• Re: First Racist Presiden

    From Dennis Katsonis@1:124/5016 to Nick Andre on Thu Aug 27 11:03:00 2020
    Nick Andre wrote to Aaron Thomas <=-

    On 26 Aug 20 09:29, Aaron Thomas said the following to Nick Andre:

    In related news: Last night I wanted to watch the RNC convention, and I
    don
    have cable. The only broadcast channel that offered to show it was PBS. So tuned to PBS, and they showed bits and pieces of the convention with anti-Trump commentary breaks every 2 minutes. There was really no way to
    wa

    Remember in the 80's and early 90's when CNN was actually somewhat
    decent? No opinions, no nonsense. I heard that Ted Turner is even
    pissed how his creation turned out today. And remember how the major
    news channels used to thumb their noses at tabloid shows like Hard Copy and Current Affair? PBS was actually not that bad? And even TLC
    actually had some redeeming social enlightenment value before Here
    Comes Honey Boo-boo?

    I like to pinpoint the OJ trial as the first real noticable shift from serious reporting to tabloid/gonzo journalism going mainstream and the rise of opinion shows and "expert panels" and blahblahblah feedback discussions.

    Clinton's blowjob scandals were the icing on the cake... uhh, so to
    speak.

    Nick

    I think you are right here. People usually blame the Internet for the decline in mainstream news, and the need to compete with blogs and such. But I don't buy this. The reason is I don't think they are trying to be respectable and decent. For example, I read an article on news.com.au, which is a major Australian online news site, about the RNC convention, and it was pure editorialising. The writer was blithely assuming that all the readers would have the exact same reaction. There are manufactured stories based on a few tweets. This is fake news, making a story out of nothing. So many clickbait or just false headlines. Partisan positions, moralising and paternalistic attitudes.

    Now this always happened to a degree, but standards really slipped. I do remember when news was more objective. Now, they clearly have a particular "voice", which speaks for a very particular segment of society. And these changes were happening 20 years ago.

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  • From Nick Andre@1:229/426 to Dennis Katsonis on Wed Aug 26 23:30:31 2020
    On 27 Aug 20 11:03:00, Dennis Katsonis said the following to Nick Andre:

    I think you are right here. People usually blame the Internet for the decl in mainstream news, and the need to compete with blogs and such. But I don buy this. The reason is I don't think they are trying to be respectable an decent. For example, I read an article on news.com.au, which is a major Australian online news site, about the RNC convention, and it was pure editorialising. The writer was blithely assuming that all the readers woul

    Oh I've seen the editorialising too, I'm in Canada and not sure if you read my other messages but it is mostly a liberal-leaning slant in all of our media here. But... I'm one to actually agree that the Internet "kinda-sorta" is the problem. Specifically social media. The rise of Twitter has made various news outlets just copy-n-paste from Twitter as its seen as the official voice for whoever it is, whether its a celebrity or President Trump or whoever.

    Nick

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  • From Dennis Katsonis@1:124/5016 to Nick Andre on Thu Aug 27 22:26:00 2020
    Nick Andre wrote to Dennis Katsonis <=-

    On 27 Aug 20 11:03:00, Dennis Katsonis said the following to Nick
    Andre:

    I think you are right here. People usually blame the Internet for the
    decl
    in mainstream news, and the need to compete with blogs and such. But I
    don
    buy this. The reason is I don't think they are trying to be respectable
    an
    decent. For example, I read an article on news.com.au, which is a major Australian online news site, about the RNC convention, and it was pure editorialising. The writer was blithely assuming that all the readers
    woul

    Oh I've seen the editorialising too, I'm in Canada and not sure if you read my other messages but it is mostly a liberal-leaning slant in all
    of our media here. But... I'm one to actually agree that the Internet "kinda-sorta" is the problem. Specifically social media. The rise of Twitter has made various news outlets just copy-n-paste from Twitter as its seen as the official voice for whoever it is, whether its a
    celebrity or President Trump or whoever.

    I haven't seen all the thread. I remember at the time the 9/11 attacks happened, shortly afterwards, the media when talking about Afghanistan and Al Quaeda would always include a paragraph about Iraq. Not that it was related, it was just there. They were clearly pushing an agenda.

    Social media has definately accelerated things big time, but I think the rot was set in beforehand. I find it hard to believe we would have a great mainstream media, if it weren't for social media. Do they really need to take 4 tweets and manufacture a story? Is it really necessary? Or is it more that journalists now see their job as pushing a social agenda?

    I think people going into journalism now, more and more, see their role as pushing social change, pushing an agenda, and you only really make it, if you agree with the groupthink of the MSM.


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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:229/426 to All on Thu Aug 27 09:31:12 2020
    I read through Fox news' stories this mornign kinda fast, so then I read the headlines at cnn.com to see how different they would be. And they were pretty different!

    After reading Fox first, I couldn't overlook the fact that CNN isn't saying anything about the violence in Kenosha, except for the (old already) story about the unarmed black man being shot. Nothing about violent "peaceful protesters" in Minneapolis looting and burning stores, nothing about peaceful protesters smashing and burning busineses in Oakland, nothing about the 71 year old business owner getting his jaw broken by "peaceful protesters" in Kenosha, nothing about the 85 year old woman being mugged in Chicago.

    The news over at CNN is a lot more peaceful! Maybe that's what liberals like about it. The focus at CNN is on the guy who was shot by police (the black guy - no mention about any other color getting shot by police despite it happening every day.) Instead, a few weak jabs at the RNC convention, and even one story where they take a shot at some paramedics who accidentally pronounced a woman dead when she was still alive.

    The evidence that they're painting pictures was easy to see this morning. CNN don't deliver news anymore. Do liberals even watch it? Or do they watch Fox so they can find stuff to complain about? It's ok, I'm guilty of it too.

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  • From Ron Lauzon@1:275/89 to Aaron Thomas on Fri Aug 28 09:53:00 2020
    Aaron Thomas wrote to All <=-

    The news over at CNN is a lot more peaceful! Maybe that's what liberals like about it.

    Lefties have a hard time with reality, in general. Especially when reality won't follow their Narrative.

    Note that I don't use the term "liberal". The classical liberals are actually pretty nice, smart people and really have more in common with the Republicans today.

    The evidence that they're painting pictures was easy to see this
    morning. CNN don't deliver news anymore. Do liberals even watch it? Or
    do they watch Fox so they can find stuff to complain about? It's ok,
    I'm guilty of it too.

    Lefties get upset whenever they see someone reporting facts that go counter
    to their Narrative. So they most likely watch CNN to get a warm fuzzy. Then they head over to Fox because they also get antsy when they aren't angry at someone/something.


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  • From Ron Lauzon@1:275/89 to Gregory Deyss on Fri Aug 28 09:59:00 2020
    Gregory Deyss wrote to Lee Lofaso <=-

    You're fired, Donald!
    You're hate for him, just means, he is doing a Great job.

    Lefties hate anyone who are more successful then they are - which is pretty much everyone else because Lefties are pretty much useless people.

    Their hate for the people who succeed has been fueled by the miseducation
    that they have received all their lives. Leftie "teachers" (really indoctrinators) who are envious of the nice lives that the people who have succeeded live. Those "teachers" believe themselves to be far more intelligent than others, and therefore, more important. So they are envious and mad that others who do things like start successful businesses and
    invent products that everyone wants make far more then they do.

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  • From Mike Miller@1:154/30.1 to Aaron Thomas on Fri Aug 28 18:01:56 2020
    Hello, Aaron Thomas.
    On 8/27/20 9:31 AM you wrote:

    The evidence that they're painting pictures was easy to see this
    morning. CNN don't deliver news anymore. Do liberals even watch
    it? Or do they watch Fox so they can find stuff to complain about?
    It's ok, I'm guilty of it too.

    The only time I hear about CNN is when conservatives are whining about it. I'm pretty sure you lot are keeping them on the air.


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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:229/426 to Ron Lauzon on Fri Aug 28 13:18:43 2020
    Note that I don't use the term "liberal". The classical liberals are actua

    I relate the term to wasting a liberal amount of tax revenue, or liberating criminals.

    Lefties get upset whenever they see someone reporting facts that go counter to their Narrative. So they most likely watch CNN to get a warm fuzzy. T

    I noticed that Fox News is not really biased like many people claim. They are not reluctant to report Republican failures or Democrat success stories.

    I tune into CNN sometimes just for a wider variety of non-political news stories, but I get a little offended when they inject anti-Trump messages into everything. That's something that conservative news like Fox, OANN, & NY
    Post don't do. You don't get a Fox news story saying something like "ISIS advancing in Syria due to lack of action from Obama." (even though that would probably be accurate.)

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  • From Gregory Deyss@1:267/150 to Aaron Thomas on Thu Sep 3 08:32:13 2020
    On 28 Aug 2020, Aaron Thomas said the following...

    I tune into CNN sometimes just for a wider variety of non-political news stories, but I get a little offended when they inject anti-Trump
    messages into everything. That's something that conservative news like Fox, OANN, & NY Post don't do. You don't get a Fox news story saying something like "ISIS advancing in Syria due to lack of action from
    Obama." (even though that would probably be accurate.)

    Brave man watching CNN, I avoid watching CNN and PMS_MSNBC, you will never get the truth from those networks, see if you can get Newsmax TV. Trust me, Aaron it will be like a breath of fresh air.

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:229/426 to Gregory Deyss on Thu Sep 3 21:38:07 2020
    the truth from those networks, see if you can get Newsmax TV. Trust me, Aar it will be like a breath of fresh air.

    Thanks for that tip. I'll try Newsmax TV. I was delighted when I first learned about OANN. They are pretty cool.

    I'll always be a Fox News fan, but they've been getting a little irritating lately with their typical media antics, covering stories about "black man shot by police." I thought they were better than that, but it seems like they too want to aim for shock value and use irelevant race-reporting.

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  • From Gregory Deyss@1:267/150 to Aaron Thomas on Sat Sep 5 09:09:39 2020
    On 03 Sep 2020, Aaron Thomas said the following...

    the truth from those networks, see if you can get Newsmax TV. Trust me it will be like a breath of fresh air.

    Thanks for that tip. I'll try Newsmax TV. I was delighted when I first learned about OANN. They are pretty cool.

    I'll always be a Fox News fan, but they've been getting a little irritating lately with their typical media antics, covering stories
    about "black man shot by police." I thought they were better than that, but it seems like they too want to aim for shock value and use irelevant race-reporting.

    Fox News has a few critics all of which are Democrats.
    Chris Wallace, Juan Williams and the most irritating person of all has to be Jessica Tarlov who is the absolute worst.
    The people within fox news panels have to be thinking, who invited this bitch?

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:229/426 to Gregory Deyss on Sat Sep 5 10:22:50 2020
    Chris Wallace, Juan Williams and the most irritating person of all has to b Jessica Tarlov who is the absolute worst.

    Chris Wallace is a liberal? I never noticed that about him. He doesn't seem that bad. I liked his handling of the Trump/Clinton debate.

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