN21D2XJ

    "About 14% of Democrats said they are infected or know of someone infected, compared to about 10% of Republicans."


    It looks like Trump knew Covid-19 was coming and who not to shake hands with because they were being targetted by this new kind of warfare ;-)
    And when people come up with vaccines, he just buys them and puts them in a safe to not stop his plans of world domination. ;-)
    And when he finally rules this planet, he will build a great wall to stop all those extraterrestrials from coming in. ;-)



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  • From Gregory Deyss@1:267/150 to Gerhard Strangar on Wed Apr 22 08:15:03 2020
    It looks like Trump knew Covid-19 was coming and who not to shake hands with because they were being targetted by this new kind of warfare ;-)
    And when people come up with vaccines, he just buys them and puts them
    in a safe to not stop his plans of world domination. ;-)
    And when he finally rules this planet, he will build a great wall to
    stop all those extraterrestrials from coming in. ;-)

    As you provide you reasons, in an attempt to defend and validate, they fail
    to explain or to support, your America First comment in the Covid-19 context.

    So your annoyed with the President, ok . America as a nation did not do these things, that is like blaming all of Germany for what Hitler did.

    My Ancestry is of German origin, I would love to visit Germany one day, but
    for me I am going to learn the language first.

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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:221/360 to Gerhard Strangar on Thu Apr 23 00:25:57 2020
    Hello Gerhard,

    We made a deal with the virus. So that from now on, it's gonna be GS>> only America first. America first! ;-)
    That was rather insightful to use the "America First" slogan in these terms for the U.S. to prolong the virus here in the United States.

    As insightful as Trump's behaviour?
    In March, Dietmar Hopp from the CureVac Aktiengesellschaft Tbingen said
    they rejected an offer over 1 billion US dollars to exclusively provide the vaccine to the United States if they find one.

    Merkel was in quarantine in 2020 due to being in contact with someone who's infected. Trump already avoided shaking her hand in 2017. Thi article suggests that Hillary Clinton might be infected: https://tediummedia.com/is-hillary-infected-the-odds-definitely-seem-against-her-after-this-stunt/
    Trump did not shake her hand at the funeral in December 2018. Nancy Pelosi got close to someone who is infected and Trump did not shake her hand in February.

    In March Trump said "You can't be a politician and not shake hands".

    He's not being tested himself. Does he know who he can safely shake hands with?

    Moreover: https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-proximitypoll/how-many-americans-have-coronavirus-new-reuters-poll-might-offer-a-hint-idUSKBN21D2XJ

    "About 14% of Democrats said they are infected or know of someone infected, compared to about 10% of Republicans."


    It looks like Trump knew Covid-19 was coming and who not to shake hands
    with because they were being targetted by this new kind of warfare ;-) And when people come up with vaccines, he just buys them and puts them in a
    safe to not stop his plans of world domination. ;-) And when he finally
    rules this planet, he will build a great wall to stop all those extraterrestrials from coming in. ;-)

    Dear God I hope and pray you are joking.

    --Lee

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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:221/360 to Gregory Deyss on Thu Apr 23 00:26:04 2020
    Hello Greg,

    It looks like Trump knew Covid-19 was coming and who not to shake hands >GS>with because they were being targetted by this new kind of warfare ;-) >GS>And when people come up with vaccines, he just buys them and puts them >GS>in a safe to not stop his plans of world domination. ;-)
    And when he finally rules this planet, he will build a great wall to >GS>stop all those extraterrestrials from coming in. ;-)

    As you provide you reasons, in an attempt to defend and validate, they fail
    to explain or to support, your America First comment in the Covid-19
    context.

    Not to worry. He has placed Mike Pence in charge of the Space Farce.
    As well as COVID-19. Now all we are doing is waiting for our crew of astronauts to blast off on the SpaceX Dragon on May 27. Oh I remember
    Apollo I like it was yesterday ...

    So your annoyed with the President, ok . America as a nation did not do
    these things, that is like blaming all of Germany for what Hitler did.

    Hitler became chancellor of Germany through legal means, without
    any help from Russia.

    Trump became president of the USA with plenty of help from Russia,
    making him an illegitimate president.

    That is the difference between Hitler and Trump.

    My Ancestry is of German origin, I would love to visit Germany one day, but
    for me I am going to learn the language first.

    https://www.learngermanonline.org/free-ebooks-for-download/


    Knock yourself out.

    --Lee

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  • From Gerhard Strangar@2:240/2188.575 to Gregory Deyss on Thu Apr 23 08:37:31 2020
    Am 22 Apr 20 08:15:03 schrob Gregory Deyss an Gerhard Strangar zum Thema
    <Re: Biggest Crash Ever!>

    As you provide you reasons, in an attempt to defend and validate, they fail to explain or to support, your America First comment in the
    Covid-19 context.

    Did you not see the blinking smilies?



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  • From Gerhard Strangar@2:240/2188.575 to Lee Lofaso on Thu Apr 23 08:49:41 2020
    Am 23 Apr 20 00:25:57 schrob Lee Lofaso an Gerhard Strangar zum Thema <Biggest Crash Ever!>

    Dear God I hope and pray you are joking.

    Only where there are smilies.



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