• Re: Election

    From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Andeddu on Wed Nov 25 14:44:42 2020
    Re: Re: Election
    By: Andeddu to Dr. What on Wed Nov 25 2020 09:53 am


    Re: Re: Election
    By: Dr. What to Al on Tue Nov 24 2020 08:13 am

    Trump is a Conservative. But we haven't seen one with a backbone in
    so long that it's hard to recognize.

    Trump's ideological views are Conservative. His biggest problem though is that he believes in big government and has expanded it since taking office. Contrary to what he said he was going to do, he did not shrink government but has instead added 2 million jobs to the federal workforce.

    oh god trump made 2 million jobs. he is literally hitler
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  • From Andeddu@VERT/AMSTRAD to MRO on Thu Nov 26 11:04:44 2020
    Re: Re: Election
    By: MRO to Andeddu on Wed Nov 25 2020 02:44 pm

    Trump's ideological views are Conservative. His biggest problem though is that he believes in big government and has expanded it since taking office. Contrary to what he said he was going to do, he did not shrink government but has instead added 2 million jobs to the federal workforce.

    oh god trump made 2 million jobs. he is literally hitler

    Public sector jobs are not "real" jobs though. Any president could employ their entire nation and have 0% unemployment, but that would crash the economy. A true Conservative belives in private ownership and Capitalism as an economic system, and that includes having a SMALL government.

    He is more of an old school Democrat, the sort you'd find in the 70s-80s.

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  • From Dr. What@VERT/DMINE to Al on Thu Nov 26 08:41:00 2020
    Al wrote to Dr. What <=-

    They wanted a corrupt prosecutor fired, and he was.

    They wanted a prosecutor who was going after the corrupt company Hunter Biden was on the board off.

    Big difference there.

    That is what Donald Trump was doing. That is largely what got him impeached.

    *Yawn* Ya, a big nothing-burger from the Dems wasting all that time and money on their political games.

    Your right, Biden has been in politics for decades. He was vice
    president for eight years beside a very successful president. The
    people knew what they were getting with Biden.

    Ya, more corruption, which is all the Osama... er.. Obama administration gave us.

    I have the facts in hand. The facts don't show any of the right's
    claims as having any basis in reality. Fantasy maybe, but not reality.

    All you have is Leftie talking points. But for Lefties, the Narrative is reality. That's why Lefties are so mad and sad all the time: Reality won't go along with their Narrative.



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  • From Dr. What@VERT/DMINE to Andeddu on Thu Nov 26 08:50:00 2020
    Andeddu wrote to Dr. What <=-

    Trump's ideological views are Conservative. His biggest problem though
    is that he believes in big government and has expanded it since taking office. Contrary to what he said he was going to do, he did not shrink government but has instead added 2 million jobs to the federal
    workforce.

    I just love the way Lefties want to change the definition to match their "facts".

    "Big Government" has to do with the intrusion of government into our lives.

    I will point to the Preamble to the Constutition:
    "We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America."

    So, let's see, the Dems:
    1. Allowed people to riot and destroy cities - so they failed on domestic tranquility.
    2. Are in league with China and Russia - so they failed on common defense.
    3. Promote social programs that keep people in poverty - so they fail on general welfare.
    4. Want to tell us how to live our lives - so they fail on the Blessings of Liberty.

    while Trump:
    1. Deputized local law enforcement as federal agents which help to squash the riots.
    2. Is pulling out of bad foreign deals, foreign wars and is brokering peace - sounds to me like it's providing for common defence.
    3. Removing rules, regulations, programs that keep people down. The last 4 years were the most prosperous in a long time for people.
    4. Wants to get the government out of our lives as much as possible.

    And then we get to the Leftie "definition" of "Conservative" that you seem to want to redefine to meet your arguments.


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  • From DaiTengu@VERT/ENSEMBLE to Dr. What on Thu Nov 26 10:29:34 2020
    Re: Re: Election
    By: Dr. What to DaiTengu on Fri Nov 20 2020 09:33 am

    Land doesn't vote. People do.

    And I'll remind you that we live in a Republic, not a Democracy.

    I'm quite aware.

    Lefties like to ignore the facts that they don't like. The fact is that the Constutition set up a system where the President is the candidate that gets the most wide-spread support.

    Incorrect. feel free to go back to school and read upon the "three-fifths compromise". The real reason we have the Electoral College is abhorrent.

    The Constitution was set up so that it could be changed over the years. It's supposed to be a living document, yet it's been 49 years since we went through that process with the 26th amendment.


    If you look at the maps, you will see that Biden got only a few, hightly populated areas of the country. Even here in Michigan, he got only the large cities. Not what I would call "wide-spread" support.

    once again, Land doesn't vote. All but 2 states cast all their electoral college ballots for the presidential candidate that won the popular vote for that state. If the majority of the voting population lives in a city, and they overwhelmingly support a specific candidate, then that's all that matters. One person who lives in a 300sq foot apartment in a city has a vote that's worth the same as someone who owns hundreds and hundreds of acres of countryside.

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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to MRO on Thu Nov 26 09:49:00 2020
    oh god trump made 2 million jobs. he is literally hitler

    Yes, glad we are getting rid of him so that those poor 2 million folks can
    go back to living off the dole or working minimum wage.


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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Andeddu on Thu Nov 26 14:07:14 2020
    Re: Re: Election
    By: Andeddu to MRO on Thu Nov 26 2020 11:04 am

    Public sector jobs are not "real" jobs though. Any president could employ

    okay i'll go tell that to the people i know that work in DC but live in really huge fucking houses and have nice everything in virginia and nearby states.

    economy. A true Conservative belives in private ownership and Capitalism as an economic system, and that includes having a SMALL government.

    He is more of an old school Democrat, the sort you'd find in the 70s-80s.

    yes, as yahoo news says, he's a former reality show host. he's a businessman, not a politician.
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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Dumas Walker on Thu Nov 26 14:10:38 2020
    Re: Re: Election
    By: Dumas Walker to MRO on Thu Nov 26 2020 09:49 am

    oh god trump made 2 million jobs. he is literally hitler

    Yes, glad we are getting rid of him so that those poor 2 million folks can go back to living off the dole or working minimum wage.


    people are just lazy and pathetic. i joined my state's unemployment group on facebook. it's one where they complain about the many issues in wisconsin.

    people have been sitting on their asses for 8 months just waiting for their unemployment payouts. they arent looking for work. i ask them why they are waiting so long when there's good paying jobs out there and they dont give the reasons and jump down my throat.

    people want to sit at home and get high and have the government take care of them. my body is fucked up. i can barely walk because of an injured tendon in my leg and i am still on my feet all day and moving around.
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  • From Al@VERT/TRMB to Dr. What on Fri Nov 27 01:07:07 2020
    Re: Re: Election
    By: Dr. What to Al on Thu Nov 26 2020 08:41 am

    They wanted a corrupt prosecutor fired, and he was.

    They wanted a prosecutor who was going after the corrupt company Hunter Biden was on the board off.

    Big difference there.

    There is and you continue to miss it.

    That is what Donald Trump was doing. That is largely what got him
    impeached.

    *Yawn* Ya, a big nothing-burger from the Dems wasting all that time and money on their political games.

    You dismiss the facts and cling to a conspiracy theory.

    All you have is Leftie talking points. But for Lefties, the Narrative is reality. That's why Lefties are so mad and sad all the time: Reality won't go along with their Narrative.

    I admit I enjoy a good conspiracy theory myself sometimes.

    Ttyl :-),
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  • From Tracker1@VERT/TRN to DaiTengu on Fri Nov 27 06:44:31 2020
    On 11/26/2020 9:29 AM, DaiTengu wrote:
    Incorrect. feel free to go back to school and read upon the
    "three-fifths compromise". The real reason we have the Electoral
    College is abhorrent.

    Maybe *YOU* should go back to school, as the 3/5 compromise predates the electoral college, and doesn't have anything to do with Congressional representation for a century and a half, twice the lifetime of almost
    everyone alive today.

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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to MRO on Fri Nov 27 10:27:00 2020
    people are just lazy and pathetic. i joined my state's unemployment group on facebook. it's one where they complain about the many issues in wisconsin.

    people have been sitting on their asses for 8 months just waiting for their un
    ployment payouts. they arent looking for work. i ask them why they are waitin
    so long when there's good paying jobs out there and they dont give the reasons
    nd jump down my throat.

    people want to sit at home and get high and have the government take care of t
    m. my body is fucked up. i can barely walk because of an injured tendon in my
    eg and i am still on my feet all day and moving around.

    There are many elitist democratic voters who will tell you that those folks don't exist. I am glad I am not the only one who notices them. I live in
    an area where most of my neighbors are older and retired. Something I had noticed before, and have again now that we are on WFH, is the number of
    adult children who spend most of their time (in good weather) sitting on
    their parent's front porches playing on their cell phones. They were doing
    it before COVID, so there is no blaming it on that. They are basically
    waiting for mom and dad to kick off so that they can have the house. A
    couple of them have been sent up the river for dealing drugs off the porch. They are lazy af.

    One of those neighbors moved out. A person closer to my age moved it. Her teenage/early-20's son has at least 2 jobs. Good to see that some kids
    still want to work.


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  • From Andeddu@VERT/AMSTRAD to Dr. What on Fri Nov 27 15:38:22 2020
    Re: Re: Election
    By: Dr. What to Andeddu on Thu Nov 26 2020 08:50 am

    And then we get to the Leftie "definition" of "Conservative" that you seem to want to redefine to meet your arguments.

    Ahem, you're calling me a "Leftie"? I said Trump, by today's standards, is ideologically Conservative, but his promulgation of an expanded government is counter-productive to economical prosperity.

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  • From Arelor@VERT/PALANT to Dumas Walker on Sat Nov 28 02:55:52 2020
    Re: Re: Election
    By: Dumas Walker to MRO on Fri Nov 27 2020 10:27 am

    There are many elitist democratic voters who will tell you that those folks don't exist. I am glad I am not the only one who notices them. I live in an area where most of my neighbors are older and retired. Something I had noticed before, and have again now that we are on WFH, is the number of adult children who spend most of their time (in good weather) sitting on their parent's front porches playing on their cell phones. They were doing it before COVID, so there is no blaming it on that. They are basically waiting for mom and dad to kick off so that they can have the house. A couple of them have been sent up the river for dealing drugs off the porch. They are lazy af.

    One of those neighbors moved out. A person closer to my age moved it. Her teenage/early-20's son has at least 2 jobs. Good to see that some kids still want to work.

    We call those kids "NiNis" in Spain. "_Ni_ Estudian _Ni_ Trabajan" (No job, no studying).

    I don't think we have as many of those, but the ones we have seem to be concentrated in the same geographical areas. If you go to certain squares in Madrid it is easy to find people in the mid 20s that spend all their waking time partying in that square.

    Then we have a curious phenomenon here when it comes to unemployment. Spain has produced a lot of gradutates as of late. When those graduates hit the job market, it turns out there are no vacancies for gradutates and that most demand is for VS. After a year trying to turn my good for nothing Engineering degree into a job I started applying for lower level jobs, and got always rejected because I was overqualified.

    The same factory owners who sent me back home would then complain that no VS would take their job offers.

    Seriously, this place deserves to rot.

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  • From Dr. What@VERT/DMINE to DaiTengu on Sat Nov 28 08:56:00 2020
    DaiTengu wrote to Dr. What <=-

    Land doesn't vote. People do.

    And I'll remind you that we live in a Republic, not a Democracy.

    I'm quite aware.

    Then why do you keep bringing up the idea of "popular vote" in context of the Presidental Election?

    Lefties like to ignore the facts that they don't like. The fact is that

    Incorrect. feel free to go back to school and read upon the
    "three-fifths compromise". The real reason we have the Electoral
    College is abhorrent.

    I did read about the "three-fifths compromise". It's you who need to go back to school. You've obviously been incortrinated, not educated.

    The Constitution was set up so that it could be changed over the years. It's supposed to be a living document, yet it's been 49 years since we went through that process with the 26th amendment.

    Yes, it's a living document that has a well-documented process for changing it and it (obviously) works since since it's
    been used 26 times so far.

    What it doesn't allow (and this is what you Lefties don't like) is for it to be changed on a whim - and that's by design.

    Of course, if you actually were educated in this, you would know that.

    You might want to check out https://online.hillsdale.edu/#course-offerings
    They offer free online courses - a couple specifically on the Constitution.


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  • From Dr. What@VERT/DMINE to Al on Sat Nov 28 08:59:00 2020
    Al wrote to Dr. What <=-

    They wanted a corrupt prosecutor fired, and he was.

    They wanted a prosecutor who was going after the corrupt company Hunter Biden was on the board off.

    Big difference there.

    There is and you continue to miss it.

    Actually, I don't miss it. But you lefties want to keep dancing around yet another Biden crime.

    You dismiss the facts and cling to a conspiracy theory.

    Other way around. I cling to the facts but dismiss the delusions of the Left.

    But this is what Scott Adams says about "Two people seeing completely different movies, while watching the same movie."


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  • From Dr. What@VERT/DMINE to Andeddu on Sat Nov 28 09:02:00 2020
    Andeddu wrote to Dr. What <=-

    And then we get to the Leftie "definition" of "Conservative" that you seem to want to redefine to meet your arguments.

    Ahem, you're calling me a "Leftie"? I said Trump, by today's standards,
    is ideologically Conservative, but his promulgation of an expanded government is counter-productive to economical prosperity.

    And you've yet to show me the "expanded gov't".

    I've already explained that "expanded gov't" has nothing to do with number of employees. It has to do with the amount of
    intrusion the gov't has into people's lives.

    Trump has greatly reduced the number of rules and regulations and other gov't intrusions into our lives.

    So, I'm calling you a Leftie because you've used the standard Leftie tactic of redefining a term in order to
    "win" the argument.


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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to ARELOR on Sat Nov 28 10:42:00 2020
    We call those kids "NiNis" in Spain. "_Ni_ Estudian _Ni_ Trabajan" (No job, no >studying).

    My Spanish is quite rusty, and was never good enough to carry on a conversation, but I did understand that bit. :)

    Then we have a curious phenomenon here when it comes to unemployment. Spain has
    produced a lot of gradutates as of late. When those graduates hit the job >market, it turns out there are no vacancies for gradutates and that most demand
    is for VS. After a year trying to turn my good for nothing Engineering degree >into a job I started applying for lower level jobs, and got always rejected >because I was overqualified.

    The same factory owners who sent me back home would then complain that no VS >would take their job offers.

    What is a VS? I must admit that is one thing I am concerned with
    personally. Once I retire from my current IT job, I hope to still be employable at least on a part-time basis. My recollection of past attempts
    at getting a job outside of my field of study is that employers seem to
    turn their noses up at people with an IT degree or IT background, I assume because they are afraid we have no social skills, or any skills that don't involve sitting in front of a computer screen.

    I hope that is not the case.


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  • From DaiTengu@VERT/ENSEMBLE to Tracker1 on Sat Nov 28 14:45:08 2020
    Re: Re: Election
    By: Tracker1 to DaiTengu on Fri Nov 27 2020 06:44 am

    Incorrect. feel free to go back to school and read upon the
    "three-fifths compromise". The real reason we have the Electoral
    College is abhorrent.

    Maybe *YOU* should go back to school, as the 3/5 compromise predates the electoral college, and doesn't have anything to do with Congressional representation for a century and a half, twice the lifetime of almost everyone alive today.

    Slaves were counted as 3/5 of a person in terms of population. Population was (is) how congressional seats are decided, which, in turn, is how many Electoral College votes a state gets.

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  • From DaiTengu@VERT/ENSEMBLE to Dr. What on Sat Nov 28 14:58:54 2020
    Re: Re: Election
    By: Dr. What to DaiTengu on Sat Nov 28 2020 08:56 am

    Land doesn't vote. People do.

    And I'll remind you that we live in a Republic, not a Democracy.

    I'm quite aware.

    Then why do you keep bringing up the idea of "popular vote" in context of the Presidental Election?

    Because all but two states give all their electoral college votes to whomever wins the popular vote in that state. nearly 1/5 of Wisconsin's population lives in a tiny area, called "Milwaukee", which covers 0.14% of Wisconsin's land mass. While Wisconsin was very much "red" in terms of counties (including the county I live in), the people in Wisconsin voted for Biden as their president. The argument was that the vast majority of the US was "red" while only tiny areas were "blue". My point stands, and is factual. Land does not vote.

    You've obviously been incortrinated, not educated.

    You're adorable, you keep thinking that, Mr. Dr. robot.

    The Constitution was set up so that it could be changed over
    the years. It's supposed to be a living document, yet it's been 49
    years since we went through that process with the 26th amendment.

    Yes, it's a living document that has a well-documented process for changing it and it (obviously) works since since it's
    been used 26 times so far.

    What it doesn't allow (and this is what you Lefties don't like) is for it to be changed on a whim - and that's by design.

    Of course, if you actually were educated in this, you would know that.

    You might want to check out https://online.hillsdale.edu/#course-offerings They offer free online courses - a couple specifically on the Constitution.

    27 times. There are 27 Amendments to the constitution. The 27th Amendment was ratified in 1992, but the process for it began 202 years prior.

    But you know, I'm the one that needs courses on the Consitution, while Mr. Dr. Robot here doesn't even know how many Amendments there are.

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  • From Arelor@VERT/PALANT to Dr. What on Sat Nov 28 18:06:18 2020
    Re: Re: Election
    By: Dr. What to Andeddu on Sat Nov 28 2020 09:02 am

    And you've yet to show me the "expanded gov't".

    I've already explained that "expanded gov't" has nothing to do with number o employees. It has to do with the amount of
    intrusion the gov't has into people's lives.

    I agree that the expansiveness of a government is better messured by how much in intrudes in people's lives, but then, having a big workforce in its pocket is _usually_ an indication that it is expansive.

    I mean, it takes taxes to keep that workforce, and when that workforce is big, it is big for a reason. Either to buy votes (easy to make your workers vote for you when you are in the government), or to better intrude in the lives of everybody else.

    But I think the conversation misses the point.

    The core factor that separates conservatives from progressives is that conservatives adhere themselves to a set of traditional morals and cultural principles, while progresives reject them. That is why General Francisco Franco is considered a conservative despite the fact he was a hardcore socialist at heart. He was socializing everything in name of God and Country :-P
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  • From Arelor@VERT/PALANT to Dumas Walker on Sat Nov 28 18:11:40 2020
    Re: Re: Election
    By: Dumas Walker to ARELOR on Sat Nov 28 2020 10:42 am

    What is a VS? I must admit that is one thing I am concerned with personally. Once I retire from my current IT job, I hope to still be employable at least on a part-time basis. My recollection of past attempts at getting a job outside of my field of study is that employers seem to
    turn their noses up at people with an IT degree or IT background, I assume because they are afraid we have no social skills, or any skills that don't involve sitting in front of a computer screen.

    I hope that is not the case.

    VS would be Vocational Studies. If I am not mistaken, those are the equivalent of the Spanish FP (Formaci¢n Profesional).

    Piece of advice here: when applying to a low grade job, remove any reference to high profile IT qualifications. People does not seem to read past them when they find it in your CV, they just put it in the trash bin after reading that part :-( Main reason I am goign so hard at writing and setting my e-commerces nowadays is that my employability seems to be quite low if only for this reason.

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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to DAITENGU on Sun Nov 29 15:20:00 2020
    Slaves were counted as 3/5 of a person in terms of population. Population was
    is) how congressional seats are decided, which, in turn, is how many Electoral >ollege votes a state gets.

    That whole statement is not true. You talk as if the number was decided then and never changed. As the 3/5ths compromise is no longer used, everyone counts as 1. The number of congressional seats, and electoral votes, a state gets
    can change. Smaller states have seen their numbers go down, while larger states have seen their numbers go up.

    The 3/5ths compromise no longer has anything to do with determining how
    many congresspeople/votes a state gets.


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  • From DaiTengu@VERT/ENSEMBLE to Dumas Walker on Mon Nov 30 08:02:31 2020
    Re: Re: Election
    By: Dumas Walker to DAITENGU on Sun Nov 29 2020 03:20 pm

    That whole statement is not true. You talk as if the number was decided then and never changed. As the 3/5ths compromise is no longer used, everyone counts as 1. The number of congressional seats, and electoral votes, a state gets can change. Smaller states have seen their numbers go down, while larger states have seen their numbers go up.

    The 3/5ths compromise no longer has anything to do with determining how many congresspeople/votes a state gets.

    I never said it was. It did have everything to do with its creation, however.

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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to DAITENGU on Mon Nov 30 15:43:00 2020
    The 3/5ths compromise no longer has anything to do with determining how many congresspeople/votes a state gets.

    I never said it was. It did have everything to do with its creation, however.

    Congressional Representation had everything to do with the creation of the 3/5ths compromise, yes.


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  • From Andeddu@VERT/AMSTRAD to Dr. What on Tue Dec 1 02:09:33 2020
    Re: Re: Election
    By: Dr. What to Andeddu on Sat Nov 28 2020 09:02 am

    And you've yet to show me the "expanded gov't".

    I've already explained that "expanded gov't" has nothing to do with number of employees. It has to do with the amount of
    intrusion the gov't has into people's lives.

    Trump has greatly reduced the number of rules and regulations and other gov't intrusions into our lives.

    So, I'm calling you a Leftie because you've used the standard Leftie tactic of redefining a term in order to
    "win" the argument.

    I am talking about the literal size of government from an economic standpoint which has nothing to do with governemnt intrusion. Capitalists believe in a literal small government, not a bloated inefficent cash-sink. I think Trump's active resistance against the "deep state" shows that he's anti-government intrusion. I don't think there's an argument to "win"... I am not here to argue over the interwebz with some dude located thousands of miles away from me.

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  • From Tracker1@VERT/TRN to DaiTengu on Mon Nov 30 16:11:41 2020
    On 11/28/2020 1:45 PM, DaiTengu wrote:
    Maybe *YOU* should go back to school, as the 3/5 compromise predates the
    electoral college, and doesn't have anything to do with Congressional
    representation for a century and a half, twice the lifetime of almost
    everyone alive today.

    Slaves were counted as 3/5 of a person in terms of population. Population
    was (is) how congressional seats are decided, which, in turn, is how many Electoral College votes a state gets.

    Are you proposing another method of determining how many Congressional
    seats a give state gets?

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  • From DaiTengu@VERT/ENSEMBLE to Tracker1 on Mon Nov 30 23:51:43 2020
    Re: Re: Election
    By: Tracker1 to DaiTengu on Mon Nov 30 2020 04:11 pm

    Are you proposing another method of determining how many Congressional seats a give state gets?


    No, I'm proposing we scrap the EC and vote for president the same way governors of states are elected, by popular vote.

    DaiTengu

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  • From Gamgee@VERT/PALANT to Andeddu on Tue Dec 1 11:43:00 2020
    Andeddu wrote to Dr. What <=-

    So, I'm calling you a Leftie because you've used the standard Leftie tactic of redefining a term in order to "win" the argument.

    I am talking about the literal size of government from an
    economic standpoint which has nothing to do with governemnt
    intrusion. Capitalists believe in a literal small government, not
    a bloated inefficent cash-sink. I think Trump's active resistance
    against the "deep state" shows that he's anti-government
    intrusion. I don't think there's an argument to "win"... I am not
    here to argue over the interwebz with some dude located thousands
    of miles away from me.

    Good point there at the end. Why *ARE* you so obsessed with the
    goings on of the USA? You're not a citizen and you don't live here.
    STFU and mind your own business.



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  • From Arelor@VERT/PALANT to Gamgee on Tue Dec 1 17:49:54 2020
    Re: Re: Election
    By: Gamgee to Andeddu on Tue Dec 01 2020 11:43 am

    Good point there at the end. Why *ARE* you so obsessed with the
    goings on of the USA? You're not a citizen and you don't live here.
    STFU and mind your own business.

    I can't talk for Andeddu, but my own take is this:

    The US is the major exporter of culture in the Western world, and its main economical
    agent. Bad stuff that happens there will eventually reach us one way or another.

    I mean, I am not French either, but if they started experimenting with bioweapons I'd
    get concerned they could explode in ther faces and affect us :-P

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  • From Andeddu@VERT/AMSTRAD to Gamgee on Wed Dec 2 01:42:25 2020
    Re: Re: Election
    By: Gamgee to Andeddu on Tue Dec 01 2020 11:43 am

    intrusion. I don't think there's an argument to "win"... I am not
    here to argue over the interwebz with some dude located thousands
    of miles away from me.

    Good point there at the end. Why *ARE* you so obsessed with the
    goings on of the USA? You're not a citizen and you don't live here.
    STFU and mind your own business.

    That'll be shining... why would I ever listen to someone like you?

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  • From Gamgee@VERT/PALANT to Arelor on Tue Dec 1 21:07:33 2020
    Re: Re: Election
    By: Arelor to Gamgee on Tue Dec 01 2020 05:49 pm

    Re: Re: Election
    By: Gamgee to Andeddu on Tue Dec 01 2020 11:43 am

    Good point there at the end. Why *ARE* you so obsessed with the
    goings on of the USA? You're not a citizen and you don't live here.
    STFU and mind your own business.

    I can't talk for Andeddu, but my own take is this:

    The US is the major exporter of culture in the Western world, and its main economica agent. Bad stuff that happens there will eventually reach us one > way or another.

    Yes, understood and agreed.

    I mean, I am not French either, but if they started experimenting with bioweapons I'd get concerned they could explode in ther faces and affect us > :-P

    Yup, I agree with that too. The difference is that you don't constantly spew doom and gloom, and anti-USA drivel, and outright lies, the way this Andeddu character does. I get tired of his crap.

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  • From Dr. What@VERT/DMINE to DaiTengu on Wed Dec 2 09:08:00 2020
    DaiTengu wrote to Tracker1 <=-

    No, I'm proposing we scrap the EC and vote for president the same way governors of states are elected, by popular vote.

    Which, had you actually been educated about the Constutution and the Electoral College, would result in the majority of the country being disenfranchised.


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  • From Thumper@VERT/THEWASTE to DaiTengu on Wed Dec 2 10:06:00 2020
    DaiTengu wrote to Tracker1 <=-

    Re: Re: Election
    By: Tracker1 to DaiTengu on Mon Nov 30 2020 04:11 pm

    Are you proposing another method of determining how many Congressional seats a give state gets?


    No, I'm proposing we scrap the EC and vote for president the same way governors of states are elected, by popular vote.


    Then you end up like here in California where we are "lorded" over by Bay Area clowns that have no idea, or maybe don't give a shit, about our needs and wants in the rural areas. Most counties in Eastern, Northern and even some Southern Counties are Red. Bay Area, L.A. Area and maybe Sacramento and San Diego Areas control the elections. There's a whole lot more of the state that gets no real say and is forgotten about.




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  • From Thumper@VERT/THEWASTE to Dr. What on Wed Dec 2 10:07:00 2020
    Dr. What wrote to DaiTengu <=-

    DaiTengu wrote to Tracker1 <=-

    No, I'm proposing we scrap the EC and vote for president the same way governors of states are elected, by popular vote.

    Which, had you actually been educated about the Constutution and the Electoral College, would result in the majority of the country being disenfranchised.

    Exactly!!




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  • From Andeddu@VERT/AMSTRAD to Gamgee on Wed Dec 2 18:24:28 2020
    Re: Re: Election
    By: Gamgee to Arelor on Tue Dec 01 2020 09:07 pm

    Yup, I agree with that too. The difference is that you don't constantly spew doom and gloom, and anti-USA drivel, and outright lies, the way this Andeddu character does. I get tired of his crap.


    I don't like what's happening in the USA (as it'll affect us all globally) and I have a right to voice my opinion whether you like it or not. If you don't like it, don't engage with me. And if you do engage with me, at least attempt to debate my arguments rather than just slinging insults my way; you'll look more credible if you do. It's not rocket science, bud. There's no need to be so sensitive over the opinions of someone over the internet. I am not even purposely trying to trigger you! Why get upset when you're on DOVE-NET of all places... this isn't even Facebook, Reddit, 4Chan or any form of relevant social media!

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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to GAMGEE on Wed Dec 2 17:41:00 2020
    Yup, I agree with that too. The difference is that you don't constantly spew >doom and gloom, and anti-USA drivel, and outright lies, the way this Andeddu ch
    racter does. I get tired of his crap.

    Maybe it is because I moderate the FIDO Politics echo and have seen a lot
    of drivel in comparison, but I find most of Andeddu's posts here to be fairly non-anti-USA.


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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to THUMPER on Wed Dec 2 17:44:00 2020
    Then you end up like here in California where we are "lorded" over by Bay Area >clowns that have no idea, or maybe don't give a shit, about our needs and wants
    in the rural areas. Most counties in Eastern, Northern and even some Southern >Counties are Red. Bay Area, L.A. Area and maybe Sacramento and San Diego Areas >control the elections. There's a whole lot more of the state that gets no real >say and is forgotten about.

    People who tend to lean blue won't see that as a bad thing. If your folks
    in the Bay/LA/etc. areas are like some of our folks in Louisville, they get some enjoyment out of the possibility of making the rest of the state miserable.


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  • From Gamgee@VERT/PALANT to Andeddu on Wed Dec 2 20:03:00 2020
    Andeddu wrote to Gamgee <=-

    Yup, I agree with that too. The difference is that you don't constantly spew doom and gloom, and anti-USA drivel, and outright lies, the way this Andeddu character does. I get tired of his crap.

    I don't like what's happening in the USA (as it'll affect us all
    globally) and I have a right to voice my opinion whether you like
    it or not. If you don't like it, don't engage with me. And if you
    do engage with me, at least attempt to debate my arguments rather
    than just slinging insults my way; you'll look more credible if
    you do. It's not rocket science, bud. There's no need to be so
    sensitive over the opinions of someone over the internet. I am
    not even purposely trying to trigger you! Why get upset when
    you're on DOVE-NET of all places... this isn't even Facebook,
    Reddit, 4Chan or any form of relevant social media!

    Do you wear skinny-jeans and have a man-bun?



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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Gamgee on Thu Dec 3 08:30:51 2020
    Re: Re: Election
    By: Gamgee to Andeddu on Wed Dec 02 2020 08:03 pm

    Do you wear skinny-jeans and have a man-bun?

    Hey, what's wrong with a man-bun? :P

    Nightfox

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  • From Gamgee@VERT/PALANT to Nightfox on Thu Dec 3 11:38:00 2020
    Nightfox wrote to Gamgee <=-

    Re: Re: Election
    By: Gamgee to Andeddu on Wed Dec 02 2020 08:03 pm

    Do you wear skinny-jeans and have a man-bun?

    Hey, what's wrong with a man-bun? :P

    Heh, let's just say.... I'm not a fan. ;-)



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  • From Andeddu@VERT/AMSTRAD to Gamgee on Thu Dec 3 17:53:59 2020
    Re: Re: Election
    By: Gamgee to Andeddu on Wed Dec 02 2020 08:03 pm

    Do you wear skinny-jeans and have a man-bun?


    Yes and no. :)

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  • From Andeddu@VERT/AMSTRAD to Dumas Walker on Thu Dec 3 18:08:18 2020
    Re: Re: Election
    By: Dumas Walker to GAMGEE on Wed Dec 02 2020 05:41 pm

    Maybe it is because I moderate the FIDO Politics echo and have seen a lot
    of drivel in comparison, but I find most of Andeddu's posts here to be fairly non-anti-USA.

    I am defintely not anti-USA. On the contrary, I support the USA... but it can do better. It's just that certain people on here get VERY touchy and upset when 'outsiders' criticise their utopian constitutional Republic.

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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Andeddu on Thu Dec 3 17:17:30 2020
    Re: Re: Election
    By: Andeddu to Dumas Walker on Thu Dec 03 2020 06:08 pm

    I am defintely not anti-USA. On the contrary, I support the USA... but it can do better. It's just that certain people on here get VERY touchy and upset when 'outsiders' criticise their utopian constitutional Republic.

    We should be able to take criticism of one's own country - and even be able to criticize it ourselves when appropriate. I see it as patriotic to recognize things that are wrong with one's country and want to fix them.

    Nightfox

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Andeddu on Thu Dec 3 19:56:26 2020
    Re: Re: Election
    By: Andeddu to Dumas Walker on Thu Dec 03 2020 06:08 pm


    I am defintely not anti-USA. On the contrary, I support the USA... but it can do better. It's just that certain people on here get VERY touchy and upset when 'outsiders' criticise their utopian constitutional Republic. upset when 'outsiders' criticise their utopian constitutional Republic.

    what about your fucked up country? why don't they do better?
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  • From DaiTengu@VERT/ENSEMBLE to Dr. What on Thu Dec 3 20:32:33 2020
    Re: Re: Election
    By: Dr. What to DaiTengu on Wed Dec 02 2020 09:08 am

    Which, had you actually been educated about the Constutution and the Electoral College, would result in the majority of the country being disenfranchised.

    How so? the majority of the population of our country lives in large cities.


    Yes, those cities tend to vote Democratic quite heavily.

    Unless you're trying to say the majority of the land would be disenfranchised, because that would be a true statement.

    But then again, my whole point in this thread has been: Land does not vote. People do.

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  • From DaiTengu@VERT/ENSEMBLE to Thumper on Thu Dec 3 20:33:59 2020
    Re: Re: Election
    By: Thumper to DaiTengu on Wed Dec 02 2020 10:06 am

    Then you end up like here in California where we are "lorded" over by Bay Area clowns that have no idea, or maybe don't give a shit, about our needs and wants in the rural areas. Most counties in Eastern, Northern and even some Southern Counties are Red. Bay Area, L.A. Area and maybe Sacramento and San Diego Areas control the elections. There's a whole lot more of the state that gets no real say and is forgotten about.

    There is a whole lot more LAND. There is not a whole lot more population.

    DaiTengu

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  • From DaiTengu@VERT/ENSEMBLE to Nightfox on Thu Dec 3 20:35:57 2020
    Re: Re: Election
    By: Nightfox to Gamgee on Thu Dec 03 2020 08:30 am

    Do you wear skinny-jeans and have a man-bun?

    Hey, what's wrong with a man-bun? :P


    Everything.

    DaiTengu

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  • From Andeddu@VERT/AMSTRAD to Nightfox on Fri Dec 4 08:31:45 2020
    Re: Re: Election
    By: Nightfox to Andeddu on Thu Dec 03 2020 05:17 pm

    I am defintely not anti-USA. On the contrary, I support the USA... but it can do better. It's just that certain people on here get VERY touchy and upset when 'outsiders' criticise their utopian constitutional Republic.

    We should be able to take criticism of one's own country - and even be able to criticize it ourselves when appropriate. I see it as patriotic to recognize things that are wrong with one's country and want to fix them.

    Nightfox

    I would be inclinded to agree. Unless the flaws are pointed out, they can never be addressed. I said one thing to criticise Trump and a number of posters took it personally and jumped down my throat, which I found to be quite amusing as the snowflake mentality is characteristically angled towards the Left rather than the Right whereas the reality appears to be that both sides can be as bad as each other. I like Trump and if I were as US citizen, he'd have gotten my vote... but he sure isn't perfect! The USA, as a nation, is far from perfect either and the reason I have made my opinion known is that I'd like the US global hegemony maintained and not have it usurped in under a decade by a country like China.

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  • From Andeddu@VERT/AMSTRAD to MRO on Fri Dec 4 08:41:30 2020
    Re: Re: Election
    By: MRO to Andeddu on Thu Dec 03 2020 07:56 pm

    what about your fucked up country? why don't they do better?

    We should, but we haven't really spoken about the UK because I don't think you people know too much about it. The UK also doesn't have the clout that the USA has in the international arena, so it's less relevant.

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  • From Dr. What@VERT/DMINE to DaiTengu on Fri Dec 4 08:56:00 2020
    DaiTengu wrote to Dr. What <=-

    Which, had you actually been educated about the Constutution and the Electoral College, would result in the majority of the country being disenfranchised.

    How so? the majority of the population of our country lives in large cities.

    Your question demonstrates ignorance of the Constutition and why some of the things in it were set up the way they were.

    It is not my job to educate you. I will once again point you to https://online.hillsdale.edu/courses/constitution-101
    This is a free online class that will educate you.

    But it only works if you can accept information that goes counter to your narrative.


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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Andeddu on Fri Dec 4 09:24:18 2020
    Re: Re: Election
    By: Andeddu to Nightfox on Fri Dec 04 2020 08:31 am

    I would be inclinded to agree. Unless the flaws are pointed out, they can never be addressed. I said one thing to criticise Trump and a number of posters took it personally and jumped down my throat, which I found to be quite amusing as the snowflake mentality is characteristically angled towards the Left rather than the Right whereas the reality appears to be that both sides can be as bad as each other. I like Trump and if I were as

    There seems to be a double standard and a bit of hypocrisy about that. People don't like when other people criticize their candidate/party of choice, but they're also quick to criticize the other candidate/party..

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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to ANDEDDU on Fri Dec 4 11:06:00 2020
    I am defintely not anti-USA. On the contrary, I support the USA... but it can >do better. It's just that certain people on here get VERY touchy and upset when
    'outsiders' criticise their utopian constitutional Republic.

    I get touchy if they always criticise my country but never criticise, or
    even discuss, their own, or seem overly obsessed with my country's
    leadership. Otherwise, I feel they are free to their opinion. :)


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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to ANDEDDU on Fri Dec 4 11:24:00 2020
    We should, but we haven't really spoken about the UK because I don't think you >people know too much about it. The UK also doesn't have the clout that the USA >has in the international arena, so it's less relevant.

    Tell us more about it and we will know.


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  • From Vlk-451@VERT/INREALM to Andeddu on Fri Dec 4 18:52:40 2020
    Re: Re: Election
    By: Andeddu to Dr. What on Tue Dec 01 2020 02:09 am

    I don't think there's an argument to "win"... I am not here to argue over the interwebz with some dude located thousands of miles away from me.

    Then why are you posting in the "Debate" section of the boards?

    Hello?

    Gamer?

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  • From Vlk-451@VERT/INREALM to Andeddu on Fri Dec 4 19:18:53 2020
    Re: Re: Election
    By: Andeddu to Gamgee on Wed Dec 02 2020 06:24 pm

    Why get upset when you're on DOVE-NET of all places... this isn't even Facebook, Reddit, 4Chan or any form of relevant social media!

    Whao whao whaooooooo dude.

    Why have you gotta shit on DOVE-NET like that man? I think this place is relevant.

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  • From Vlk-451@VERT/INREALM to Gamgee on Fri Dec 4 19:23:03 2020
    Re: Re: Election
    By: Gamgee to Andeddu on Wed Dec 02 2020 08:03 pm

    Andeddu wrote to Gamgee <=-

    not even purposely trying to trigger you! Why get upset when
    you're on DOVE-NET of all places... this isn't even Facebook,
    Reddit, 4Chan or any form of relevant social media!

    Do you wear skinny-jeans and have a man-bun?

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  • From Vlk-451@VERT/INREALM to Nightfox on Fri Dec 4 19:23:49 2020
    Re: Re: Election
    By: Nightfox to Gamgee on Thu Dec 03 2020 08:30 am

    Hey, what's wrong with a man-bun? :P

    Everyone take note, this man is defending the man bun.

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  • From Vlk-451@VERT/INREALM to DaiTengu on Fri Dec 4 19:27:20 2020
    Re: Re: Election
    By: DaiTengu to Nightfox on Thu Dec 03 2020 08:35 pm

    Re: Re: Election
    By: Nightfox to Gamgee on Thu Dec 03 2020 08:30 am

    Do you wear skinny-jeans and have a man-bun?

    Hey, what's wrong with a man-bun? :P

    Everything.

    DaiTengu

    This guy gets it.

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  • From Andeddu@VERT/AMSTRAD to Nightfox on Sat Dec 5 13:23:24 2020
    Re: Re: Election
    By: Nightfox to Andeddu on Fri Dec 04 2020 09:24 am

    There seems to be a double standard and a bit of hypocrisy about that. People don't like when other people criticize their candidate/party of choice, but they're also quick to criticize the other candidate/party..

    Nightfox

    Absolutely. Both groups are as bad as each other. I do agree with certain Leftist views however I am more of a Conservative than anything, but I can see the double standard as clear as day. The Right get very sensitive whenever their political figures/policy is criticised as much as the Left complain and throw their toys out the pram whenever their's are criticised. It's the same with the Left always banging on about Right wing conspiracy theories when they're guilty of disseminating their own "Russian collusion" conspiracy theory for years and continue to do so after it being debunked.

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  • From Andeddu@VERT/AMSTRAD to Dumas Walker on Sat Dec 5 13:28:40 2020
    Re: Re: Election
    By: Dumas Walker to ANDEDDU on Fri Dec 04 2020 11:06 am

    I get touchy if they always criticise my country but never criticise, or even discuss, their own, or seem overly obsessed with my country's leadership. Otherwise, I feel they are free to their opinion. :)

    Feel free to criticise the UK. I will either defend it if I feel you are incorrect, or heartily agree with you. The USA is the most powerful and influential country in the world which is why it's being discussed by foreigners. My country doesn't appear to be able to push world policy... we are unable to even negotiate Brexit within a suitable timeframe.

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  • From Andeddu@VERT/AMSTRAD to Dumas Walker on Sat Dec 5 13:35:25 2020
    Re: Re: Election
    By: Dumas Walker to ANDEDDU on Fri Dec 04 2020 11:24 am

    Tell us more about it and we will know.

    The UK isn't particularly important on the world stage right now. MRO is right, there is no even partnership between our countries like during the Thatcher/Reagan era... since Blair, you have been the dog and we have been the tail.

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  • From Andeddu@VERT/AMSTRAD to Vlk-451 on Sat Dec 5 13:38:25 2020
    Re: Re: Election
    By: Vlk-451 to Andeddu on Fri Dec 04 2020 06:52 pm

    I don't think there's an argument to "win"... I am not here to argue over the interwebz with some dude located thousands of miles away from me.

    Then why are you posting in the "Debate" section of the boards?

    Debates aren't arguments.

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  • From Andeddu@VERT/AMSTRAD to Vlk-451 on Sat Dec 5 13:41:23 2020
    Re: Re: Election
    By: Vlk-451 to Andeddu on Fri Dec 04 2020 07:18 pm

    Why get upset when you're on DOVE-NET of all places... this isn't even Facebook, Reddit, 4Chan or any form of relevant social media!

    Whao whao whaooooooo dude.

    Why have you gotta shit on DOVE-NET like that man? I think this place is relevant.


    Yeah, it was relevant...




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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to NIGHTFOX on Sat Dec 5 10:19:00 2020
    There seems to be a double standard and a bit of hypocrisy about that. People >on't like when other people criticize their candidate/party of choice, but they
    re also quick to criticize the other candidate/party..

    True but, in this particular case, the person making the criticism has no candidate because they don't live here. People got angry because some
    Russians on FB were supposedly telling us who to vote for in our US election, so I think people here have just as much of a right to get upset when it seems someone who does not live in our country is trying to influence people politically.

    There are one or two in the FIDO Politics echo who do that for sure. Then there are others who express an opinion but also tell us about how things
    are going in their own country. I don't mind that as much.


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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Dumas Walker on Sat Dec 5 12:38:13 2020
    Re: Re: Election
    By: Dumas Walker to NIGHTFOX on Sat Dec 05 2020 10:19 am

    There seems to be a double standard and a bit of hypocrisy about that.
    People on't like when other people criticize their candidate/party of
    choice, but they re also quick to criticize the other candidate/party..

    True but, in this particular case, the person making the criticism has no candidate because they don't live here. People got angry because some

    I was replying to his comment that Trump supporters take it personally when he criticized Trump, when usually leftists tend to be known as snowflakes.

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  • From Vlk-451@VERT/INREALM to Andeddu on Sat Dec 5 13:31:34 2020
    Re: Re: Election
    By: Andeddu to Vlk-451 on Sat Dec 05 2020 01:38 pm

    Re: Re: Election
    By: Vlk-451 to Andeddu on Fri Dec 04 2020 06:52 pm

    I don't think there's an argument to "win"... I am not here to argue over the interwebz with some dude located thousands of miles away from me.

    Then why are you posting in the "Debate" section of the boards?

    Debates aren't arguments.

    From some article in a DuckDuckGo search:

    A 'debate', as a noun, is understood as a formal discussion between people or groups of people that is regulated. Interestingly, debates are considered based on 'arguments', which are lines of reasoning, support or evidence about a subject. However, a debate has the feeling of a larger, longer or more formal discussion. A formal debate may even be judged by a person or a panel of people, with one side winning the debate by providing the best lines of reasoning or support for the issue. For example, She argued that people should have the right to decide about their own medical care at the debate.

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  • From Vlk-451@VERT/INREALM to All on Sat Dec 5 13:33:18 2020
    Re: Re: Election
    By: Vlk-451 to Andeddu on Sat Dec 05 2020 01:31 pm

    I'm still howling over the fact that he told that dude he wore skinny jeans and a man bun. That was the funniest shit I've read in a week.

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Dumas Walker on Sat Dec 5 15:54:08 2020
    Re: Re: Election
    By: Dumas Walker to ANDEDDU on Fri Dec 04 2020 11:06 am

    I am defintely not anti-USA. On the contrary, I support the USA... but
    it can do better. It's just that certain people on here get VERY touchy
    and upset
    when
    'outsiders' criticise their utopian constitutional Republic.

    I get touchy if they always criticise my country but never criticise, or even discuss, their own, or seem overly obsessed with my country's leadership. Otherwise, I feel they are free to their opinion. :)



    if people from other countries criticize the usa it's usually because of their media is so sensationalized. they've been that way a lot longer than our media has been.
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  • From Al@VERT/TRMB to Andeddu on Sat Dec 5 13:34:28 2020
    Re: Re: Election
    By: Andeddu to Nightfox on Sat Dec 05 2020 01:23 pm

    It's the same with the Left always banging on about Right wing conspiracy
    theories when they're guilty of disseminating their own "Russian collusion" conspiracy theory for years and continue to do so after it being debunked.

    How was it debunked? Several including Roger Stone were convicted and sentenced for their crimes although Roger Stone never did his time because Donald Trump commuted his sentence and has now pardoned Michael Flynn. I don't know if Michael Flynn's pardon will stick since his case hasn't concluded yet.

    Russian collusion was never a conspiracy theory. A large number of people were convicted and sentenced for their roles.

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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Vlk-451 on Sat Dec 5 20:05:20 2020
    Re: The Man Bun Thing
    By: Vlk-451 to All on Sat Dec 05 2020 01:33 pm

    I'm still howling over the fact that he told that dude he wore skinny jeans and a man bun. That was the funniest shit I've read in a week.

    Yeah, that was really hilarious. Had me rolling on the floor laughing. I didn't know what to do with myself.

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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to ANDEDDU on Sun Dec 6 09:52:00 2020
    The UK isn't particularly important on the world stage right now. MRO is right,
    there is no even partnership between our countries like during the >Thatcher/Reagan era... since Blair, you have been the dog and we have been the >tail.

    Why do you suppose Blair (or the US) let it get that way?


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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to NIGHTFOX on Sun Dec 6 11:03:00 2020
    I was replying to his comment that Trump supporters take it personally when he >riticized Trump, when usually leftists tend to be known as snowflakes.

    While I know some people are upset, I have not seen any screaming or crying
    at a protest because Biden won. I have not seen people I thought were
    rational adults having breakdowns on FB because Biden won. Four years ago, there were examples all over. That is the first time I remember hearing snowflake used. Get back with me when those kind of emotional breakdowns
    start happening on as widespread of a basis and I may see your point.

    OTOH, soon we will see what happens when the late night folks start telling Biden jokes in place of Trump ones. I never watch the Daily Show but,
    based on the ads, Trevor Noah is going to have to get a lot funnier than he
    is. I never thought his Trump jokes were funny, but know people who did. The other day I saw one where he told Biden jokes. He is still not funny, and
    I doubt any Biden supporter will get a kick out of those jokes, either.


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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to MRO on Sun Dec 6 09:57:00 2020
    I get touchy if they always criticise my country but never criticise, or even discuss, their own, or seem overly obsessed with my country's leadership. Otherwise, I feel they are free to their opinion. :)

    if people from other countries criticize the usa it's usually because of their >edia is so sensationalized. they've been that way a lot longer than our media >as been.

    Yes, or they've been watching our media. It would be nice if the media
    would quit trying to compete with the cable news and the internet and just present the news for what it is and not the entertainment value.


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  • From Andeddu@VERT/AMSTRAD to Vlk-451 on Sun Dec 6 15:56:11 2020
    Re: Re: Election
    By: Vlk-451 to Andeddu on Sat Dec 05 2020 01:31 pm

    A 'debate', as a noun, is understood as a formal discussion between people or groups of people that is regulated. Interestingly, debates are considered based on 'arguments', which are lines of reasoning, support or evidence about a subject. However, a debate has the feeling of a larger, longer or more formal discussion. A formal debate may even be judged by a person or a panel of people, with one side winning the debate by providing the best lines of reasoning or support for the issue. For example, She argued that people should have the right to decide about their own medical care at the debate.

    A lot of the time certain posters here constitute a 'debate' as hurling insults at one another. I won't name names, but it's fairly evident who they are.

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  • From Andeddu@VERT/AMSTRAD to Vlk-451 on Sun Dec 6 16:02:16 2020
    Re: The Man Bun Thing
    By: Vlk-451 to All on Sat Dec 05 2020 01:33 pm

    I'm still howling over the fact that he told that dude he wore skinny jeans and a man bun. That was the funniest shit I've read in a week.


    Nah, a man bun is more of a Spanish thing. All our footballers who go to Spain like Gareth Bale end up going from skin on the sides and long at the top to a man bun.

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  • From Andeddu@VERT/AMSTRAD to MRO on Sun Dec 6 16:05:42 2020
    Re: Re: Election
    By: MRO to Dumas Walker on Sat Dec 05 2020 03:54 pm

    if people from other countries criticize the usa it's usually because of their media is so sensationalized. they've been that way a lot longer than our media has been.

    That's true. In the UK all you get is Trump bashing from the media. Even when he visited us all they banged on about was how much he was disrespecting our Queen, etc...

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  • From Andeddu@VERT/AMSTRAD to Al on Sun Dec 6 16:27:26 2020
    Re: Re: Election
    By: Al to Andeddu on Sat Dec 05 2020 01:34 pm

    How was it debunked? Several including Roger Stone were convicted and sentenced for their crimes although Roger Stone never did his time because Donald Trump commuted his sentence and has now pardoned Michael Flynn. I don't know if Michael Flynn's pardon will stick since his case hasn't concluded yet.

    Russian collusion was never a conspiracy theory. A large number of people were convicted and sentenced for their roles.

    Last I checked, which was a long time ago, the Mueller Report returned with no sufficient evidence in relation to a Trump-Russia conspiracy.

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  • From Al@VERT/TRMB to Andeddu on Sun Dec 6 15:15:24 2020
    Re: Re: Election
    By: Andeddu to Al on Sun Dec 06 2020 04:27 pm

    Russian collusion was never a conspiracy theory. A large number of
    people were convicted and sentenced for their roles.

    Last I checked, which was a long time ago, the Mueller Report returned with no sufficient evidence in relation to a Trump-Russia conspiracy.

    The Mueller investigation was never about charging Donald Trump since he was a sitting president at the time, but it never exonerated him either.

    https://youtu.be/HMp9_f-jxDw

    Mueller himself said that Donald Trump could be charged with obstruction based on what he saw.

    https://youtu.be/wDBBSLqLhT4

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  • From Arelor@VERT/PALANT to Dumas Walker on Sun Dec 6 17:36:55 2020
    Re: Re: Election
    By: Dumas Walker to NIGHTFOX on Sun Dec 06 2020 11:03 am

    While I know some people are upset, I have not seen any screaming or crying at a protest because Biden won. I have not seen people I thought were rational adults having breakdowns on FB because Biden won. Four years ago,

    As far as I am aware, who won has not been settled at all.

    I am not following the events *that*c closely but investigations regarding contested votes are turning interesting things. Like those machines that were scannign votes and assigning them to the wrong party, or people caught scanning the same set of votes multiple times.

    My mother was running numbers earlier this morning and told me none of the candidates has votes enough to become elect president once you substract the votes that are under non-baseless investigation.

    In fact I find it disturbing when a lot of media is reporting that things are settled and Trump is conceeding. Specially because somebody showed me a headline from a Spanish journal which claimed Trump was conceeding while Trump himself was posting he didn't on Twitter.
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  • From Andeddu@VERT/AMSTRAD to Dumas Walker on Mon Dec 7 12:27:35 2020
    Re: Re: Election
    By: Dumas Walker to ANDEDDU on Sun Dec 06 2020 09:52 am

    Why do you suppose Blair (or the US) let it get that way?


    I don't know. Perhaps it was to do with Blair not having a forceful or particularly strong personality. He was allegedly pushed around by Gordon Brown, his Chancellor, while he was Prime Minister. Bush wasn't really in awe with him either... I still recall the "Yo, Blair!" incident, haha.

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  • From Andeddu@VERT/AMSTRAD to Al on Mon Dec 7 12:42:17 2020
    Re: Re: Election
    By: Al to Andeddu on Sun Dec 06 2020 03:15 pm

    The Mueller investigation was never about charging Donald Trump since he was a sitting president at the time, but it never exonerated him either.

    https://youtu.be/HMp9_f-jxDw

    Mueller himself said that Donald Trump could be charged with obstruction based on what he saw.

    https://youtu.be/wDBBSLqLhT4

    I don't know enough about the investigation because I considered it too tedious to pay attention to. I only saw that the Mueller Report returned with non-sufficency to prove a definitive connection. I don't know how Russia could influence an election in any meaningful and widespread way. I know they would surely have tried, but that's par for the course in international politics. Every country tries to meddle in every other country's elections. I don't doubt there's a realistic possibility Trump could be charged with something but it would be similar charges to Roger Stone and Michael Flynn. Those were obstruction charges, or similar, not charges of conspiracy and collusion.

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  • From Andeddu@VERT/AMSTRAD to Arelor on Mon Dec 7 12:54:36 2020
    Re: Re: Election
    By: Arelor to Dumas Walker on Sun Dec 06 2020 05:36 pm

    As far as I am aware, who won has not been settled at all.

    I am not following the events *that*c closely but investigations regarding contested votes are turning interesting things. Like those machines that were scannign votes and assigning them to the wrong party, or people caught scanning the same set of votes multiple times.

    My mother was running numbers earlier this morning and told me none of the candidates has votes enough to become elect president once you substract the votes that are under non-baseless investigation.

    In fact I find it disturbing when a lot of media is reporting that things are settled and Trump is conceeding. Specially because somebody showed me a headline from a Spanish journal which claimed Trump was conceeding while Trump himself was posting he didn't on Twitter.

    Did you see the CCTV footage of the Georgia count? It looks pretty damning to me. They apparently debunked any foul play shortly after the election due to the absence of CCTV footage, however the recent revelation of the footage will require much explanation.

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  • From Al@VERT/TRMB to Andeddu on Mon Dec 7 08:44:30 2020
    Re: Re: Election
    By: Andeddu to Al on Mon Dec 07 2020 12:42 pm

    I don't know enough about the investigation because I considered it too tedious to pay attention to.

    It is tedious, much like the current stolen election thread but I think it's important to have and look at the facts.

    I only saw that the Mueller Report returned with non-sufficency to prove a definitive connection.

    That's what Bill Barr had to say but Mueller contradicted his conclusion

    I don't know how Russia could influence an election in any meaningful and widespread way. I know they would surely have tried, but that's par for the course in international politics. Every country tries to meddle in every other country's elections.

    Social media is one of the main ways today. It's a great way to spread lies and misinformation.

    I don't doubt there's a realistic possibility Trump could be charged with something

    Obstruction at least. It's unclear if he had a direct role in that. I think he simply used people like Roger Stone and Michael Flynn to get his deeds done.

    but it would be similar charges to Roger Stone and Michael Flynn. Those were obstruction charges, or similar, not charges of conspiracy and collusion.

    Roger Stone and Michael Flynn were involved in a conspiracy and collusion. Roger Stone was charged with seven felonies and convicted on all counts. They involved lying to congress and witness tampering.

    When Michael Flynn's involvement was discovered he pleaded guilty and cooperated with the investigation. Later he changed his mind and wanted to change his plea to not guilty. His cases has not yet concluded.

    There is a large number of folks, American and otherwise that were convicted of crimes related to the Russia investigation. Most will not be considered for a presidential pardon.

    There is no conspiracy theory here.

    Ttyl :-),
    Al

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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to ARELOR on Mon Dec 7 11:54:00 2020
    My mother was running numbers earlier this morning and told me none of the candidates has votes enough to become elect president once you substract the votes that are under non-baseless investigation.

    Some of that is not actually true. Some of the other accusations, though,
    are things that have been caught on video. The explanations of what was
    caught is always a basic "no evidence of any fraud has been found." They
    don't explain what is going on in the videos. I would be much more
    satisfied with "we looked into this and what the tape shows is (a shift change/people being sent home who could not work overtime/something else
    that makes sense), and does not show anything fradulent going on."

    But that is not the explanation that is making it out into the press, which does make it seem suspicious. They need to do a better job of explaining
    "no evidence." All they are doing by not doing so is helping Trump keeps
    his base stirred up.


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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to ANDEDDU on Tue Dec 8 13:35:00 2020
    Did you see the CCTV footage of the Georgia count? It looks pretty damning to me. They apparently debunked any foul play shortly after the election due to the absence of CCTV footage, however the recent revelation of the footage will
    require much explanation.

    They are trying to debunk that with the standard "no evidence of fraud"
    line but, IMHO, they could really shoot Trump down by actually looking into that instance and giving a brief explanation as to what the video shows.


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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to Andeddu on Tue Dec 8 16:11:24 2020
    I don't know enough about the investigation because I considered it too tedious to pay attention to. I only saw that the Mueller Report returned with non-sufficency to prove a definitive connection. I don't know how Russia could influence an election in any meaningful and widespread way. I know they would surely have tried, but that's par for the course in international politics. Every country tries to meddle in every other country's elections. I don't doubt there's a realistic possibility Trump could be charged with something but it would be similar charges to Roger Stone and Michael Flynn. Those were obstruction charges, or similar, not charges of conspiracy and collusion.

    Be careful. Some who will respond to you, saying they know all about it actually have as much (or less) of a grasp on it than you do.
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  • From Dennisk@VERT/EOTLBBS to Dumas Walker on Wed Dec 9 21:07:00 2020
    Dumas Walker wrote to ANDEDDU <=-

    Did you see the CCTV footage of the Georgia count? It looks pretty damning
    to
    me. They apparently debunked any foul play shortly after the election due to the absence of CCTV footage, however the recent revelation of the footage
    will

    require much explanation.

    They are trying to debunk that with the standard "no evidence of fraud" line but, IMHO, they could really shoot Trump down by actually looking into that instance and giving a brief explanation as to what the video shows.

    It seems odd how easily some are willing to dismiss fraud, but have no alternative explanation. Its like they've stopped trying to maintain a veneer of credibility now.

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  • From Al@VERT/TRMB to Dennisk on Wed Dec 9 05:27:10 2020
    Re: Re: Election
    By: Dennisk to Dumas Walker on Wed Dec 09 2020 09:07 pm

    It seems odd how easily some are willing to dismiss fraud, but have no alternative explanation. Its like they've stopped trying to maintain a veneer of credibility now.

    The allegations of fraud were never dismissed. This election has been looked over time and again. There have been hearings and investigations but never any real evidence of a stolen election.

    Here in the message areas we can make any kind of claims we want and argue day and night.

    In a court if you make allegations you have to have proof and none has been provided.

    Ttyl :-),
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  • From Ogg@VERT/EOTLBBS to All on Wed Dec 9 09:02:00 2020
    Hello Al!

    ** On Wednesday 09.12.20 - 08:27, al wrote to Dennisk:

    It seems odd how easily some are willing to dismiss fraud, but have no De>> alternative explanation. Its like they've stopped trying to maintain a De>> veneer of credibility now.

    The allegations of fraud were never dismissed. This election has been looked over time and again. There have been hearings and investigations but never any real evidence of a stolen election.

    Here in the message areas we can make any kind of claims we want and argue day and night.

    In a court if you make allegations you have to have proof and none has been provided.

    I thought that in situations like this the obvious step would
    be to "launch an inquiry". That process would allow the
    seeking of evidence - wouldn't it?

    Inquiries are designed to facilitate the processes to access
    records, films, documents, and scrutinize everything.

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  • From HusTler@VERT/HAVENS to Dennisk on Wed Dec 9 07:45:41 2020
    Re: Re: Election
    By: Dennisk to Dumas Walker on Wed Dec 09 2020 09:07 pm

    It seems odd how easily some are willing to dismiss fraud, but have no alternative explanation. Its like they've stopped trying to maintain a vene of credibility now.

    Because the whole system is Freudulent. What would they do if they allowed it? Toss out the entire election? Preidents are just puppets. They are really not that important and do not have the power people believe they have. It's time to move on.

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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to DENNISK on Wed Dec 9 13:15:00 2020
    They are trying to debunk that with the standard "no evidence of fraud" line but, IMHO, they could really shoot Trump down by actually looking into that instance and giving a brief explanation as to what the video shows.

    It seems odd how easily some are willing to dismiss fraud, but have no >alternative explanation. Its like they've stopped trying to maintain a veneer >of credibility now.

    Yes, that is it, like they've stopped trying.

    It would not take much effort at all to give decent explanations for all of
    the stuff that has made it on video. Doing so would completely kick the
    feet out from under the claims that Trump and his team are making. It
    seems like such an easy thing to do for anyone trying to be credible.

    It is how I would handle it, unless I realized something really was going
    on in the videos. Not being a politician, I would still handle it that way even if it was bad news.


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  • From Al@VERT/TRMB to Ogg on Wed Dec 9 14:37:44 2020
    Re: Re: Election
    By: Ogg to All on Wed Dec 09 2020 09:02 am

    I thought that in situations like this the obvious step would
    be to "launch an inquiry". That process would allow the
    seeking of evidence - wouldn't it?

    There have been an continues to be so many enquiries, all out in the open for everyone to see.

    The votes have been counted and recounted in many of the swing states. Election authorities and governors in those states have not thrown out the election results even when invited to the white house for talks with Donald Trump because they have held free and fair elections in those states and the people have spoken.

    Why would they do otherwise?

    Inquiries are designed to facilitate the processes to access
    records, films, documents, and scrutinize everything.

    Texas has taken other states to court, the supreme court, because the people in those states choose differently than the people in their state! I might call that hilarious but it's not funny.

    This could only happen in Donald Trumps world. No other president has talked of rigged elections the way Donald Trump has ever since he decided to run in the 2016 election. That's his and now the GOP narrative.

    Ttyl :-),
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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to AL on Wed Dec 9 15:49:00 2020
    It seems odd how easily some are willing to dismiss fraud, but have no alternative explanation. Its like they've stopped trying to maintain a veneer of credibility now.

    The allegations of fraud were never dismissed. This election has been looked ov
    r time and again. There have been hearings and investigations but never any rea
    evidence of a stolen election.

    The only explanation of the allegation we are talking about, the one
    actually caught on tape, so far has been a public parroting of "no evidence."

    If they want to be transparent and kick the legs out from under Trump, they would explain it better than that. Dennis is correct. They don't want to provide an explanation.

    Just a few months ago, something else got caught on tape that everyone
    wanted an explanation for. The Minneapolis cops could not explain it
    because there was no legitimate explanation for it. They screwed up bad
    and everyone knew it.

    The potential crime is much different, but this explanation is just as bad.


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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to OGG on Wed Dec 9 15:50:00 2020
    I thought that in situations like this the obvious step would
    be to "launch an inquiry". That process would allow the
    seeking of evidence - wouldn't it?

    Inquiries are designed to facilitate the processes to access
    records, films, documents, and scrutinize everything.

    Not if it is against a D or the D organization. If it is against them, we
    need to sweep it under the rug ASAP.


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  • From Al@VERT/TRMB to Dumas Walker on Wed Dec 9 19:48:13 2020
    Re: Re: Election
    By: Dumas Walker to AL on Wed Dec 09 2020 03:49 pm

    If they want to be transparent

    Where is this lack of transparency?

    and kick the legs out from under Trump, they would explain it better than that. Dennis is correct. They don't want to provide an explanation.

    There was an election, the votes were counted and Joe Biden was declared the winner of that election.

    Those votes have since been recounted in a number of cases and election officials have certified the election. Does Joe Biden now need to prove that he won that election?

    Ttyl :-),
    Al

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  • From Dennisk@VERT/EOTLBBS to Al on Thu Dec 10 21:03:00 2020
    Al wrote to Dennisk <=-

    Re: Re: Election
    By: Dennisk to Dumas Walker on Wed Dec 09 2020 09:07 pm

    It seems odd how easily some are willing to dismiss fraud, but have no alternative explanation. Its like they've stopped trying to maintain a veneer of credibility now.

    The allegations of fraud were never dismissed. This election has been looked over time and again. There have been hearings and investigations but never any real evidence of a stolen election.

    Here in the message areas we can make any kind of claims we want and
    argue day and night.

    In a court if you make allegations you have to have proof and none has been provided.

    Isn't the whole point of being an investigative journalist, to look into it?

    That is my point, journalists weren't interested in digging into the claims. They were merely dismissed.

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  • From Dennisk@VERT/EOTLBBS to Dumas Walker on Thu Dec 10 21:06:00 2020
    Dumas Walker wrote to DENNISK <=-

    They are trying to debunk that with the standard "no evidence of fraud" line but, IMHO, they could really shoot Trump down by actually looking into that instance and giving a brief explanation as to what the video shows.

    It seems odd how easily some are willing to dismiss fraud, but have no
    alternative explanation. Its like they've stopped trying to maintain a veneer
    of credibility now.

    Yes, that is it, like they've stopped trying.

    It would not take much effort at all to give decent explanations for
    all of the stuff that has made it on video. Doing so would completely kick the feet out from under the claims that Trump and his team are making. It seems like such an easy thing to do for anyone trying to be credible.

    It is how I would handle it, unless I realized something really was
    going on in the videos. Not being a politician, I would still handle
    it that way even if it was bad news.

    At the very least, you want want to act in a way which affirms people faith in the democratic process. If people believe that the democratic process doesn't work, then investigating and reporting an explanation for the claims of anomalies would restore faith. And that is IMPORTANT, because we consider free and fair elections something worthy to die and to kill for.

    Even if the claims aren't justified, the 'ruling elite' have an obligation to assure the public, by means of evidence and careful debunking by providing better explanations of what is going on.


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  • From Al@VERT/TRMB to Dennisk on Thu Dec 10 09:31:37 2020
    Re: Re: Election
    By: Dennisk to Al on Thu Dec 10 2020 09:03 pm

    Isn't the whole point of being an investigative journalist, to look into it?

    Journalists will continue to journalize.

    That is my point, journalists weren't interested in digging into the claims. They were merely dismissed.

    Dismissed how? There have been so many hearings and court cases.

    This whole election fraud thing is simply fake news. Donald Trump is having his digs at Mar-a-lago updated in advance of his arrival, even he knows the truth.
    Hopefully this will be his last grift.

    Ttyl :-),
    Al

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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to AL on Thu Dec 10 13:19:00 2020
    If they want to be transparent

    Where is this lack of transparency?

    and kick the legs out from under Trump, they would explain it better than
    that. Dennis is correct. They don't want to provide an explanation.

    There was an election, the votes were counted and Joe Biden was declared the w
    ner of that election.

    You may need to be tested for a reading comprehension issue. We were discussing a specific, RECENT video that surfaced which shows some election officials apparently being sent out of a room, and then the remaining ones pulling a bunch of ballot containers out from under a covered table and
    running them through the machines.

    I mentioned that it was a specific incident in the message you half-quoted above.

    There was no explanation or transparency beyound the default "no evidence" line. Like I have said more than once, if they know it is not fraud, give
    an actual explanation and kick Trump's legs out from under him.

    "No evidence" is a BS answer that government folks give when they don't
    want to explain something. It is also how conspiracy theories start.


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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to DENNISK on Thu Dec 10 13:21:00 2020
    At the very least, you want want to act in a way which affirms people faith in >the democratic process. If people believe that the democratic process doesn't >work, then investigating and reporting an explanation for the claims of >anomalies would restore faith. And that is IMPORTANT, because we consider free
    and fair elections something worthy to die and to kill for.

    Exactly.

    Even if the claims aren't justified, the 'ruling elite' have an obligation to >assure the public, by means of evidence and careful debunking by providing >better explanations of what is going on.

    Some people, like the ones who dismiss everything they don't believe as a "conspiracy theory," are happy enough with the little box that shows up
    after each election-related FB or YT post that tells them everything is OK.
    I would prefer something a little more than a social media company's word for it.


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  • From Al@VERT/TRMB to Dumas Walker on Thu Dec 10 15:47:37 2020
    Re: Re: Election
    By: Dumas Walker to AL on Thu Dec 10 2020 01:19 pm

    You may need to be tested for a reading comprehension issue.

    Sorry you must have fallen behind again.

    We were discussing a specific, RECENT video that surfaced which shows some election officials apparently being sent out of a room, and then the remaining ones pulling a bunch of ballot containers out from under a covered table and running them through the machines.

    OK, good. You can keep taking about that if you want.

    "No evidence" is a BS answer that government folks give when they don't want to explain something. It is also how conspiracy theories start.

    No evidence is no evidence. It's made of the same BS as a conspiracy theory.

    Ttyl :-),
    Al

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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to AL on Fri Dec 11 11:36:00 2020
    No evidence is no evidence. It's made of the same BS as a conspiracy theory.

    There is video evidence with no explanation given.

    I guess next you will tell us all that the Fang Fang/Chinese spy issue is a conspiracy theory because Nancy P. says it was no big deal?

    What about Hunter's China dealings? That was a conspiracy theory, too, until CNN started reporting earlier this week that he is indeed under
    investigation, just like others reported he was before the election back in October.


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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to AL on Fri Dec 11 11:41:00 2020
    This whole election fraud thing is simply fake news. Donald Trump is having his
    digs at Mar-a-lago updated in advance of his arrival, even he knows the truth. >Hopefully this will be his last grift.

    WAIT, but I know that you believe that "fake news" doesn't exist, just like
    the Easter Bunny, "Antifa," and "the Deep State."

    "All news is news" and "Trump made up fake news" -- I remember that.


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  • From Al@VERT/TRMB to Dumas Walker on Fri Dec 11 16:22:20 2020
    Re: Re: Election
    By: Dumas Walker to AL on Fri Dec 11 2020 11:36 am

    There is video evidence with no explanation given.

    That video, like so many supplied by the right has been debunked.

    Ttyl :-),
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  • From Al@VERT/TRMB to Dumas Walker on Fri Dec 11 16:34:40 2020
    Re: Re: Election
    By: Dumas Walker to AL on Fri Dec 11 2020 11:41 am

    WAIT, but I know that you believe

    How do you know what I believe?

    that "fake news" doesn't exist, just like the Easter Bunny, "Antifa," and "the Deep State."

    Fake news is nothing new. Liars and cheats have existed since the beginning.

    In spite of that the truth is available to you, if you care for truth.

    Ttyl :-),
    Al

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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to AL on Sat Dec 12 10:30:00 2020
    There is video evidence with no explanation given.

    That video, like so many supplied by the right has been debunked.

    PUSU - show us where.


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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to AL on Sat Dec 12 09:25:00 2020
    WAIT, but I know that you believe

    How do you know what I believe?

    Because you've told us before and I have a decent memory. Not great, but decent.

    that "fake news" doesn't exist, just like the Easter Bunny, "Antifa," and
    "the Deep State."

    Fake news is nothing new. Liars and cheats have existed since the beginning.

    So now it DOES exist. Hmmm....


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  • From Al@VERT/TRMB to Dumas Walker on Sat Dec 12 12:11:47 2020
    Re: Re: Election
    By: Dumas Walker to AL on Sat Dec 12 2020 09:25 am

    Fake news is nothing new. Liars and cheats have existed since the
    beginning.

    So now it DOES exist. Hmmm....

    It's always existed. Get it?

    Ttyl :-),
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  • From Al@VERT/TRMB to Dumas Walker on Sat Dec 12 12:22:13 2020
    Re: Re: Election
    By: Dumas Walker to AL on Sat Dec 12 2020 10:30 am

    That video, like so many supplied by the right has been debunked.

    PUSU - show us where.

    Ok, show me the link and we'll go from there.

    Ttyl :-),
    Al

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  • From D-Generate@VERT/HAVENS to Dumas Walker on Tue Dec 15 20:58:15 2020
    Re: Re: Election
    By: Dumas Walker to AL on Sat Dec 12 2020 10:30 am

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  • From Vlk-451@VERT/INREALM to Nightfox on Fri Dec 18 09:38:16 2020
    Re: The Man Bun Thing
    By: Nightfox to Vlk-451 on Sat Dec 05 2020 08:05 pm

    Re: The Man Bun Thing
    By: Vlk-451 to All on Sat Dec 05 2020 01:33 pm

    I'm still howling over the fact that he told that dude he wore skinny jeans and a man bun. That was the funniest shit I've read in a week.

    Yeah, that was really hilarious. Had me rolling on the floor laughing. I didn't know what to do with myself.

    Nightfox

    Well, did you clip the man bun and look for cargo pants at wal-mart?

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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Vlk-451 on Sun Dec 20 20:58:13 2020
    Re: The Man Bun Thing
    By: Vlk-451 to Nightfox on Fri Dec 18 2020 09:38 am

    Well, did you clip the man bun and look for cargo pants at wal-mart?

    I don't have a man bun and don't have any cargo pants either..

    Nightfox

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  • From Vlk-451@VERT/INREALM to Andeddu on Sun Dec 27 18:44:00 2020
    Re: Re: Election
    By: Andeddu to Vlk-451 on Sun Dec 06 2020 08:56 pm

    Re: Re: Election
    By: Vlk-451 to Andeddu on Sat Dec 05 2020 01:31 pm

    A 'debate', as a noun, is understood as a formal discussion between people or groups of people that is regulated. Interestingly, debates are considered based on 'arguments', which are lines of reasoning, support or evidence about a subject. However, a debate has the feeling of a larger, longer or more formal discussion. A formal debate may even be judged by a person or a panel of people, with one side winning the debate by providing the best lines of reasoning or support for the issue. For example, She argued that people should have the right to decide about their own medical care at the debate.

    A lot of the time certain posters here constitute a 'debate' as hurling insults at one another. I won't name names, but it's fairly evident who they are.

    I'm honestly here to kick back and watch, munching on popcorn. I hope not to contribute to that too much, but holy fuck if some of it isn't funny as hell.

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  • From Vlk-451@VERT/INREALM to Andeddu on Mon Dec 28 01:41:55 2020
    Re: The Man Bun Thing
    By: Andeddu to Vlk-451 on Sun Dec 06 2020 09:02 pm

    Re: The Man Bun Thing
    By: Vlk-451 to All on Sat Dec 05 2020 01:33 pm

    I'm still howling over the fact that he told that dude he wore skinny jeans and a man bun. That was the funniest shit I've read in a week.


    Nah, a man bun is more of a Spanish thing. All our footballers who go to Spain like Gareth Bale end up going from skin on the sides and long at the top to a man bun.

    That is the popular trend. I don't get it. It's like balding in reverse.

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  • From Vlk-451@VERT/INREALM to HusTler on Mon Dec 28 01:51:41 2020
    Re: Re: Election
    By: HusTler to Dennisk on Wed Dec 09 2020 12:45 pm

    Re: Re: Election
    By: Dennisk to Dumas Walker on Wed Dec 09 2020 09:07 pm

    It seems odd how easily some are willing to dismiss fraud, but have no alternative explanation. Its like they've stopped trying to maintain a vene of credibility now.

    Because the whole system is Freudulent. What would they do if they allowed it? Toss out the entire election? Preidents are just puppets. They are really not that important and do not have the power people believe they have. It's time to move on.

    |03 HusTler

    This.

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  • From Vlk-451@VERT/INREALM to Dennisk on Mon Dec 28 01:53:27 2020
    Re: Re: Election
    By: Dennisk to Al on Fri Dec 11 2020 02:03 am

    Al wrote to Dennisk <=-

    Re: Re: Election
    By: Dennisk to Dumas Walker on Wed Dec 09 2020 09:07 pm

    It seems odd how easily some are willing to dismiss fraud, but have no alternative explanation. Its like they've stopped trying to maintain a veneer of credibility now.

    The allegations of fraud were never dismissed. This election has been looked over time and again. There have been hearings and investigations but never any real evidence of a stolen election.

    Here in the message areas we can make any kind of claims we want and argue day and night.

    In a court if you make allegations you have to have proof and none has been provided.

    Isn't the whole point of being an investigative journalist, to look into it?

    That is my point, journalists weren't interested in digging into the claims. They were merely dismissed.

    Can't be a journalist if no one will publish your "Conspiracies" and you loose all your contacts in the industry. Learned that the hard way in the games industry.

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  • From Vlk-451@VERT/INREALM to Nightfox on Mon Dec 28 02:13:36 2020
    Re: The Man Bun Thing
    By: Nightfox to Vlk-451 on Sun Dec 20 2020 08:58 pm

    Re: The Man Bun Thing
    By: Vlk-451 to Nightfox on Fri Dec 18 2020 09:38 am

    Well, did you clip the man bun and look for cargo pants at wal-mart?

    I don't have a man bun and don't have any cargo pants either..

    I honestly prefer Jeans, so I feel you there.

    In fact, I do own and enjoy a few pairs of Skinny Jeans myself.

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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Vlk-451 on Sun Dec 27 20:24:30 2020
    Re: The Man Bun Thing
    By: Vlk-451 to Nightfox on Mon Dec 28 2020 02:13 am

    I don't have a man bun and don't have any cargo pants either..

    I honestly prefer Jeans, so I feel you there.

    In fact, I do own and enjoy a few pairs of Skinny Jeans myself.

    I tend to like khaki pants. I suppose this might be surprising, but I've never really worn jeans myself. For some reason, jeans just never really caught on with me.

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Nightfox on Sun Dec 27 23:39:52 2020
    Re: The Man Bun Thing
    By: Nightfox to Vlk-451 on Sun Dec 27 2020 08:24 pm

    In fact, I do own and enjoy a few pairs of Skinny Jeans myself.

    how can a man enjoy skinny jeans?!

    I tend to like khaki pants. I suppose this might be surprising, but I've never really worn jeans myself. For some reason, jeans just never really caught on with me.

    you must be a fatty.

    anyways, i like carpenter jeans. and they come in all colors. i like the fit since i have football player thighs. or basketball player thighs since i was a ball player.
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  • From Vlk-451@VERT/THEWASTE to MRO on Mon Dec 28 08:08:29 2020
    Re: The Man Bun Thing
    By: MRO to Nightfox on Sun Dec 27 2020 11:39 pm

    Re: The Man Bun Thing
    By: Nightfox to Vlk-451 on Sun Dec 27 2020 08:24 pm

    In fact, I do own and enjoy a few pairs of Skinny Jeans myself.

    how can a man enjoy skinny jeans?!

    I lost a lot of weight and was just excited to try a few pairs out now that my legs don't chafe from my fat rubbing together when walking.

    I tend to get the kind with the strechy material built into it so it's not quite as bad as leather or pure denim.

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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to MRO on Mon Dec 28 08:23:30 2020
    Re: The Man Bun Thing
    By: MRO to Nightfox on Sun Dec 27 2020 11:39 pm

    I tend to like khaki pants. I suppose this might be surprising, but
    I've never really worn jeans myself. For some reason, jeans just
    never really caught on with me.

    you must be a fatty.

    I don't know where that idea come from (I see large people wearing jeans all the time), but that has nothing to do with it.. I just never really liked the style of jeans.

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  • From Vlk-451@VERT/INREALM to Nightfox on Mon Dec 28 16:00:16 2020
    Re: The Man Bun Thing
    By: Nightfox to Vlk-451 on Sun Dec 27 2020 08:24 pm

    Re: The Man Bun Thing
    By: Vlk-451 to Nightfox on Mon Dec 28 2020 02:13 am

    I don't have a man bun and don't have any cargo pants either..

    I honestly prefer Jeans, so I feel you there.

    In fact, I do own and enjoy a few pairs of Skinny Jeans myself.

    I tend to like khaki pants. I suppose this might be surprising, but I've never really worn jeans myself. For some reason, jeans just never really caught on with me.

    You should try the modern strechy kind. They're hardly even denim.

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  • From Vlk-451@VERT/THEWASTE to Nightfox on Mon Dec 28 10:56:54 2020
    Re: The Man Bun Thing
    By: Nightfox to MRO on Mon Dec 28 2020 08:23 am

    Re: The Man Bun Thing
    By: MRO to Nightfox on Sun Dec 27 2020 11:39 pm

    I tend to like khaki pants. I suppose this might be surprising, but
    I've never really worn jeans myself. For some reason, jeans just
    never really caught on with me.

    you must be a fatty.

    I don't know where that idea come from (I see large people wearing jeans all the time), but that has nothing to do with it.. I just never really liked the style of jeans.

    Nightfox

    When I was my largest, I still loved jeans. It's always liked them, mostly because for the longest time Uniform codes wouldn't let me wear them, so it was my way of saying fuck you to the man.

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Vlk-451 on Mon Dec 28 20:01:36 2020
    Re: The Man Bun Thing
    By: Vlk-451 to Nightfox on Mon Dec 28 2020 04:00 pm


    I tend to like khaki pants. I suppose this might be surprising, but
    I've never really worn jeans myself. For some reason, jeans just
    never really caught on with me.

    You should try the modern strechy kind. They're hardly even denim.

    i thought that shit was for women.
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  • From Gamgee@VERT/PALANT to Vlk-451 on Mon Dec 28 19:44:00 2020
    Vlk-451 wrote to MRO <=-

    In fact, I do own and enjoy a few pairs of Skinny Jeans myself.

    how can a man enjoy skinny jeans?!

    An actual "man" can't.

    I lost a lot of weight and was just excited to try a few pairs
    out now that my legs don't chafe from my fat rubbing together
    when walking.

    I tend to get the kind with the strechy material built into it so
    it's not quite as bad as leather or pure denim.

    So they're actually girl's yoga pants?

    No pics, please.



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  • From Vlk-451@VERT/INREALM to MRO on Tue Dec 29 03:31:05 2020
    Re: The Man Bun Thing
    By: MRO to Vlk-451 on Mon Dec 28 2020 08:01 pm

    Re: The Man Bun Thing
    By: Vlk-451 to Nightfox on Mon Dec 28 2020 04:00 pm


    I tend to like khaki pants. I suppose this might be surprising, but
    I've never really worn jeans myself. For some reason, jeans just
    never really caught on with me.

    You should try the modern strechy kind. They're hardly even denim.

    i thought that shit was for women.

    They make them in mens cuts. It's all the same shit.

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  • From Vlk-451@VERT/INREALM to Gamgee on Tue Dec 29 03:38:15 2020
    Re: Re: The Man Bun Thing
    By: Gamgee to Vlk-451 on Mon Dec 28 2020 07:44 pm

    Vlk-451 wrote to MRO <=-

    In fact, I do own and enjoy a few pairs of Skinny Jeans myself.

    how can a man enjoy skinny jeans?!

    An actual "man" can't.

    I lost a lot of weight and was just excited to try a few pairs
    out now that my legs don't chafe from my fat rubbing together
    when walking.

    I tend to get the kind with the strechy material built into it so
    it's not quite as bad as leather or pure denim.

    So they're actually girl's yoga pants?

    No pics, please.

    They're still denim, they're just laced with a ploy-weave. The shit falls appart after too many washes, but is great while new.

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  • From Gamgee@VERT/PALANT to Vlk-451 on Tue Dec 29 07:52:00 2020
    Vlk-451 wrote to MRO <=-

    I tend to like khaki pants. I suppose this might be surprising, but
    I've never really worn jeans myself. For some reason, jeans just
    never really caught on with me.

    You should try the modern strechy kind. They're hardly even denim.

    i thought that shit was for women.

    It is.

    They make them in mens cuts. It's all the same shit.

    I don't think they do. In your confusion you are probably shopping in
    the Women's Plus-size department and think those are "mens cuts"...

    The more you describe yourself, I'm POSITIVE you have a man-bun.

    I use the term "man" loosely.



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  • From Vlk-451@VERT/INREALM to Gamgee on Tue Dec 29 15:36:40 2020
    Re: Re: The Man Bun Thing
    By: Gamgee to Vlk-451 on Tue Dec 29 2020 07:52 am

    Vlk-451 wrote to MRO <=-
    You should try the modern strechy kind. They're hardly even denim.

    i thought that shit was for women.

    It is.

    They make them in mens cuts. It's all the same shit.

    I don't think they do. In your confusion you are probably shopping in
    the Women's Plus-size department and think those are "mens cuts"...

    The more you describe yourself, I'm POSITIVE you have a man-bun.

    I use the term "man" loosely.

    I mean, my hair is cut too short to have a bun like that. In fact, there's a clip of me reading one of your posts, so if you wanted to get your sick and twisted kicks judging some 'kid' in his 20's, by all means, watch the clip.

    As it turns out, I'm just a dude.

    https://www.twitch.tv/greytide13/clip/MoistSleepyTapirTheRinger

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  • From Ogg@VERT/EOTLBBS to Vlk-451 on Thu Dec 31 22:23:53 2020
    Hello Vlk-451!

    ** On Monday 28.12.20 - 01:41, vlk-451 wrote to Andeddu:

    Nah, a man bun is more of a Spanish thing. All our footballers
    who go to Spain like Gareth Bale end up going from skin on the
    sides and long at the top to a man bun.

    That is the popular trend. I don't get it. It's like balding in
    reverse.

    Vikings inspired fans? Just google for Vikings tv series and then select images. The people were tough and worshipped demi-gods.

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  • From Vlk-451@VERT/INREALM to Ogg on Tue Jan 5 03:00:34 2021
    Re: Re: The Man Bun Thing
    By: Ogg to Vlk-451 on Thu Dec 31 2020 10:23 pm

    Hello Vlk-451!

    ** On Monday 28.12.20 - 01:41, vlk-451 wrote to Andeddu:

    Nah, a man bun is more of a Spanish thing. All our footballers
    who go to Spain like Gareth Bale end up going from skin on the
    sides and long at the top to a man bun.

    That is the popular trend. I don't get it. It's like balding in
    reverse.

    Vikings inspired fans? Just google for Vikings tv series and then select images. The people were tough and worshipped demi-gods.

    I think it has more to do with Skrillex starting a trend.

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  • From Denn@VERT/OUTWEST to Dumas Walker on Sat Feb 13 10:53:19 2021
    Re: Re: Election
    By: Dumas Walker to MRO on Sun Dec 06 2020 09:57 am

    I get touchy if they always criticise my country but never
    criticise, or even discuss, their own, or seem overly obsessed
    with my country's leadership. Otherwise, I feel they are free to
    their opinion. :)

    if people from other countries criticize the usa it's usually because
    of their edia is so sensationalized. they've been that way a lot
    longer than our media as been.

    Yes, or they've been watching our media. It would be nice if the media would quit trying to compete with the cable news and the internet and just present the news for what it is and not the entertainment value.

    Was Walter Cronkite on of the last honest News anchors?
    These day's we have cockroaches like Chris Cuomo, Don Lemon, Wolf Blitzer spreading the daily gossip.

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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to DENN on Sun Feb 14 09:36:00 2021
    Was Walter Cronkite on of the last honest News anchors?

    Maybe not *the* last, but certainly a member of the last group.

    These day's we have cockroaches like Chris Cuomo, Don Lemon, Wolf Blitzer spreading the daily gossip.

    Those are not news men, especially the first two. Pot stirrers at best.


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  • From Gamgee@VERT/PALANT to Dumas Walker on Sun Feb 14 14:02:00 2021
    Dumas Walker wrote to DENN <=-

    Was Walter Cronkite on of the last honest News anchors?

    Maybe not *the* last, but certainly a member of the last group.

    Agreed.

    These day's we have cockroaches like Chris Cuomo, Don Lemon, Wolf Blitzer spreading the daily gossip.

    Those are not news men, especially the first two. Pot stirrers
    at best.

    Lemon is an outright racist, and doesn't even really try to hide it.
    CNN doesn't seem to care, because he's carrying the Dem agenda forward
    as he's been trained to do.

    The other two are just stupid regurgitators of what they're told to say.



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  • From Denn@VERT/OUTWEST to Dumas Walker on Sun Feb 14 17:58:06 2021
    Re: Re: Election
    By: Dumas Walker to DENN on Sun Feb 14 2021 09:36 am

    Was Walter Cronkite on of the last honest News anchors?

    Maybe not *the* last, but certainly a member of the last group.

    These day's we have cockroaches like Chris Cuomo, Don Lemon, Wolf
    Blitzer spreading the daily gossip.

    Those are not news men, especially the first two. Pot stirrers at best.

    I equate them to the Enquirer and others.
    My ex wife used to buy those and she thought they were true stories, lol

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Denn on Sun Feb 14 21:58:25 2021
    Re: Re: Election
    By: Denn to Dumas Walker on Sun Feb 14 2021 05:58 pm


    Those are not news men, especially the first two. Pot stirrers at best.

    I equate them to the Enquirer and others.
    My ex wife used to buy those and she thought they were true stories, lol

    a lot of them ARE true stories. rich people are rich but their friends arent rich usually. there's jealousy. so they will sell some secrets and baby pics for 5 grand. jennifer ho-pez sold her own baby pics for 6 mil
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